Raw Milk: It’s Good for You, Right? : Exclusive Renegade Health Article

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So what is the deal with raw milk… All good? All Bad? Or somewhere in between…

I probably address raw milk about every 5-6 months, but today I feel like the time is right for another commentary on it…

In this article (Q & A), I will share my thoughts on raw milk as well as how to deal with back acne when it comes up unexpectedly.

Let’s get into it right now…

Hi Kevin, what is your opinion on Raw Milk? Thank you, Olga

Hey Olga, I’ve written and spoken about raw milk before in the past. Here and here and here.

My opinion — which has evolved a bit — is that many people cannot digest either lactose or the casein in any milk product — raw or not. On the other hand, some people can. This may be due to strong digestion, good flora, genetics or other factors I’m unaware of. So, ultimately, I don’t think cow’s milk — raw or not — is the best form of dairy if you choose to eat it.

Goat’s kefir was a fantastic tool for me to use to get my health back on the right track. I have a feeling it was a combination of the proteins, vitamin A, essential fats and microflora that helped — but I have no tangible data to support that.

I just know that the inclusion of this into my diet increased my energy, adjusted my hormones, raised my cholesterol and brought my blood work back closer to optimal.

So I think — based on my experience and that of others — is the best way to drink raw milk is to ferment it and turn it into kefir or yogurt. This way you will be able to get some of the nutrients provided in it as well as eliminate a good deal of the lactose and break down some of the casein (the bacteria do this.)

With that said, goat’s kefir was a transitional tool for me. While it helped eliminate some of the acne that I was getting on my back and face, I started to feel like I didn’t need it anymore and noticed that it gave me a distinct type of pimple on my cheeks.

I’ve stopped eating dairy since (maybe once every 4-6 months), but have included some local eggs and wild seafood into my diet with success. So, basically, I’m not opposed to fermented raw milk, but I’m not so hot on straight dairy. Lactose is lactose and you have to make sure your dairy has A-2 casein (a protein that is easier to absorb.)

Another other issue, these days in Northern California, some of the dairy is still registering with detectable levels of Cesium which is radioactive fallout from Japan. I know that sounds like stuff from a sci-fi movie and I’m not a fear-monger, but this is a real concern. Chances are if you live far away from Nor-Cal and are getting local dairy, this won’t be a problem.

Two more things…

Be careful of the advocates that say you can eat as much raw dairy as you want. Don’t get carried away with this. Be sensible to yourself, your health and our animal friends by taking a less is better approach.

And finally, there are studies that exist and do not support the consumption of dairy. But do keep in mind these studies do not include raw, pasture fed dairy animals. I find it hard to group all dairy into one large group like this. You wouldn’t call a factory farm raised piece of lettuce the same as an organically grown, local leaf, would you?

So the same applies to dairy.

Eat good, organically grown food, get your blood tested and make improvements from there. Don’t freak out about what the experts tell you because many of them can’t even read a blood test or figure out that sometimes certain things don’t work for everyone.

Your blood is your compass, so use it as best you can.

What about the breakouts on my back?

So my question is this, I still experience an occasional breakout here and there as well as on my back like you said you had a few times. Im still a strapping lad in my early 30s with an extremely healthy lifestyle. So its kind of a mystery to me. Im pretty well hydrated and ive also started consuming raw dairy from a local farm to help with healthy gut flora. (I know you’ve touched on that as well) its helped with general wellbeing and my strength in the gym. – Paul

Hey Paul, you strapping lad, back acne is not fun — believe me, I know from experience.

In the past, I had it in high school and this was likely related to two things:

1. My hormones.
2. My addiction to cheese.

I had a recurrence of back acne a few years ago that was directly related to my hormones and my diet experiments. This was strictly a hormone issue.

So, for your situation, I’d recommend two things. First, and least expensive, is to eliminate the dairy and see if that gets rid of it. If you’ve had the back acne before that — when you weren’t consuming dairy — then this may not apply. But if it started after, then you may have a culprit. A two week, dairy free diet should be sufficient to determine if this is a factor.

Secondly, I’d have your hormones and cholesterol checked. I’d specifically test your pregnenolone, your testosterone and your DHEA — and with your cholesterol, make sure you get an entire blood lipid profile that includes HDL, LDL and low density LDL as well. Any abnormality in these tests may explain the issues with your back — including low cholesterol.

Chances are you’re deficient in some of these markers and getting your hormones back in check as well as adding some good essential fatty acids into your diet (algae or marine animal source) should help you out.

Let us know if this helps, we sure hope it does!

Your question of the day: What do you think about raw milk? (Fire away!)

Live Awesome!
Kev

Kevin Gianni

Kevin Gianni is a health author, activist and blogger. He started seriously researching personal and preventative natural health therapies in 2002 when he was struck with the reality that cancer ran deep in his family and if he didn’t change the way he was living — he might go down that same path. Since then, he’s written and edited 6 books on the subject of natural health, diet and fitness. During this time, he’s constantly been humbled by what experts claim they know and what actually is true. This has led him to experiment with many diets and protocols — including vegan, raw food, fasting, medical treatments and more — to find out what is myth and what really works in the real world.

