An Unhealthy Raw Food Meal

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Five or six years ago, Annmarie and I were in Brooklyn helping some friends film a documentary. We spent the day walking around Prospect Park asking people questions and recording their reactions. In between, we all sat on a blanket in the sun eating fresh fruit and veggies. We probably laughed more than we worked, but we didn’t care. It was a good day.

As evening approached, we were getting hungry and it made sense that we all have dinner together before we headed back to Connecticut.

But there was a problem.

I was a raw foodist and wanted to go to one place — and one place only. It was in Manhattan and required all of us to caravan into the city, find parking and risk getting stuck in traffic. We had planned to go there earlier, but now everyone had changed their mind.

Unfortunately, for me (and them too), I decided that there was no other option. I needed raw food. I got agitated and angry when my suggestion was vetoed. The way I reacted, you may have thought eating anything else would kill me. Or at least, that I was an addict in withdrawal. I couldn’t believe they wouldn’t do this for me — for my dietary preferences.

Eventually, they decided to go somewhere else without us. I don’t think anyone wanted to be with me.

Ann and I drove into the city alone — in the traffic, paid too much for parking and ate alone at Pure Food and Wine. The meal was uninspiring and we ate mostly in silence. I don’t think she wanted to be with me either.

A few years later, Annmarie and I went into the city again. This time with another group of friends. Our plan, go to another raw food restaurant called Quintessence. It was a cold day. We were bundled up as we walked through the snow flurries.

When we got to the restaurant, we looked at the menu and everyone decided that it was too cold for salads and uncooked food.

This time, I suggested an Indian place around the block that I had been to years before when I lived on the Upper West Side and would come down and visit friends in the East Village.

There was little to no raw food at the place, but a few years had softened me up. I wasn’t as dogmatic as I used to be. I had chana masala and a salad — it probably wasn’t even organic — but everyone enjoyed the meal.

We left feeling full — from our meal, the conversation and the company. It was a good day, even better than the one just a few years before.

As we left, I thought about why I caused so much of a stink the first time around. I thought I was doing it for my health, but as we were driving back, I was pretty sure this second experience was healthier than the first.

Science may not be able to prove it without a doubt, but I’m pretty sure a few hours of stress, stubbornness, anxiety, neurosis, sitting in traffic, overpaying for parking, and unsettled eating overrides the health benefits of one raw food meal.

Your question of the day: Have you ever been in a situation like I was? What did you do?

Live Awesome!

P.S. If you are interested in healthy raw food meals, here’s a great place to find out what raw foodists eat and get some of their recipes!

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Kevin Gianni

Kevin Gianni is a health author, activist and blogger. He started seriously researching personal and preventative natural health therapies in 2002 when he was struck with the reality that cancer ran deep in his family and if he didn’t change the way he was living — he might go down that same path. Since then, he’s written and edited 6 books on the subject of natural health, diet and fitness. During this time, he’s constantly been humbled by what experts claim they know and what actually is true. This has led him to experiment with many diets and protocols — including vegan, raw food, fasting, medical treatments and more — to find out what is myth and what really works in the real world.

Kevin has also traveled around the world searching for the best protocols, foods, medicines and clinics around and bringing them to the readers of his blog — which is one of the most widely read natural health blogs in the world with hundreds of thousands of visitors a month from over 150 countries around the world.


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  1. sally says:

    Hi Kev

    Just wanted to say thank you for all your articles.I learn from them and enjoy them.

    I want you to know that I appreciate your efforts to keep us informed and your words of wisdom are just that “wise words” indeed.

