Top 4 Injection Therapy Nutrients : The Renegade Health Show Episode #922

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After I sat down with Dr. J. E. Williams to discuss injection therapy, I asked him what his top 3-4 injection nutrients were.

He gladly was willing to share with me — and now with you.

Here’s where you can see some of the most commonly used injections in his practice.

Check it out (my comments follow in writing)…

Your question of the day: Do you like needles? Have you used any of these injectable nutrients? Do you use B12 Patches?

Click here, scroll down to the bottom of the page and leave your comments now!

My thoughts…

This video is a show-and-tell of sorts, so it’s hard for me to comment on it…

Dr. Williams talks about B12, D3, Traumeel, and a few others, so it’s worth the watch.

Two things I do want to talk about is a comment from Natalie, a reader, yesterday:

“Just had my first B12 injection yesterday. I couldn’t agree more on the usefulness of injections, especially with B12. People with inadequate hydrochloric acid, lack of intrinsic factor and other digestive diseases are unable to absorb B12 properly and can benefit from the injection. Increasing dietary intake or vitamin supplements won’t help in the case of malabsorption. Thanks for posting on this topic!”

Natalie is 100% right. If you can’t absorb it, you need to get it from somewhere. There are a few options for you… sublingual, patches and injections. Usually the injection is a good start to boost levels quickly, then you can maintain with the other options.

The relative cost of injections is low as well. They’re not cheap, but they’re not too expensive as well. I’ve read some of you even have had a prescription written from your doctor so you can inject them yourself. It’s my understanding in Australia that you can buy B12 over the counter to be injected as well.

I think injection therapy, while it’s been around for a long time, will come more to the forefront in the next 10 years. To date, injection therapy has been limited to certain nutrients, hormones, and drugs — but from my conversations with Dr. Williams, as long as a substance can stay in solution and it’s sterile, it can be injected as medicine. It’s exiting to think about this particularly for some people who like Natalie says cannot absorb the nutrients they’re putting into their body.

The theory of eating clean works until you put all that good food into a body that is functioning inefficiently. Then you end up with a body that can’t process the good food and is just as worse off as it was before — this is particularly evident in digestive issues.

So injecting these specific nutrients into the blood or muscle tissue could be very effective.

(Please note, do not inject anything without a doctor or specific instructions on how to do it from one.)

Another question…

“So you are saying the B12 patches didn’t work for you?”

Nope, not at all.

That’s reading a little too deep into the situation.

B12 patches do work. They work with about the same efficacy as the sublingual B12 supplements. Dr. Williams confirmed that with me when I was visiting.

The reason my B12 was a little low is not an issue of patches not working, it’s an issue of me not applying the patches regularly, LOL!

This was the same with my D3.

I don’t like the idea of taking supplements for anything, but I’ve come to the conclusion that I need to. I’ve seen my levels of these nutrients drop when I’ve decided not to take the supplements and see what happens. So as much as I’d like to be a naturalist to some degree, I recognize that my B12 and D3 run low and I need to supplement.

So for me it’s a compliance issue, not an issue of what works and what doesn’t.

As a further aside…

Please be careful not to read too far into what’s written or presented here on the blog or anywhere else. I do my best to be very careful with my words as do many well respected writers.

If B12 patches didn’t work, I’d tell you (and I wouldn’t sell them in our store!)

If something works, I will use the words “it works.” If it may work, I use the words “may work.” I’ve learned over time that this precision is very important when sharing a message and was one of the biggest reasons I went back to writing after doing 3 years of video.

There are 10’s of thousands of people who read this blog on a regular basis and it’s my responsibility to present the information I’ve discovered with accuracy and the written word is much more specific.

So rest assured, if I say it in a specific way, (in almost all cases) I’ve said it in the exact way I wanted to.

(Of course, sometimes I mess up, like any one else does!)

Your question of the day: Do you like needles? Have you used any of these injectable nutrients? Do you use B12 Patches?

Live Awesome!

Kevin Gianni

Kevin Gianni is a health author, activist and blogger. He started seriously researching personal and preventative natural health therapies in 2002 when he was struck with the reality that cancer ran deep in his family and if he didn’t change the way he was living — he might go down that same path. Since then, he’s written and edited 6 books on the subject of natural health, diet and fitness. During this time, he’s constantly been humbled by what experts claim they know and what actually is true. This has led him to experiment with many diets and protocols — including vegan, raw food, fasting, medical treatments and more — to find out what is myth and what really works in the real world.