Kevin has also traveled around the world searching for the best protocols, foods, medicines and clinics around and bringing them to the readers of his blog RenegadeHealth.com — which is one of the most widely read natural health blogs in the world with hundreds of thousands of visitors a month from over 150 countries around the world.

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  1. I avoid processed dairy from the supermarkets but did try some raw milk the other week and it was delicious! I would definitely drink it on a regular basis if it was more readily available http://www.evolutionorganics.co.uk/Organic-India-Shatavari-60-caps/product

  2. carvacrol says:

    I avoid all milk as I just hate the taste of it. I think that’s my body’s way of saying it’s not good for me.

  3. Rene says:

    Kefir made me sick.

  4. Leo S. says:

    Here is an informative video on dairy products. There are four other videos on food and its production and relation to health which you might find of interest. If you are concerned about Type-1 Diabetes and its cause start at 17:30 of “Udderly Amazing.” Other illnesses are also discussed.

    http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/169/304-232K/

  5. Pam says:

    With Ann Marie being pregnant, does she drink milk for the calcium? If not, what is she consuming to be sure that the baby is getting enough calcium? I know there are other forms of calcium, but when providing nutrients for a child, much more calcium is probably needed. Thanks!

  6. Delores says:

    I raised my children on raw goats’ milk. All six are very healthy. I am allergic to cow’s milk and avoid it in all of its forms. Goats milk has done wonders for my body. I am 68 and have good bones and excellent skin. My mother hates milk and has had most of her joints replaced. Of course she would never try my goat’s milk but she does consume cow’s milk, cheese, ice cream etc. different genetics mean different things to people. Blanket statements on whole food usually don’t apply to all people. My hubby can not tolerate grains. That does not mean that it is bad for all people-just Germans like him!!! Eat what makes you feel good if it is raised correctly and it is quality food. I raise most of our food organically or I should say biologically. Biologically means that we balance the nutrition in the soil for optimum nutrition. We don’t have insect or disease problems and the flavor is exquisite! I got a gentleman in his 50’s to eat broccoli for the first time because it was so sweet and good. He drinks my goat milk too and has lost over 50 lb in 6 months by changing his diet to whole foods.

  7. Gen says:

    When I lived in Switzerland I used to buy raw milk and had no problems with it. In Canada or the US, I cannot tolerate dairy due to lactose intolerance. I have recently discovered an unpasteurized raw milk Gouda from Holland called Borenkaas that I can tolerate and it is so creamy and wonderful. I buy it at a Dutch grocery store.

  8. I get both raw cow’s and goat’s milk..I make yogurt and cheese from them…rarely drink it but did, however, make my own butter the other day. Boy, is that good! Since I don’t make a habit of using dairy everyday, I don’t have a problem with it.

  9. Suzanne says:

    A question for you, Kevin…what do you think of raw milk for toddlers, in place of pasteurized, homogenized milk? My 19 month old eats organic yogurt and full fat cheese (processed, not raw) but I’m concerned about her getting healthy fats for brain development. She doesn’t like fish, so that’s not an option for her. I haven’t been able too find raw milk to try her with, since it’s illegal to sell raw milk where we live and I don’t want to get a cow share if we don’t care for the taste. Anyway, I would love to get your thoughts on this.

  10. Michele says:

    As usual Kev, your thoughts are clear, concise and very helpful. Thank you so much for the balance you bring to your articles. i really appreciate it. I tend to eat the way you are as well. i feel very balanced and strong and i go with what my body needs. Some days i just want to have loads of veggies and just lighter foods so i go with it other days i want eggs or seafood or even some raw goat cheese and i immediately feel the strength and balance they bring to me. The bodies needs are always fluctuating. i think the body is wise and knows what it needs. It strives for health and balance if only we truly listen.

  11. Adam Testad says:

    Hawaii milk farmers use Boron to neutralize radioactivity contamination in the soil.

    http://hawaiihealthguide.com/healthtalk/display.htm?id=915&hhsid=9ea42c3eb9d93ab4faf7ca3cd98ee6d8

  12. Tobey says:

    I would really like to try Raw Milk or better yet…Raw Goat’s Milk. Problem is that I have never seen either being sold in my area.

    So where would one get the opportunity to get raw milk products in southeast usa?
    Thanks,
    Tobey

  13. Brianne says:

    I believe everyone is different. I do believe essential fats are critical for growing children. In our families experience, incorporating raw milk has helped to heal my children’s cavities. However, my husband cannot drink it. Me and my children thrive on it. Just listen to your body.

  14. sheri says:

    We have also lately been benefiting from raw goats milk, and yogurt made from it, I just googled our state in which we live, and raw goat’s milk, and I found the Colorado milk association, I called them, and they helped me find a local source of raw goat’s milk. He gets his tested,does everything according to standards, and on top of that delivers to our door. The internet can be useful to locate help in this area.

  15. Chris Wark says:

    Huge fan of raw milk. My wife and our two girls consume 4 gallons per week from a local farmer who milks her three cows by hand. I’ve even milked one of the does myself. Rule number one: Do not leave the milking pail under the cow for even a second or they will kick it over. Ask me how I know!