    Keep up the good work…you make a difference in this world.

    with thanks
    Cape Town, South Africa

  2. Hi Kevin,
    I have been reading your postings and never felt compelled to respond until today! There is nothing more powerful than the mind! I have watched countless people improve their health by changing their mind. If your body is already on a ‘high alert’ state from a perceived sense of threat (when friends are combative or disagreeable), the food that is ingested is not welcomed into a loving environment and the organs that should absorb the sweetness of life from the food cannot do their jobs! It would be far better for your bodymind to grab a burger with love and laughter than to sit sadly in frustration or anger while dining raw! (P.S. – There is a great raw restaurant in Chelsea!!)
    In health, love and light~

  3. Hello Kevin

    Raw food was never about imposing a lifestyle/health choice on others. However, I do recognize this behaviour in hard core vegetarians/vegans, and put it down to (along with the rather common evangelical holier-than-thou attitude) to the profound rigidity of thinking that accompanies severe B12 deficiency. I eat mostly raw but need fish, so I don’t beat myself up about it, just go along with what my body tells me. However, when I go out with friends I either bring my own food or compromise. It does not happen that often and it’s not going to kill me either.

  4. Matthias says:

    Matthew 15:11
    “Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.”

  5. Mooncat says:

    Great post. I think one of the biggest, if not the biggest problem with the raw food diet is that it forces you to become very obsessive. If you don’t want to eat at home every single day for every single meal, if you don’t live in Manhattan or somewhere else where raw food restaurants abound (ie I live in Spain where there idea of raw food is cold meat) then you can pretty much say goodbye to any form of social life.

    If you have lots of friends that are raw, then it’s much easier. But the rest of the world is pretty slow to pick up on the ‘new’ trend of eating what humans were intended to eat.

    Of course one non-raw meal is not going to kill you (unless you’re really unlucky) but once you get the taste for cooked, processed, sugary salty badness, the danger is that you might end up back where you started. To be honest raw food can taste pretty bland and unsatisfying after a traditional Thai curry.

    I think it depends on your personality. If cooked food is so addictive, like so many of us believe, isn’t having one cooked meal like having one cigarette, or one beer?

    Love your site.


  6. Chuck says:

    Been there, done that-too many times. I have awoken since. Life is a balance (yin/yang) we try to balance one extreme with another until we find our point of equilibrium. Keep up the great work!

  7. Carmen says:

    Hi Kevin, the problem is not the raw food diet but your attitude at the time. I eat what I really want at home and have accepted that when I go out with friends or business I eat whatever raw I can with a smile. I enjoy haggling with the waiter to create the best raw salad I can at the time, and if I leave not fully satisfied, I know there is food at home. It wont kill you to go a bit hungry for an hour or two. This is just an excuse to eat cooked… There are many out there. Excuses I mean.

  8. Cirsten says:

    Hi Kevin,
    It’s strange, what triggers our deepest emotions. I remember a thing that happened to me about 6 or 7 years ago. It’s not about food though. At that time I lived in Amsterdam, but worked in an American company, where everything was decided by the management and the employees had just to do what they were told. I was working in a small team of 3 people within the company, and even so the work was quite demanding (for instance: amongst the three of us we pretty much covered every European language), we had a good team and felt that our work made sense. Unfortunately we had 2 bosses. One external and one internal, and those two barely ever talked to each other. Instead we had two sets of instructions at any given time.
    Long story short, one day one of my colleagues followed the one set of instructions, which was contradictory to the other set of instructions and he got caught doing so. He was called to the boss, who yelled at him and threatened to fire him!
    Okay, I am 55 years old, and in all my life I’ve maybe been really angry 2 or 3 times, but this made me angry, and it was totally unexpected. I got so angry, I went to our boss and told her, what I thought about the situation and that I was angry and probably was going to quit my job because of it, which I did the next day.
    I felt physically bad for days after this, really sick and almost feverish. And I wonder, how others, with a hotter temper than mine, feel, when they get angry. Does anger give the same physical reaction in everybody?

  9. Yvonne says:

    I love this story, and I am in total agreement with your conclusion. I eat a generally healthy organic diet, but I don’t eat a 100% raw diet, or even close (I live in Scotland – enough said.)

    Sometimes I’ve felt stressed about whether or not I’m feeding my family well enough, but I am certain how is as important as what.

    Years ago I read about a yogi who lived on nothing but several cups of black coffee a day, into which he dissolved 2 tablespoons of sugar. He was observed for days and had various tests and was healthy.

