Should You Listen to a Mean Health Expert? : Exclusive Renegade Health Q & A

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Look, I don’t expect too see all the health experts at a big old love-in, but I do expect manners…

As you know, I love answering your questions…

We get tons of them and sometimes it seems like I’ll never get to all of them. Usually, to help curb the influx of them, I answer a bunch at a time, but today, I got a little carried away with this one.

It’s about how to deal with health experts that are mean to readers and other health experts…

Hi Kevin,
I wanted your opinion on [NAME REMOVED] website. He seems so savage on lots of supplements yet he sells many. He is savage to so many people too one being Mercola and recently Suzanne Somers. He suggests to fast 1 full day a week. If you dont know of him read some of his articles. Appreciate you knowlege on his comments thanks Helen

Hey Helen, thanks for writing in!

I’m familiar with his website, but have never purchased or tried his products. So I’m not going to comment on his product line — it may be fantastic or it may be garbage. No idea.

What I can comment on is this…

Anyone who is exceedingly mean about health — to readers, other experts or you — isn’t worth listening to.

Here’s why, there’s likely someone just as knowledgeable and nicer out there where you can get your information. The Internet is a big place and there are so many people to learn from. My guess is there’s someone just as qualified — or more so — that will give you what you need without the added nasty.

Here’s a slightly different but slightly similar personal example of what I’m talking about…

When we lived in Connecticut, there was a Mediterranean restaurant a few exits down the highway that was very popular. It had been there for decades. The food was good and Ann and I would go from time to time.

The only problem with the place was that the owner was a miserable man. He never smiled. He never said hello. He made you uncomfortable when you were ordering food.

He was mean too.

I remember one time walking in to the deli section of the place to hear him screaming in the back at his chefs. The whole picture — painted on one canvas — was not pretty.

After going to this place for a few years, another Mediterranean place opened up about 20 minutes further away. We had heard about how good it was and we decided to go there for lunch.

As we walked into the door, I told Annmarie I hoped the owners weren’t as mean as they are at the other place — it’s amazing at how the other man had left such an impression on me that I was scared of going into any Mediterranean restaurant because I was afraid I might get yelled at.

At the counter, we were welcomed by a large, smiling Lebanese man with a booming voice. He asked what we wanted and gave us a taste of the tabbouleh and hummus without us even asking. He was friendly, personable and made our day with a few jokes he told on the fly as he was gathering up our order and running the register.

After our meal — which was just as good as the other place — we thanked him and he gave us a coupon for our next visit.

We were converted.

Our experience with this owner was a complete 180 degrees from what we experienced at the restaurant we usually went to and since then, we’ve never returned to the other place — even though this one is 20 minutes further away.

We had found a place just as good, but minus the mean.

My lesson was that I didn’t need to put up with a crappy attitude and service just to get good food. I had a choice.

When it comes to your health, it’s the same way. You don’t need to listen to someone who criticizes others or gets nasty just to prove a point.

Both owners in my story had similar quality food, one just happened to be able to make it 1000 times more enjoyable on an energetic level.

So what I’m saying to you is that you can find equal or better experts if you search around a little.

How balanced can they be anyway?

I know this may sound strange, but I’ve learned from countless encounters with mean health experts that they’re generally either emotionally or physically unbalanced — not just mean people. Again, in general, these are not people you want to associate with until they work out their own issues.

It doesn’t necessarily make them bad people, it just is a cue to stay away for a while and see if they lighten up.

I’m pretty sure Mr. Mean from Mediterranean restaurant #1 in my story above had some deep underlying emotional issues, and probably some physical ones too. The more I thought about that, the more I was glad I didn’t eat any food made in his kitchen.

In the health space, you probably don’t want to take advice from them either. This isn’t to say that they don’t have good advice. They might.

My premise here is that chances are there is someone else that you can learn the same things from without the additional baggage.

Unbalanced people knock you off balance and when you’re trying to figure out your best protocol for health, you have enough on your plate than to have to deal with someone who doesn’t play nice.

So, in this case, I’d unsubscribe to his messages and move on. There are a lot of great places you can get good information that don’t have the same underlying anger as this guy.

I can also comment on this…

Attacking health experts is a thing of the past.

I get furious thinking about how much change we could make if we all got together to find a common issue to support, instead of arguing over how many bananas you can put into a smoothie. It’s childish.

Leave Mercola alone.

Leave Suzanne Somers alone also.

These two individuals have brought issues and topics to the attention of many more people than this man has ever reached. While it is OK to disagree, it’s also ridiculous to knock someone who’s a steward for the cause — in this case natural health — the same field as Mr. Expert here.

When we were actively speaking to the raw food community, it was inevitable that every other talk or someone asked what I thought of David Wolfe — or that expert so-and-so said what David says is wrong.

I think they were waiting for me to discredit some of his ideas, or something because they never seemed happy with my response.