  16. Ellen marsh says:

    I have been drinking raw milk for 2 years and my grown sons drank it whenever they visited. I never gave it to my grandchildren because I didn’t want to take the risk of “bacteria” hurting them. Two months ago a 2 year old girl (a friend of the family) who lives 100 miles from here ended up on life support. The problem, raw milk. She will live, not sure if she will ever be the same. The farmer shut down, no one knows what happened, other people got sick. He was very careful, not negligent. I now get the raw milk and slow pasteurize it at home. I know this mother is sick over this. Her daughter has months of rehab, she is still in the hospital.

  17. Barbara says:

    There is a book that may help answer the many questions about
    what to eat and why. Why some of us thrive on high fat cheeses
    and other die from it!

    It is “The Metabolic Typing Diet” by William Wolcott and Trish Fahey
    Studies from Dr. Price back in good ole 1938, what’s old is new again!!
    Basically our nutritional needs are based on our heritage, where we come from (as they state). Why are (indigenous) Eskimos who eat a huge fat diet, free from all modern diseases? Indigenous people who eat all the foods we say are so bad for us… live longer, healthier lives. Then they dragged into our modern society and… yes they get all the health problems we battle.

    I think it’s a very interesting book, loads of insite.

  18. My own experience has been that raw milk keeps my once-severe allergies away. As long as I drink it, I seem to be symptom-free, and I can go as long as 6 months without it before those symptoms start gradually cropping up again. I don’t know if raw cheese would do the same thing. Raw kefir seemed to be ok. I only have so much room to ferment things, though, so I usually keep filmjolk and kombucha going, and possibly some relish or salsa and matsoni, and then I’m out of space. With three times the kitchen and yard space, I could be culturing all kinds of milk products from my own cows! 🙂

  19. Gaylene says:

    Just so you are aware Kevin. When you had all those antibiotics for Lymes disease, you destroyed a good portion of the bacteria in your gut permanently. Some of them never come back. You can’t go down to your local health food store and get the bacteria that are no longer there. Yes some repopulate but you will never have the same immune system. Once you did that, some foods that you might have been able to digest and assimilate was no longer possible. There are very few people in this country that have never had antibiotics, they are the only ones that have all the bacteria that they need.

  20. Maria says:

    To locate a source of raw milk, visit
    http://www.westonaprice.org There is a resource list for each state and cities within the state.

  21. Maria says:

    Direct link to locate raw milk anywhere in the world:
    http://www.realmilk.com

  22. Marge says:

    In response to #8, Ellen Marsh:
    I just don’t think it is worth the risk to drink raw milk. Many people have gotten sick and it is just not worth it. Why take the risk? Almond, rice, and hemp milks are delicious and NO RISK! We can get all the nutrients we need safely from a whole-food, plant-based diet.

  23. Mary says:

    Check out http://www.notmilk.com. Robert Cohen is very knowledgeable, articulate, entertaining and while he is biased, it is based on research. He gives both sides of the story. Today, for instance, he talked about the dairy industry’s switch from milk mustache ads to athletes recommending chocolate milk after workouts as better than sports drinks for replacing all the nutrients, etc. He agrees, but he, in the body of the email, explains the downside, the hormonal chaos that is wreaked by the addition of the IGF-1 in cow milk to the human body. This hormone, taken by athletes to improve their performance, gets them penalized by the governing bodies of their sport. But you can drink chocolate milk and it’s ok. Robert’s bottom line is: “Notmilk wholeheartedly concurs with both WebMD and
    Fitness Magazine. Growth hormones work, and function quite well to do what they were designed to do. The dairy industry conveniently omits “growth
    hormones” when explaining “What’s in it?” ”
    Check out notmilk.com.

  24. Here’s how I understand it. Everyone who is a mammal is born with lactase, the enzyme needed to digest lactose in milk. As we pass the age we should drink milk (of any kind), that enzyme disappears. If we continue to drink milk past the time we’re biologically designed to, some of us can develop what’s called “lactase persistence”. Our ability to digest lactose will persist beyond what it is biologically intended to if we continue drinking milk.

    And, as far as raw milk, I majored in microbiology and live in an area of dairy farms, many of them organic. I wouldn’t drink raw milk for any reason. Not even if you paid me. If you’ll notice, where the cow poops and where she gives milk are quite close. There are dozens of diseases and parasites that are spread by raw milk … including all sorts of intestinal parasites and forms of brain damaging meningitis. It’s not uncommon for people out here to get sick from raw milk.

    Also, when we say we don’t need to vaccinate our children because “good hygiene” helped reduce infectious disease, the “good hygiene” we’re talking about is, in large part, the pasteurization process. Tuberculosis especially spreads easily via raw milk.

    There’s no reason to drink milk beyond the age of weaning. We’re the only species who even tries it.

    Ellen Marsh, so sorry to hear about the little girl. That’s tragic. It does happen far more often than we’re told. Was it Q Fever (a meningitis commonly spread by raw milk)?

  25. Jan Van says:

    If the breakout on your back itches very badly you could have dermatitis herpetitormis caused by gluten and not milk.