    A fellow Scot, David Hamilton, has done quite a bit of research into the mind-body connection, and he noticed that after he started eating more healthily at first he had more not less illnesses. He realised he felt guilty if he ate something “unhealthy,” whereas before he hadn’t.

    It’s a fine balance I guess. I really enjoyed this post.

  10. Jeff says:

    Hey Kev,

    This is a really great point and soooooo true for me as I have experienced some of the same “conditions” if you will. In my opinion, the second situation where you all went to the Indian place was much “healthier” for you and everyone involved. Stress and the fight or flight reaction is more acid forming and “unhealthy” (I know, I guess I am obsessed with quotation marks today) than eating a little cooked food with good company. If someone has to have raw food, it doesn’t sound like it’s just for health reasons any more, especially if it results in the person being cast out by his friends. The social connection and bond that comes with enjoying a meal with friends sounds like an incredibly gratifying and satisfying experience. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.

  11. Sylvia says:

    Enjoyed your story, and I think this saying often said by Oprah sums it up nicely:”Do you want to be right or do you want peace?”


  12. Eileen says:

    At times, I too have become too militant when it comes to finding healthy restaurants. I now try to remember the French Paradox and enjoy the company and the relaxed time eating out and focus less on getting the “perfect meal.” If we eat healthy most of the time, a non-organic meal won’t kill us. But losing friends over choosing a restaurant just might kill us in the long run.

  13. Gordon says:

    Great story Kevin. I too have been here many times before with both family and friends and felt really trrrible after, spoiled many evenings and get- togethers even though the food choices were healthy. It caused a lot of cortisol release for everybody involved and soon I found that I wasn’t invited to as many gatherings as before. I have mellowed out since then and eat really healthy at home and enjoy social gatherings better now by going with the flow. Thanks for your honest reports and experiences as usual.

  14. reen says:

    Sometimes hospitality needs to govern our actions. There were times in the Bible when even Jesus ate meat, and it was in the context of hospitality, which overrides the dietary outline in Genesis 1. He did not, however, eat anything unclean. But then those items would not have even been considered edible.

  15. Anna-Carin Rahm says:

    Hi Kevin, thank you for your honesty. I think we all do our best at that moment, if we could have done better we would. That need of “having it my way” is something everyone can relate to I think. Next time we do better once we realize where the problem lies and so you did too. I think that how we feel is very important to our overall health. Eat a little crap but in nice company 🙂 is probably doing us good.
    You are such a cureageous (don´t know how to spell that) person and that is wonderful.

  16. Gerry says:

    Hi, Kevin:
    I join you and the others who have “been there, done that,” and it is a pleasure to “watch” you and Anne Marie “grow” as you share your experiences with us.
    My own conclusion is when you, I, or others are thinking negatively about others it is because we are not “right” within ourselves and are venting on them.
    For myself I have found that is usually derived from making poor food and/or other lifestyle choices which in turn affects the body, mind and emotions.
    When I am “sane” and still able to be objective enough to “catch” myself, I can acknowledge it and do something more positive.
    Thank you for articulating so well your own experiences thus enabling us to better sort out our own and be better for it;-).
    p.s. Re: the comment “he noticed that after he started eating more healthily at first he had more not less illnesses.” When the body is fed nutritious foods, it gathers the strength and vitality to “clean house” which often results in symptoms such as headaches, rashes, as the body does all in its power to release stored toxins from the body.

  17. Lois says:

    I absolutely agree with you, Kevin. A few years ago, I was so dogmatic about eating raw that I pretty much alienated friends and family. I have since calmed down tremendously (maybe, in fact, going a tad too far in the unhealthy direction). However, mealtimes are far less stressful and my blood results (I have leukemia) have actually improved even while my quest for the perfect nutritional intake has taken a backseat. Plus, I’m laughing a lot more! :0)

  18. Deb says:

    I have some complex health problems. It is similar to MS which is a damaged central nervous system but effects the motor nervous system. I have dysautonomia which too is a damaged CNS but mine effects the autonomic nervous system (ANS). There are many triggers that make me very sick when my body doesn’t regulate properly. Foods are a big trigger. Eating certain things can leave me sick for a few days. But I decided years ago not to let it take the joy of an occasion from my friends because stress for me is just as big of a trigger. I try to just choose my foods carefully and let them enjoy their foods guilt free.
    Stress is worse for the body than a little bit of any food I can think of.