Kevin has also traveled around the world searching for the best protocols, foods, medicines and clinics around and bringing them to the readers of his blog — which is one of the most widely read natural health blogs in the world with hundreds of thousands of visitors a month from over 150 countries around the world.


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  1. Gen says:

    No, I definitely do not like needles and avoid them as much as possible. When younger,even as a baby, I used to faint when receiving an injection — those memories are still with me. Although I don’t pass out now, I still get queasy. I haven’t used patches because doc said my levels are fine. Not a vegetarian.

    Great topic.

  2. Janice says:

    Hi Kevin,
    Yes, I do the B12 patches. And since I began using them well over a year now, my mother & daughter wear them as well. They work for me!
    I have no phobia about needles but it has to be a necessity!LOL! I perfer the patches over oral supplimentation. Not having to pass through the intestinal system and all that. Besides, I swallow enough supplimemts.Hi to AnnMarie and Johnny 5!

  3. Audrey Hughes says:

    when are you going to get your Sacha Inchil oil back in. you have been out of it forever. Please

    • Kevin Gianni Kevin Gianni says:

      Audrey, right now Sachi Inchi oil — of good quality — is very hard to find. We’ve been lucky and finally got a batch that is up to our standards. It will be back in stock in 2-3 weeks!


  4. Liz says:

    How do you KNOW if your problem is not just a deficiency but malabsorption?

  5. Wendi says:

    Wow great info. I’ve watched and learned alot on B12 recently but he added even more information to what I had recently learned. I also didn’t know it took so long to get your D3 levels up.

  6. Kami says:

    I’ve had a b-12 shot and didn’t like it for 2 reasons: 1) my arm hurt well after the injection. 2) it was the cyanocobalamin form with which I don’t philosophically agree.
    I wanted to ‘feel’ the difference in energy levels between the patch and the shot, but I didn’t feel any differences. My b-12 was low but only from a functional medicine perspective. Since having the shot I now only use the patch & I can feel a difference in my energy level if I’ve not been compliant with applying the patch after a week or so. SO THANKFUL for Kevin & Ann writing about and distributing the patch <3 bliss you guys!

  7. cindi says:

    i have never taken any of those except B12 and D3 in pill form…. i want to try the patches for B12 and i want to try some of the others he mentioned for arthritis …. it sounds good… ty for sharing this with us….
    smiles, me

  8. Jane says:

    When I grow up in Asia, injection of B vitamin was pretty “normal”. My Dad got the injection of B for 3mo(1x/wk). He cured the muscle/joint pain in his left arm. I used B injection once when I was 12 yr. old. (for lower back muscle soreness)

    Now, unless necessary, I’ll avoid the shots. I take D pills everyday, my D is excellent.

    Thanks for sharing; and always enjoy your topics!

  9. ani says:

    I have never had a b 12 deficiency and I do all raw food.

    However, we buy and consume raw milk cheese, make our own fermented food WITHOUT using a purchased culture. Very easy to do.

    If you consume enough fermented food, you will have the bacteria necessary in your insides to get enough B 12.

    Beets, cabbage, carrots, bell peppers, apples (added to the veggies) can all be fermented. You can also add a bit of fresh ginger, onion or garlic to taste.

    I have never had a B 12 shortage.

    RE TOOTHsoap……. tried it once and it made me very ill…. so I just use my Braun brush with water….. then I swish a teaspoon of sesame seed oil in my mouth very good, spit it out in the trash and that is how I keep my mouth ok….. the oil is good at drawing out bacteria and killing it. Plus by leaving a bit of oil on the teeth and not rinsing it off with water, the killing continues for a bit longer. There were three cavities that had started turning black, and now that black is gone so I have upped my intake to 1 full cup of almond milk a day as it has nutrients that I need for my tooth enamel.

  10. One for All says:

    I did the B12 Injections – BIG MISTAKE! Please be careful with injections as you do NOT know what they are mixed with.. what is the ACTUAL ingredients in the solution? And you need a carrier to keep it liquid and in solution format I had a HUGE REACTION to that B12 injection.. felt like death for 3 days before my body came back into balance. PLEASE BE CAREFUL with injections. Some are not as pure – even from a doctors office as you might think.

    I take the sublingual B12 and am waiting for my B12 patches to come in.