  26. SarahB says:

    Your articles are always so sensible and well thought out, Kevin! I have found that the issue of “milk” being a good food lies on a spectrum as with anything (gluten, eggs, nightshade veggies, whatever). There will be a few people at the far ends of the spectrum who will either be able to tolerate all forms of milk or no form of milk whichever end of the spectrum they are at. Then there will be people who fit along the spectrum at defined points: raw milk but not pastuerized, goats milk but not cows, only fermented dairy, and so on. I find that blanket advice such as “everyone should stay off of all dairy” is generally not good advice, is most often given by someone who has an agenda, and can actually be cruel to someone who does not need to be off of dairy, and who actually thrives on it (such as the person from Switzerland where dairy is a part of the culture and they find they are healthy on it). However, it IS one of the foods that does have a high rate of intolerance in the population as a whole, so if people are having digestive issues, it is a good idea to investigate to see if dairy is a problem for you. One interesting thing: if one has leaky gut, one might also have a dairy intolerance because the tips of the villi in the small intestines are where the lacteals are that produce dairy digesting enzymes. So if your villi have atrophied due to the inflammation of leaky gut, you may have lost your ability to digest dairy well. Some of these people will find that when they heal their guts they regain their ability to digest diary.

  27. SarahB says:

    I guess I’ll add one more point: raw milk is a whole food while soy, nut and seed milks are not. This is not a bad thing (and I use plant-based milks a lot) but it is a consideration if you are a big milk drinker and you are substituting plant based milks for dairy. You will be getting a concentrated amount of the substances that come through in the milk and you will be not getting the substances that are left behind in the pulp. In the case of soy, for example, this can result in a significant amount of phyto-estrogens.

  28. Maggie says:

    In the Memphis area we buy from West Wind Farms. They also deliver to Northern Georgia and probably other states as well. http://www.westwindfarms.com There is also an awesome coop as well called http://www.bulknaturalfoods.com and they service an even larger area. They have a tab called “local foods” and that tells of all the local farmers in area and what they grow/provide. Our milk and eggs are delivered to a home just around the corner from our home. Our flour, oats, etc. are delivered to a host home about 4-5 miles from our home, but that only comes around every 2 or 3 months so it’s no trouble to go that far.

  29. zyxomma says:

    No milk for me, raw or otherwise. I didn’t get mother’s milk as an infant, and threw up all the cow’s milk formula they put in me. I was switched to soy formula, and did fine, but the ObGyn insisted I was not gaining weight fast enough (fat babies were in fashion in the fifties), so I was switched to goat’s milk formula, which I tolerated. My mother insisted on feeding me milk once I was weaned, despite my telling her it made me sick (I’m type A blood, we can’t stand it; mother was type AB and loved it). This fiasco should have culminated with a tonsillectomy at age 4 (caused by all the dairy!), but it didn’t. Teachers roamed the school cafeteria, insisting I drink “my” milk, and I spent months of the school year out sick; my young immune system was weakened by dairy. I’ve always hated all dairy products (yes, there are children who don’t like ice cream) except raw organic goat milk cheese (which I’d eat two or three times a year). There are other sources of probiotics, protein, and calcium. For me, dairy is acid-forming and phlegm-making. If you like it and can tolerate it, go ahead and eat it. I won’t be joining you. Health and peace.

  30. zyxomma says:

    SarahB, I understand your comment about soy milk, but how are seed and nut milks not a whole food? Many people don’t even strain their homemade nut milks, and those who do (at least in the raw food community) usually dehydrate the pulp to use as a flour substitute (whether it’s almond, Brazil nut, macadamia, sunflower, whatever) in other foods. Of course, I’m not talking about the pre-packaged stuff with loads of additives, I mean home made in the Vitamix using soaked organic nuts. Health and peace.

  31. Mary Kay says:

    Kevin, I wholeheartedly agree with you and the others…I believe no one should drink the facoty-farmed non-raw stuff but that some can and some can’t do raw milk. I have raw milk delivered to my door once-a-week as part of a herdshare co-op and one member had a dd with juvenile arthritis. I questioned her when she said she was giving her daughter the raw dairy and she said that all sources she read felt it would be good for her. It wasn’t. She also went off all gluten as well as off all dairy and her dd got TOTALLY better. She did this for a year and is now adding both back in small amounts. I think she may be able to do it again, but we’ll see.

    I give raw milk/homemade kefir/yogurt etc to my family, however I’m doing a non-dairy experiment myself. It’s tough cuz I love the stuff.

    I’m going off it for maybe three or four mos, then I want to do some blood sensitivity testing and incoporate kefir first, then yogurt etc and see what happens with my blood.

    Thanks again.

  32. Mary Kay says:

    Oops..”factory-farmed…”

  33. Antonio says:

    Your hormones ARE a symptom of your diet experiments. Also, if anything is being filtered through your skin it’s because your ‘filters’ are clogged (kidneys). So … look at ANYTHING that is sticky and gunky, not just dairy. Breads, sugars, and many other foods have these qualities.

  34. Terry says:

    I do enjoy a bit of raw goat’s milk and the yogurt and cheeze I make from it, I don’t get it much, which is alright, not a huge milk fan anyway.