  19. Kadi says:

    Kevin, this is just simply beautiful!! Thanks a lot. What a pleasure to watch you guys grow. Noone should be ashamed of their mistakes they once made and learned from. I am so grateful I got to read this story. Thank you again.

  20. Geoff says:

    We can become over-righteous about much and become bores and boorish. Placing limits on ourselves places them on others too; and the spontaneity of life has a bucket of cold water poured on it as ‘Lets go to….. Oh; we can’t go there, Kev only eats raw food’. I lived with someone who wouldn’t eat this and that or the other they were a pain in the arse. It’s okay if you have, say, a nut allergy that is perfectly understandable; but to say (in so many words) ‘I can’t eat any cooked food’ like it will kill you; well you got what you deserved – fanaticism has its price. Glad you have lightened up a little, maybe alot – who knows; life is too short to pick and sniff over every morsel you put in your body, I mean it’s not like you are not going to die, you are; so live a little. Thanks for sharing your experience.

  21. L A says:

    I’m going to NY in a couple of weeks and will be staying with family who are on a meat diet for weight control. So, I’m taking this opportunity to remind myself of what truly matters as follows:

    Dear Self;
    Who are you? What are you? You are not separate from LIFE. In a certain way, are you no different than raw veggies, energetically speaking? What you do bring to the table that a carrot doesn’t is a consciousness of self awareness. Awareness resonates with the larger AWARENESS.You are not separate.

    Therefore,if you are the guest and your host sets the table with steak and banana pudding can you not invoke your awareness into the situation? Practically speaking, give thanks by finding real gratitude within yourself for, at least, not having to prepare your own meal and that your host went to the trouble to feed your sorry ass (LOL). If you truly bless what is set before you, you would be amazed at what you can eat and what can happen to your immune system. If you think not, go live in the street, get real hungry, go dumpster diving and find something to eat….at least your body would be thankful and your immune system would be on high alert. So, maybe next time before you throw a tantrum about food, try to remember the dumpster is waiting on someone, somewhere that is no different than you. Gratitude makes all the difference. Sometimes, you have to dig within to find it as you psychically hear the remains(steak) of what was alive that now sits on your plate.
    Simply, “If your thankful for your food, it will be a blessing”

    Thanks Kevin for the opportunity to be Clear on this subject before my trip.

  22. Rick says:

    A man once told The Buddha,
    “I want happiness”

    The Buddha replied,
    “First remove ‘I’, that’s ego.
    Then remove ‘want’, that’s desire.

    And now all you’re left with is

    Nuff said?

  23. Dave says:

    Completely agree.

    There is no doubt that the mind and emotions override the physical… even if it’s what you deem the healthiest food around.

    Flexibility is key to health. Just as much as acceptance of that flexibility, i.e. make sure you don’t beat yourself up after practicing flexibility.

    Thanks for sharing. Articles like these will definitely help people from going too far into rigid food-health craziness.

    Thank you.

  24. Max Tuvk says:

    Brilliant article Kevin! It’s not just about the food is it – there are many more aspects to our health than what we eat. There’s exercise, stress levels, spiritual practice, relaxation, interaction with others… we are only as strong as our weakest link. So if we spend hours stressing about where to get a raw meal, we will do a lot more damage to ourselves than eating 3 or 4 vegan cooked meals on a year, for example. I eat 100% raw all the time, apart from when I can’t! Then I go with the next best option. And enjoy it.

  25. Shelly says:

    One of your best posts! Over-thinking and strict adherence to something is bondage. Glad you found the ability to relax & enjoy!

  26. Barbara says:

    In our culture today I think we totally discount the energy we bring into anything we do, that definitely includes our foods.