    You want the METHYLCOBALAMINE B12 and NOT the CYANCOBALAMINE – that is the wrong one to take. The latter does not absorb into the body?

    Vit D3 … everyone should take this daily.

    Just sharing.

    PEACE and to your optimum health.

  11. laura says:

    I use traumeel in cream for everything! : Mosquito bites, back ache, period cramps, being nervious and feeling a “funny belly”, burns, etc.
    I will try the injections 🙂

  12. Ed says:

    Kevin and Annmarie,years ago I found your show and thought that you were hippie type folks putting a show out.I liked the fact that Kev addmitted to all my weakness’ssssss. But when I lost you was when I thought you where just putting a show out. Now that the show is not a constant and your focus is narrowed, I can’t thank you enough.

  13. Don’t mind needles at all – not a fan of gettin them in my gums tho 😛
    I’ve ordered the B12 patches and I’m eager to try them out! Hopefully they’ll cure my fatigue 😀

  14. Christina says:

    I’ve done b12 injections prescribed by my Dr for issues w/ my nervous system. I’ve had sypmtoms of MS for 8 yrs now, so she thought that would help even though my B12 levels were normal. It gave me a bit more energy, but at the time it didnt help w/ the nerve pain or optic neuritis. But I am thinking about trying my vegitarian daughter on some B12 patches because she’s starting to complain about peripheral neuropathy type symptoms.

  15. Velda says:

    Great information, Kevin. I am glad that you are still doing some videos. I really like the videos. I have your book “cultured” and I have been thinking about fermenting foods. Then it dawned on me, that I can begin right now by making yogurt and kifer. Putting one of those in my shakes daily would go a long way in making the gut healthy. Anyway, I take a Raw B Complex from Vitamin Code. I used t take a sublinqual, but perhaps someday I’ll try the patches. I’m not crazy about the needle, but over the past few years I’ve had to get a blood test every six months (at first it was every 3 months), so I’ve gotten pretty used to a needle – although the “stuff” being injected can sometimes sting or burn more than the needle. Anyway, I would rather avoid it if I can. You are trusting that the needle has no bacteria on it, or that the product going into your body has not harmful ingredients. This is something you have no control over, and I think there are other things many people can do. Just my own personal preference.

    Thanks again, Kevin. As usual, wonderful information. Nice seeing you in the videos.

  16. maca says:

    I don’t like needles at all, but I still get regular blood tests and sometimes nutrient injections. A few minutes discomfort is well worth it compared to the benefits.

  17. ken says:

    I would caution to be careful, my wife had underactive thyroid and they changed her thyroid medicine upping the doseage.Then told her to come back in 2 weeks and she would get the first of 3 B12 shots.So she did and they said to her to come back in about 3 daugther tried to tell my wife something was not right as my wife just got sicker more anxious and lost alot of weight very quickly.the injection had brought her up but the doctors had not reajusted the thyroid medicine so they pushed her over into hyperthyroid.My daughter realised this and begged her mother to go back but wife is of the old school thinking the doctors know best.Well the doc got a shock when my wife did turn up , did not admit to what had happened just said she was in a bad way and she needed her thyroid medicine lowered and did not need any more B12 be careful !

  18. RobG says:

    If you are not absorbing nutrients, fix your gut. Read Breaking the Vicious Cycle by Gottschall

  19. Avril says:

    Again, I understand the point of Vit C and hydrogen peroxyne injections but not for D3 and B12 injections. You can get these two vitamins orally with excellent results.

  20. Gail says:

    B12 injections contain aluminum, see warning label with prescription.

  21. Julia says:

    I have some significant malabsorption issues going on but I would not do the B12 shots. I’ve been doing sublingual B12 and just ordered some patches. I want to know the full list of ingredients in the B12 shots. As when I first started researching vaccines, I started with the list of ingredients. Makes sense to read the label of anything you’re putting into your body, especially injecting directly into the circulatory system.

    When you look at the ingredients of 99% of the B12 supplements in the store they are all full of synthetic junk and preservatives, colorings, and flavorings, fillers, etc. I want to know the full list of ingredients in the B12 shots.

    Even with the B12 patches I don’t like the idea of putting an adhesive on the skin, as your body will absorb the toxic synthetic adhesive itself as well, but perhaps it’s the lesser of evils.