    I have a question? If milk has cesium/radiation in it, then why don’t our veggies have it also and our water, etc. The dairy animals are consumming the veggies, alfalfa, water, etc. same as us. The radiation is everywhere on everything, if indeed it is in the milk then isn’t in everything???……just pondering……

  35. chris says:

    since I am on RAW VEGAN , I found quiting dairy was easy
    If we are not ment to eat meat, why would we eat another species milk ???

  36. I’ve tried raw milk and cheese in the past but ultimately my body just doesn’t agree too well with dairy, and I find I am better off without it.

  37. Jayne says:

    Why are we the only mammal species that weans our children and then intentionally turns around and drinks the mammary milk of another species? There is a reason why all mammals are weaned – to start eating solid food, not go back to drinking milk (especially from another species, unless they were abandoned/orphaned).

    There is a reason why humans do not tolerate/are lactose intolerant, etc. to bovine and other mammal milk – it is a “foreign substance” to our bodies, but not to baby bovines!; and why are we using/enslaving another species to drink/use their mammary milk – just because of tradition, and palate pleasure! Not because it is necessary and beneficial for us.

    All herbivores get their calcium from green plants, it is not inherently in their DNA/genes – we too can get it the same way, there are many other sources of calcium besides animal products; and fats can be obtained through flax, hemp, chia, walnuts, coconut, algae, blackcurrant, primrose, nuts, etc. oils.

  38. Nadine says:

    I have a casein allergy and lactose intolerance – so milk is always out of the question, plus I feel better overall without the dairy products. When I was vegetarian, I relied too heavily on dairy and gained weight, had bad skin and felt sluggish a lot. Within a few months of eliminating the dairy, I had dramatic improvement.
    I also think you run too high an unnecessary risk of bacterial infection from raw dairy and not too mention the use of cows can be very unconscious.
    RE the “eskimos” that other comments refer too – they lived very short lives and actually did have many markers of disease – if they lived longer they would have died from heart disease or cancer or parasites – there’s a great video series on YouTube that discusses the scientific studies done on the indigenous populations of northern Canada and the reality was they were not in perfect health, so I think it’s a bit of a fallacy to rely on their “natural” diet. Not to mention, they lived in a totally difference climate with a very high stress lifestyle, so their bodies had different nutritional needs than ours do now. Also, it is impossible to recreate a “natural” diet because the world is dramatically different than it was 100s of years ago – humans have affected everything on this planet. It’s not natural to use a computer or to drink water from a tap, but we do – humans have evolved, so can our diets.

  39. bryan says:

    I think that the fermentation is the key for maximizing the benefits of raw milk. It is a bummer when anybody gets harmed by ‘accidents’ in food. Especially when it happens to a small producer. That being said, as much as we are told how ‘dangerous’ raw milk can be, I would like to see the statistics of deaths and illness caused by raw dairy compared to OTC pain meds, acid reflux drugs or x-rays. I used to live in Nevada which is a no raw milk state, yet next door to California which raw milk is ok. I always thought it funny that a state where you can buy liquor 24/7 at a Walmart, legally engage with prostitutes and gamble makes raw milk illegal, while California which heavily regulates nearly everything allows raw milk. Hmmmmm….

  40. Richard says:

    Hi. A few years ago, had dairy cows, some sweet little Jerseys and drank so much raw creamy milk a blockage developed in my left lower leg artery. I have come to a general conclusion that milk is for fast growing individuals [infants] of the mammary kind -from humans to whales. Homemade yogurts, cheeses and even ice creams, sweetened with honey or fresh fruits are still great in moderation. I would rather consume nut milks now at 62, we have tons of peacans here in S. UT right now on the ground. Cashews, almonds [ripe in 1 mo], and dozens of others, esp. coconuts make my day. Thx Kevin for the great questions, Richard
    ps-A quick health tip – Just STOP eating so much artificial sugar with the cream of either cow or tree!

  41. Richard says:

    Hi Kevin, Thx 4 the great questions. I submitted a comment a few min ago, but it disappeared. What’s up?

  42. Maureen says:

    Milk creates mucous in my system, raw or not. My sinuses get clogged up and the circles under my eyes get dark. I can’t sleep well either because I can’t breath well. My mother gave it to me daily when I was a child and I was sickly as a result. The more I drank, the sicker I got. Since I stopped drinking milk and eating cheese (even eggs), I feel much better and the symptoms have subsided. I cheat now and then, but pay the price.

  43. Vanessa says:

    You don’t NEED to be able to digest lactose with raw milk, b/c enzymes already exist in the milk to digest these. These enzymes are destroyed when milk is pasteurized.

    Also-as for being “kind to our animal friends” by drinking less milk-hmm-yeah. I have a milk cow out in the pasture, who gives me close to 2 gallons, twice a day, no matter whether I’m drinking it all or not. I don’t “push” her or feed her hard to get it-I feed her well, and she is much loved. But choosing not to take all that milk she produces every day would cause her serious discomfort. So the reasoning that drinking less of it is being kind to her-is a little off.