    If we have organic foods and it is prepared with anger… what is the result of this on our bodies?
    Bad energy enters us like food and water. To what degree it negates our food nourishment we don’t know. But it limits our healing.
    If all in the universe is energy, how can bad feelings not effect us and what we consume?

    I do eat some meat, chicken and fish… but it is organic because I think eating a certain amount of meats is not bad for you. I used to be arrogant and argue with people or say ugh! how can eat that McDonald’s, now I just say no thanks, you can’t change people they need to change themselves.

    The most important thing, I think, is give thanks before you eat any foods. Give thanks to all involved in bringing the food to you, if animal, bless the spirit of that animal that gave it’s life so we may be nourished.

    The American Indians, always gave thanks to the spirit of the animal they had just hunted and killed… for it’s sacrifice so they could survive.

    Respect in all things.

  27. Michele says:


    I just want to say ( a week late I guess) that I LOVE your knew take on your website. That is, your writing from the heart and conversational manner is so much more valuable than what was esssentially (forgive me) a watered down advertising stream.

    Thank you for the honest and true path you have chosen in you new style.

    It works for me. Most likely, you have heard the same from many others too.

    Thank you, brave soull.

  28. Veronica says:

    Thanks Keven for the beautiful illustration on how we insist upon having our own way! A beautiful story! Thanks for sharing Kevin.

    I just try not to make a big deal of what I eat in front of others, and go for whatever is raw, eat just a little, or don’t eat at all. I can usually get a salad at any restaurant. I do taste a food, especially if someone made it and especially wants me to try it. Remember, these people have good intentions and want to please you most of the time. So, BE PLEASED! A taste is not going to bring you to the brink of a major illness!

    Whenever people try to make a fuss over what I can and can’t eat at a party, I just tell them that a salad is fine and not to worry about me. I can always bring my own, and I usually do, and eat it if necessary. One doesn’t need much food, and can always eat at home, as someone said above.

    It is really about thinking of others first and not so much of ourselves, isn’t it? The Bible says “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you” hence the golden rule. And isn’t there a commandment that ways we are to love others as ourselves? Have you ever thought about how difficult it is to love someone else like you love yourself? I mean, really, don’t we all think about ourselves first? So yes, we should not insist upon having our own way.


  29. Mary says:

    I do agree with the idea that our mood/intention has much to do with how “healthy” the experience ends up being. However, a word must be said for the person who is perhaps still in the healing phase, still very over reactive and still needing to be a bit rigid about his/her diet. Been there done that and now am able to a bit more flexible. Gratitude! There is room for both.

  30. Michelle says:

    Good for you. I traveled much the same path and decided that family and love are much more valuable than the stress of any meal. I think they call this wisdom.

  31. Harlow says:

    @ Carmen-
    “Hi Kevin, the problem is not the raw food diet but your attitude at the time. ”

    that is the whole point Kevin is getting across in the story.

  32. kat says:

    I’ve also been there and done that and now relish the freedom that comes from releasing myself from the self-imposed prison of eating a certain diet. I am more in tune with my body and find I can always find something to eat no matter where I be. And the food just tastes better and better! How does it get any better than this? What else is possible?

  33. Hi Kevin,

    Thank you for sharing this. I think that your insistence came from your pride, plain and simple. You were insisting that everyone follow what it was that YOU wanted and you had no concern for others. It was just self-centered and because inately we are meant to love others more than our own selves, this caused distress, not only for you but for those that were with you. Who doesn’t have pride, though? I am not saying that to excuse your behavior, but only to say that no one can look at you and point that out without first realizing how far short I/we fall as well. Everyone has pride and this is the problem with our world. Think about it, if people were always humble, there would never be a problem. The people who are humble are ALWAYS the ones who I am drawn to, because I marvel at their character and so want to be like them. Yes, it is important for you to hold fast to your food beliefs and needs, but you could have easily said that you needed to eat at home or grabbed something to eat on the way (apple) and eaten later, etc. It seems good to always remember the other person in any given situation and to give way to his/her desires as a means for us to attain virtue, because the reality is, we are absolutely able to hold fast to any truth and still be humble and give way to others – in every situation. (These things are absolutely directed at my own self, as well.) Thanks again for your openness…Have a great day!