    Long term, of course, the goal is to resolve the malabsorption issues and get all necessary nutrients from diet and supplement only occassionally as necessary and then all the nutrients can work synergistically in the body in the proper proportions needed, without having to blast the body artificially with excessive amounts of any particular nutrient which may disrupt the synergistic relationship of others in the body.

  22. Alicia says:

    Hi Kevin! Funny, my husband just had a B-12 injection today because of a sciatica. He was in a lot of pain and B-12 is very good for that type of thing. In our country, Venezuela, you can buy B-12 injections over the counter, and last year at my local pharmacy, one of the doctors recommended something even better. It’s called DECALENTERMINA. (Deca is greek for ten), so this product has B-12 and 10 more nutrients! and yes, I’m terrified of needles!

  23. Carie says:

    I sure wish more people took what they write in their websites more seriously. Here you are talking about the importance of the written word…and, frankly, you are not a good writer. You cannot use “as well” at the end of any more than ONE sentence – preferably per article, but certainly at least per paragraph.

    In addition, you don’t say “just as worse off”, you say “just as bad off”. You CAN say, I was worse off THAN I was before, but its a case of worse than/better than. You have to have the THAN in there or its sounds like someone who doesn’t really understand English.

    In short, I apologize; I’m not really trying to be insulting. However, unedited articles on the net make me feel a little insulted myself. I wanted to hear what you had to say, but all that got through was the sound of the fingernails down the chalkboard.

    Please proof read before you publish!

    • Kevin Gianni Kevin Gianni says:

      Thanks for the grammer lesson, Carie. Their rules that are meant to be followed and one’s that are meant to be broken as well. 😉


      P.S. If your commenting on proof reading, you may want to proof you’re comments as well! LOL 🙂

      (All mistakes intentional here.)

  24. Kelly says:

    My husband is fighting multiple Myeloma cancer. We both have changed our diets and are doing what the medical world would consider CRAZY! We are not afraid of needles, my husband has worn the b12 patches and had injectable b12. Very interesting video. Great topic, would love to learn more. We are searching for someone to help us to learn what to do next. To find out what all is out there that we just odn’t know about.

  25. Rocio says:

    Dr. Williams which form of D3 do you recommend? fish source or not fish source. thank you.

  26. Rocio says:

    “Freedom from the bondage of legalism”…good book to read. Grateful to be free today. To Christian friends, there is a song I love….” Holding Nothing Back” by Jesus’ Culture..Love it! Thank you Dr. Williams and Kevin and Ann Marie. Thank you.

  27. Tammy says:

    @ Carie. Fortunately we are all free to voice our opinions here. I really like Kevin’s writing style (flaws and all) because it sounds just the way he talks. I can “hear” his voice while reading what he has to say. It’s like the way a friend would talk to me. I’m not here looking for perfect grammar, punctuation or writing from someone who’s majored in English. I’m here to appreciatively glean information from the vast amounts of careful research Kevin does in our behalf. I think you missed the point he was making when he said, “I do my best to be very careful with my words as do many well respected writers”. From the context it is easy to see he was talking about being responsible with the statements he makes in his posts concerning his experiences, views, and his conclusions about a given topic, NOT about proper grammar, etc. So many of us who come here are facing very serious health issues (many debilitating or even life threatening), and concerns over things like commas, proper word order or usage are quite petty and extremely insignificant.

  28. Aime says:

    AMEN Tammy on Kevin’s gramatic errors that don’t matter a bit when he’s presenting very important information for the health & wellness of his readers. Keep writing & sharing information that is truly life changing & very informative.

    Question I have for you Kevin is about the Paleo Diet. Some very healthy friends have become Paleo Diet people & it’s quite shocking & upsetting as many look to them for health advice. I read the book so I understand the premise & do agree with the avoidance of processed foods, HFCS, MSG, Sugar & dairy but don’t necessarily agree with the avoidance of all grains (good ones included) & the consumption of “lean high quality grass fed/natural” meats. Would love to get your input on it.

  29. Dottie says:

    I don’t know about others but my experience with the Vit B patches within 2 days i noticed my eyes were red , bloodshot. My eyes had never been like this before. I stopped the Vit B patches and it cleared up.
    So after clearing up I tried another VitB patch within 2 days my eyes were bloodshoot and red. I stopped the B12 patches. It cleared up. A month later I thought could i be allergic to something in this B12 patch so I decided to try again. LOL within 2 days my eyes were totally red. I stopped. Wonder if anyone else has had this reaction to the Vit B patches.

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