    And for the “radioactive” scare-hmm-I wonder how much of the veggies we import from that region ALSO contain cesium from the fallout… If you think you are totally avoiding contamination by solely avoiding dairy-yeah, I don’t really think so!

    • Kevin Gianni Kevin Gianni says:

      Vanessa, you’re speaking from a place of not knowing. Please see the Nuclear Science Department from Berkeley, CA. They have tested vegetables as well and they do not show up with Cesium at all. 🙂

      Kev

  44. Ryan says:

    “Be sensible to…our animal friends by taking a less is better approach.”—I’m sorry Kevin, but if this how you feel, then maybe you should lay off the goat juice. Are you sensible because you only take a little bit? I don’t think so. How about being sensible with the frequent flier miles and seafood?

  45. Beli says:

    With regard to the #8 comment (Ellen Marsh), I found this article: http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2012/04/post-5/

    The child and other children and adults were infected from raw cow’s milk which came from a herd share in Oregon.

    I am tempted to try raw goat’s milk, but I don’t want to risk getting ill. I may just stick to organic raw cultured vegetables, tempeh and Almond Milk for a beverage.

  46. Elizabeth Williams says:

    I get raw milk from a farmer every week and make kefir with it for my mom and myself. I consume one smoothie a day with the kefir. Prior to this I was told by a doctor from tests she had me take that I am dairy intolerant. I have had no problems only answers to medical problems from drinking raw milk kefir.

  47. Julia says:

    I drink raw goat and raw camel milk – but only when it’s fermented properly. One source that ships nationally is http://www.camelmilkassociation.com/

    One very important point to make is that I ferment milk 24hrs minimum which effectively removes all lactose and casein as it gives the microflora enough time to consume it. I am on the SCD/GAPS diet and this is the only way to have milk on this therapeutic diet to heal the gut. But even if you’re not on this diet, if you think you have trouble digesting dairy, just try raw milks (start w/ goat) and ferment for at least 24hrs. If this is easy enough for most people with serious gut and brain disorders, I’m sure most of the general population could tolerate it if they wanted to. If you have allergies, you should consider doing the SCD/GAPS diet to help “heal and seal” your gut which can help cure allergies.

  48. Bruce Oates says:

    I was raised on and was a dairy farmer the first 36 years of my life.
    I drank raw milk, ate free range eggs and grass fed beef and whey fed pork nearly every day.
    Also farm grown vegetables we did not buy much from local supermarkets.
    It was hard work and the days I had off sick were very few, only accidents mainly.
    We raised three children in these conditions and they got very few colds, flu’s or sickness.
    All our immune systems are still very strong.
    I think the natural enzymes in natural foods are necessary to tolerate dairy and nuts etc.
    Now foods are processed, the enzymes & nutrients are killed off & more & more people are allergic to milk, nuts, wheat etc.
    When I visit a city within a few hours car fumes give me a head-ache & a tight feeling in my chest, so many times I hear people say this & that food is bad for them yet they smoke & drink excess toxic spirits & breathe pollution.
    We found cows, pigs & poultry would not breed properly if their nutrition was not carefully monitored.
    If you really are serious about your health get out of the cities & eat foods you can see produced from grass, insects & soil.

  49. Jenn says:

    I agree 100% you need to listen to your own body and go with what works for you. I switched to raw milk about 2 years ago that I get at local farmers market and my body does SOO much better on it. It has helped my GI tremendously, and at the moment is the only thing helping my stomach through having to take prednisone for a very bad allergic reaction to poison ivy(and no there were no natural options that worked). I lose weight on whole raw milk used in moderation, and can barely handle processed at all now(which is OK but scary what they serve to kids at school which is the only place I give in to milk).

    The farm I get mine from also has only Jersey cows, and I have found this also makes a difference to me vs. Holstein. Rice and nut milks kill my GI(raw or otherwise) so for some of us real milk IS what we need for optimum health. It has healed my gut several times.

  50. Velda says:

    I make my own kefir from raw, organic milk. I’ve never tried making it from goats milk, but, on the other hand, I’m not sure where I would even go to get raw goat’s milk. I’ll have to check it out and see about making some kefir with it.

    Thank you, Kevin, for a well, thought-out, informative article.

  51. joe says:

    cow milk fad babis have diaper rash du to yeast [candida] infetion.there is to much phosphorous in milk which draws calcium out of the bone cousing osteoporosis contrary to popular belif . Joe

  52. Marisa says:

    Well I grew up drinking conventional milk (1% or 2%) and never really liked it. I just used it to make my cereal wet. Since I’ve discovered a whole-foods diet 3 years ago I found an organic raw dairy farm near me in Philadelphia (“Your Family Cow”) and I can’t believe what I was missing. This milk is so nutrient dense in Spring it’s a pale yellow! I seem to do fine with it, and really enjoy the taste.