It was simple…

“Leave David alone, and tell expert so-and-so the same. The raw food space is small and people disagree, but chances — maybe 50-75% are the reason people heard about raw food (and eventually your expert who is bashing him) is through either David Wolfe or Victoria Boutenko. Their reach has been fantastic and they have changed the lives of so many people. This is their ultimate skill, so appreciate it and move on. Leave him alone, find out what works for you and give up the gossip and in-fighting.”

Honestly, that was a little more eloquent than I probably stated it in person, but it is the only way to bring a community together — not divide it into separate, unnecessary factions.

Finally, is fasting one day a week ok?

Sure, if you’re the type of person who responds well to this, do it!

Fasting can help your body reset so that it is less toxic and can be more efficient at healing. What’s also effective is to eat a clean, organic, high raw diet. Dr. Alan Goldhamer shares that eating a healthy diet is one of the best ways to ensure that you don’t need to detoxify all the time. I’d have to agree with this.

Your body, if taken care of with good food, water and air, will do most of the detox work for you in a very gentle and non-painful manner. This is the ultimate, everyday way to detox, but of course there are exceptions.

Someone who is new to high raw eating may want to jumpstart their plan with a fast, or someone who feels like the environment around them has made them toxic may choose to take a break from eating as well. Lastly, someone who has excessive metals or other known toxins in the body may benefit from a more rigorous detoxification schedule as well.

There are a lot of considerations if you’re deciding to fast once or if you’re deciding on a one day fast every week, but ultimately listening to your body (in a gentle, non-judgmental way), getting a great (and nice) practitioner and looking at your blood test results (numbers aren’t nasty, they just are) will determine what protocol to pursue that is best for you.

Your question of the day: How do you deal with mean health experts? Do you like them? Dislike them? Learn from them too?

Live Awesome!

Kevin Gianni

Kevin Gianni is a health author, activist and blogger. He started seriously researching personal and preventative natural health therapies in 2002 when he was struck with the reality that cancer ran deep in his family and if he didn’t change the way he was living — he might go down that same path. Since then, he’s written and edited 6 books on the subject of natural health, diet and fitness. During this time, he’s constantly been humbled by what experts claim they know and what actually is true. This has led him to experiment with many diets and protocols — including vegan, raw food, fasting, medical treatments and more — to find out what is myth and what really works in the real world.

Kevin has also traveled around the world searching for the best protocols, foods, medicines and clinics around and bringing them to the readers of his blog — which is one of the most widely read natural health blogs in the world with hundreds of thousands of visitors a month from over 150 countries around the world.


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  1. Darlene says:

    Mean health experts or MEAN anybody, I turn off and away. There are too many good people to waste time and energy on negativity! NEXT…
    I love your website because you are so positive and open minded, not bashing, not rigid. Love your posts, even when I don’t 100% follow your recommendations. At least you are NICE about your information messages! Thank you for that!

  2. Julie says:

    I don’t know who was being referred to in this article, but I can think of one 80/10/10’er in particular that is so intimidating and abrasive with his opinions of others -(especially if their view of health is different than his)- that all his youtube videos spew this arrogance and negativity of some sort. Its not encouraging to try “his way” at all, as he seems unhealthy just in the way he acts.

    It makes me question whether his approach is valid and worth trying, when he obviously thrives on this shock value that comes from his rotten additude…

    Love you guys, and congrats to you on the baby!
    I’m due August 5th myself 🙂

  3. Mary Harris says:

    Hi Kevin and Annemarie, I wanted to thank you for the information you provide us.I appreciate your hard work and am grateful to have access to all this informative material. I especially appreciated the interview recently with Dr. Huggins. I have been wondering about what to do about root canals and now I know- thanks again for all your hard work!!!!

    Mary Harris

  4. Thomas says:

    I wouldn’t return to such a website. If they are so insecure about their business they have to knock another health-product marketer, leave them alone.

    I don’t equate “health expert” with supplement and imported-food sales people. Marketers are marketers. Business is business, and health expertise comes with years of study and experience. Healers heal, and businessmen sell products.

    Most ‘health product’ marketers today get a bit self-righteous in order to captivate their market and exploit it. After reading a couple of books without any real research to back up the claims of the books, they claim to be “health experts”. If they were, it would show in their physique and life-style. Hustlers have gotten wealthy throughout the ages by selling ‘magic elixirs’ to naive people.
    Buyer beware. 🙂

  5. cindi says:

    i agree… i have no time for mean… if they are talking to me in person… i will listen but never ever go back… i will not be mean back to them just be done with them and online…. oh heck no…. just click on to the next… and i totally agree with the others here that i love u guys…. u are real… u are doing all u can to help the rest of us and u admit it if u are not sure or if it mite not be the perfect thing for everyone… like 100% raw… u tried and it did not totally work for u and u were honest and shared that with us… i respect that… i think totally raw mite work for me but i have only done it a few short times so i may never know for sure but like u said if we all do what works for us and we are healthy then that is what is best for us… i just have to get to that point as i have been deficient in B12 and omega 3s for a very long time and did not know it so now i have health issues i never even though of having…. i am sure there are some other factors in play there too… but now i am trying to fix these things and i love hearing what u and some others have to say…. i think i did hear about David first as he is out there like u said… and that gets attention and pulls people in…. and then i heard of u… and thru u…. Tera…. Matt and Angela.. and so many more…Noni… Karen.. i could go on but i do pick and choose… Penni… ok ok i will stop with the names but i have come into contact with soooo many wonderful people all thru u….. so ty for all that u do… and yes mean people who want to bash others…. nope… i have no time for them….