  53. Ira Edwards says:

    I grew up in rural Iowa long ago, and all the milk was raw and from grass-fed cows.
    If a cow put it’s foot in the bucket, we strained the milk through cheesecloth, and didn’t worry at all about diseaee. We had never heard of anyone getting sick from milk.
    Yes, milk can carry disease organisms, but ordinarily the natural biota in milk kills the pathogens. If the milk is allowed to sour, it tastes quite good, and is likely even safer.
    Pasteurized milk does not sour. It spoils and tastes terrible.
    Though it happens, infection from pasteurized milk is extremely rare. Infection is a little more likely from raw milk, but it is still very rare. Other sources of food poisoning are much more frequent, (1000 X) making milk, raw or pasteurized, one of the safest of foods.

  54. Jenni McNabb says:

    I always thought the lower your cholesterol, the better. So what is considered abnormally low? Mine is about 118, maybe lower now. Could this be a problem?

  55. Joan says:

    I agree with Jayne…and why take the risks with Raw Milk…it is still the product of another mammal…

  56. Annette Spendlove says:

    I haven’t tried raw milk, however, I have recently discovered Maleny organic milk and I have been having it on cereal and it is delicious (so different to the horrid supermarket ‘white water’) also it was from just up the hill from where I live, so minimum ‘food miles’ as well!

    Annette the Aussie, Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

  57. Graeme says:

    I’ll leave the milk for the young animals for which it’s intended.

  58. Edwina says:

    Personally, I’m a fan of dairy from grass-fed cows. I do like kefir, too, but I love Strauss half-and-half in my coffee (light roast organic) and their whole milk with the cream on top — both come in glass bottles. I don’t seem to have any problems with it. I can’t find raw milk locally. One thing I would not give up is dairy. Since I don’t have any problems resulting from it, luckily I don’t need to.

    As for acne or any similar skin blemishes, the only time I’ve ever gotten a blemish was when I was low on Vitamin A and I don’t mean just taking dry carotenes, but the oil form. Of course, it has also coincided with budgetary challenges, shall we say, which was affecting both my normal diet and my lack of supplements on a temporary basis. But, if I ever have a “pimple” or similar, I suddenly realize: Oh! I’ve been out of my Vitamin A for a while! I normally take 30,000 units per day (oil form), unless, on the rare occasions I’ve been ill, I will up it to 100,000 units taken with Vitamin C. Works great!

    By the way, I discovered the Vitamin A connection in my 20s. I am a few decades older than that now and it still holds true.

  59. Ani says:

    My husband’s experience was like a lot of peoples. We found and so have several other folks — cut out the murdered animal and stick with milk (raw) and raw organic milk cheese and lots of raw fruit and vegetables… 30% cooked, 70% raw has worked for a few hundred folks. And add all raw vegetable juices to diet also. For example, red sweet bell peppers are rich in vitamin C, vitamin A and silica (good for hair, skin, and nails, and connective tissue). Mix the raw milk and juice together. Within 20 minutes this is entering the blood stream.

    Murdered animals can take 3 hours to digest, plus they drain the enzymes from our bodies. Someone has to murder the animal before you can consume it. My research has shown that we have a limited amount of enzymes to help digest food in our body. Eat raw food before cooked food to get the enzymes into your body to help digest the cooked food.

    I have been doing things like this since 1970 and increased the amount of what I was doing raw in 1975. My husband and I have each had grand results from doing this. Plus I have a small garden every year. Only grow what is the most important and necessary for our special needs.

    For example, from a 3′ by 6′ spot in this years garden, harvested 75 lb. of carrots not counting the green top or long skinny root. Juiced them, got 12 quarts of juice, put up some carrots to use in soup or stew. Saved all the pulp and use that in smoothies. Grew 90% orange carrots and 30% black carrots. Fertilized with Gardens Alive products so that nothing would absorb the strontium 90 that peppered the US on the eve of 1/14/14. You say so what. Well, here is what is so what…… if you do not have enough calcium in your diet, your body will absorb and use the strontium as it mimicks calcium, but instead causes cancer and death plus prior to that, calcification of teeth and bones.

    Adelle Davis wrote about this back in 1964…….. looked it up in my mothers old book that I love that she recently left to me before she died at age 95. Her mind, brain was in grand shape…… doctors confirmed that at age 95 her brain was the size of a 28 year old.

    We also have some seaweed every day as that is the best source of iodine.

    Well enough for my rant for the day. Keep up the good work Kevin, we love your site.

  60. Don’t do well on milk myself (have incontinence issues when I do), but have recently been making milk yogurt for my hubbie to repopulate his gut flora. Would like to use goat milk, but am having trouble finding in CO. (Have tried using heavy cream to make yogurt and find that I can tolerate this. How do you figure that?)

    Our son, 22, has major acne breakouts when he eats eggs, even muffins or cookies made with eggs. And the acne takes forever to clear up.

  61. Linda says:

    Animal milk is for the baby animal, not for human consumption. Farmers take the babies away from the mother to get their milk and turn them into a milk producing ‘robot’, cruel and unnecessary. Farming is contributing to global warming. It costs far more to produce milk and meat then vegetables,fruit and nuts. Think about this and read up on the facts, you don’t need animal milk, stop the cruelty and stop contributing to global warming.

  62. Daphne says:

    I seem to be one of the lucky ones that have no issues at all with dairy, and if so then they are so small that I never noticed them in the 40 years I’m on this planet.
    I don’t drink lots of milk though, I pour a little bit of full fat organic cow’s milk in my 2 cups of coffee each day and besides that I eat some cheese and yoghurt every now and then and definitely some organic full fat butter each day.

    I went vegan for a little while, but my body didn’t like it. I heard so many great stories about this way of eating, but it didn’t work for me. For a female I’m very tall (6 feet exactly) and my build is rather slender. I started losing weight that I didn’t need and want to lose when going completely vegan and I constantly felt hungry and cold. Adding dairy back and a little bit of organic meat and fish solved the problem.

    I also could not notice a difference in mucus building, I have about 2 nose colds per year, whether I eat a completely plant based diet or an omnivore diet. And I never had skin trouble on both ways of eating. Lucky genes I guess 😉

    I hope to find a farm close to where I live that sells raw dairy, but so far no luck unfortunately.

    • Daphne,
      Getting one or two nose colds per year is just about half average. I have not suffered a nose cold, flu, or any related problem no matter how mild, in twelve years straight after truly altering my diet to ultra clean (100% raw whole plant-based), with full consideration to proper nutrition, macros, etc (not the typical woo-woo raw guru diet).

      I USED to suffer nose colds, sore throat, etc. at least one or two times per year, and even more. Plus lots of physical problems that I was brainwashed into thinking was “normal” and “part of life”.

      Getting rid of all dairy and all animal products was the first significant change I made back in 1985. Since then I have met literally hundreds of people and worked personally with almost as many to find out that dairy of any kind is one of the worst culprits for physical problems from acne to more serious life threatening chronic diseases.

      One important thing I learned was that it takes years not months to cleanse this crap out of your system, and that is when you are truly physically active at a high level of intensity.

      I am absolutely sure that if you followed a whole food, preferably raw plant based diet for at least three years, then you would see and feel a amazing improvement in your health. The actual physical benefits that you would experience are way too numerous to mention. But it would include no more suffering from even the most minor nose cold or any other kind.

      And I am not here looking for clients! I simply do not have the time. It is not complicated to truly clean the diet up and achieve fantastic health. (Health that is our normal birthright, but since there are so many products, lobbying and so much marketing going on, that we tend to forget that a simple diet is the best. But then how would all these gurus make money if they could not sell their wares?)

      The proof is in the pudding, or literally how you feel. Getting even one minor nose cold in ten years, I know now, means that one is NOT healthy.

  63. Sally says:

    I’ve had some similar health issues, and have explored the same things as Kevin ie fasting, all raw mainly fruit..etc. I will say, after a lifetime until my 30’s (I’m now 58) of a basic food addiction to the Standard American diet..having been bottle fed with God know’s what was in the formula, and ALOT of meat, eggs, white bread, potatoes and all the junk the came into vogue during my formative years……It’s been a journey to say the least. And after becoming a Colon Hydrotherapist, playing guineau pig with myself not to mention the fanaticism that can come with the seeking of the “right” or “perfect” diet…the one thing I think one can take to the bank is less is more (re:quantity of food), certainly cuing into what your body needs in the moment, season, climate etc.. And Kev, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that many gurus have not figured out that certain things don’t work for everyone!!!! Tropical fruits Do NOT work for me, with the exception on maybe watermelon..and that includes citrus. I’m of Irish/celtic and English Anglo Saxon ancestry. While fasting in Costa Rica with (ugh, God help me) D. Graham 8 years ago///prior to re feeding and during as well…bananas, even just the scent nauseated me. The ripe pineapple, though delicous felt like battery acid in my mouth and body.. I could go WAAAY off on a tangent around my way out thoughts around where I think we come from, how we got here, and consequently why it’s so difficult for us human animals to survive and thrive on this planet.. Lastly..I’ve dabbled with the use of Raw grass few milk with at least a high A-2 genetic..After the fast that almost killed me, definitely depleted what little mineral content my body maintained, I sent to California for some frozen raw milk and kefir..It was like being re born. The ticket is the dosage..And yes, it makes no sense, sensibly to drink the milk of a cow, no doubt. But my teeth and joints had rejuvenated to a level that I can’t deny…Sorry for the long post.

  64. Cleaning, shaving, and dressing Charles Manson up in a white tuxedo does not change who he is. Raw milk or pasteurized milk does not matter. It does not matter whether meat or fish is factory farmed, local, or organic. It is still animal flesh. Animal protein is the issue, not how “clean” or how “fresh” or “organic” a food is.

    Of course, if such small amounts (less than 5% of total calories per day) include any of these, then there will not be much of a health change, especially in those who are just starting to eat clean (less than three years of dedicated 100% raw whole plant-based vegan). But for the truly healthy and aware, then they can easily detect even tiny amounts of animal protein in their diet. Their athletic performance drops (it is highly noticeable at high levels, as any progressive exercise should be in order to get a training effect, and to actually increase the top four biomarkers such as muscle mass, strength, bone density and blood lipid improvement).

    For those who are simply health conscious and not really healthy yet, then good quality animal protein is a little better than poor quality animal protein. But this should only be treated as a transition of course.

  65. elizabeth says:

    Raw goat milk is better for health

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