  6. BarbaraL says:

    Very important that you do not eat the food of such a person. You in fact imbibe that person’s vibrations, thereby lowering your own and subjecting yourself to whatever that frequency brings. This is why I rarely eat out, maybe 2-3 times a year because I work hard to stay aware and expand my awareness. I don’t need some lost suffering soul dragging me down with them by eating their misery in the form of food.

  7. NuNativs says:

    Yes Kevin, good job, and I know we are definitely talking about DurianRider as the ultimate extreme example of the so called “mean health expert”. Unfortunately he has gathered his tribe around these tactics, and they are as mean or meaner than him.

    There is already far too much anger/hate/violence in the world, and arguing over diet/supplements etc. when the goal is better health, minimizing personal and collective suffering, and longevity is ludicrous…

    To DR and his followers, the ultimate aim and message is this, instead of attacking others, take that energy and build a new world and paradigm that is so attractive that people can’t help but follow your lead and example. For instance, start a mass permaculture/food-forest planting revolution to cover the globe with all manner of fruits and nuts that grow themselves year after year…(Watch the “Man who planted trees” for guidance).

    “You never change things by fighting the
    existing reality. To change something,
    build a new model that makes the existing
    model obsolete.”
    Buckminster Fuller

  8. Tom CHHC says:

    Mercola himself can be pretty mean sometimes. If you disagree with him or dare to question his products, you can be labeled as a “dissenter”, with a warning to comment readers to view what you say with extreme caution. This happened to me when I simply asked why maltodextrin was the #2 ingredient in one of his protein powders.

    I would disagree with you, Kevin. Rather than just “move on” to nicer websites, I actually delight in engaging “mean people” in conversation and making them try to justify their views rationally. And you never know, they might have a piece or two of information, or links to articles, that you didn’t know about, which could be of value.

    I try to consider all sides, all views, and if someone is “mean” I don’t let that detract from the helpful information they might have to offer.

  9. Brenda says:

    Mean health experts? I walk away. There are plenty of great health experts, who needs to have nasty when there are so many outstanding nice ones. Kevin, as usual, I enjoyed your article. 😀
    Thank you

  10. Margot says:

    My GP always considered me stupid, because I do a lot of things different than just taking pills, no matter what the side effects are.
    Allergy testing, asking for a urine test to see if I make or loose more bone, lifestyle changes, homeopathy. All rubbish and a waste of money, according to her. I had to fight her every step of the way. Finally the mere thought that one day I would depend on her when I would be really ill gave me the creeps. I dumped her and went to another GP, who is open for alternative things.
    To me there is no reason to stick with a health care provider that you can’t get along with.

  11. satori says:

    I just want to say that I love David Wolfe because he’s not mean. I’ve never been offended by listening to him.

  12. Em says:

    @Tom CHHC, I know of your experience with being sort-of ‘black-listed’ on the Mercola comments! I frequently read Mercola articles and comments – and am often amused(?) at how easy it is to be ‘discriminated’ against by his followers, even when bringing up legitimately researched points.

    Despite this, I think Mercola does an excellent job and is a great advocate for all of us, in many areas – although I disagree with his dietary advice as a result of my own decades of study and self-observation. His diet would no longer work for me at all – but he is consistent in living out his own truth – and that’s a good thing.

    I totally agree with your attitude of potentially finding use in everything, rather than just instantly labelling something and tossing it out. Pearls can be found anywhere…in many unexpected places:)

    @NuNativs, I completely understand your perspective on Durian Rider. He can come across as being quite caustic and judgmental.

    I think, though that Durian Rider performs an important service for all of us – for one thing, he holds up a mirror to all of us who feel in any way outraged by him. We all hold the shadow parts inside of us. We are none of us completely free of ‘mean’ – if that’s even the right word to use in the case of DR… So perhaps we would all do well to take note of our own attack mechanisms that rise up in our hearts in response to another’s passion. (I say this all gently, btw)

    He also has a lot of valuable information, insights and experiences which he generously shares (as a lot of other less-confronting people do too, I admit) – and with total personal honesty – and with each individual, there is always a different take and slightly different information on offer.

    And he, like the rest of us is constantly evolving/changing/growing.

    Durian Rider’s apparent ‘mean’ is on show for a lot of people to be outraged by – but beneath that surface, it’s a different matter. I wonder how many of us actually have it the other way round…

    Just some thoughts…

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