  34. Kushla says:

    Hey Kevin,

    I loved this post! It was areally nice refelction to share.

  35. andrea Eagles says:

    Really good point here. Thanks for sharing.


  36. Maureen says:

    Interestingly, I was sitting here pondering my own dilemma when I opened your email. I have a situation right now where I am angry because people are not being responsible, at least according to my expectations. I am observing myself and am angry at myself for being so critical of others and imposing my will on them even if it is only in my mind. My mind doesn’t want to react this way but my body doesn’t seem to understand that. The tension is there. The judgment and resentment are there. Maybe it is old control issues, maybe I need different friends, maybe I am too rigid, maybe I am just overwhelmed in general and this is the tipping point. It could even be all of the above. Either way I think there is something deeper in my psyche that needs tweaking, a deeper understanding is called for of myself and of others. I am still without a conclusion and yet really wanting one. I am waiting for the bells to sound in my head and heart.

  37. Prema says:

    Of course nothing is worth getting into a bad emotional state over. In fact negative thinking is the most toxic thing that we can put into our body….way more toxic than cooked foods. Though I believe in being a vegetarian and eating all organic foods I do not believe in raw food as the only form of food. I have studied a bit of Ayurveda and followed it. It is never a good idea to eat Vata Foods in the Vata season or if you have a constitution that is Vata viciated. I think that the West ought to look into some of the ancient ways of eating before declaring that it knows the best way to eat. One thing that the ancient forms of eating have over modern day western science is that it is taylor made for a person’s individual constitution. Raw foods create Vata and Vata is the major source of disease. Raw Foods are not good for everyone..

  38. Stacy says:

    Man, ur in trouble now with the raw food tyrants! You do know you’ll die eating that way! 😉

    (Yep, I 100% agree with your conclusion.)

  39. Maureen says:

    I just found something that gives me pause in my contemplation of my own judgment and criticism of some people in my life. This is only a small piece of what I found, but it says so much.

    The Great Way is not difficult
    for those not attached to preferences.
    When neither love nor hate arises,
    all is clear and undisguised.
    Separate by the smallest amount, however,
    and you are as far from it as heaven is from earth.

    If you wish to know the truth,
    then hold to no opinions for or against anything.
    To set up what you like against what you dislike
    is the disease of the mind.

    When the fundamental nature of things is not recognized
    the mind’s essential peace is disturbed to no avail.
    The Way is perfect as vast space is perfect,
    where nothing is lacking and nothing is in excess.

  40. Patricia says:

    Hi Kevin, My view on the dilemma is this; One does what he thinks is best for himself and others, he does not leave out the others. I think if a person really understands what he is putting into his body and what the “food” does once it is there he will make much better decisions of what he puts into the body. So, therefore, education is the answer of what to eat not force. If one wants to be with the group and they are making wrong decisions you can either education them (by example or materials) or go along with them
    or leave the group as you did that day. example: If I were in a group doing recreational drugs I would not go along with them in taking the drugs. I would excuse myself and or find new friends (if I did not think they were willing to learn what the drugs were doing to their body) We all have a choice and as long as we make the choices we think is right we will be ok. At the least we will have integrity and free will. 🙂

  41. Odette says:

    We all die eventually. No matter what we eat. :~)

  42. Brianna says:

    I can relate. And I totally agree. Great insight, and a great article, once again.

  43. L1Z says:

    Honest of you to comment this way! I think people can get very stressed pushing themselves to follow a certain rigid path, until it becomes almost an addiction. And maybe this was where you were, at that time.
    Once you have reached the point where you can feed yourself raw food automatically without making much conscious effort, then perhaps you are ready to move on to the next stage where you can relax, and observe what is going on around you, and fit in cheerfully with your friends, to break the raw habit now and again.

  44. Teddy says:

    The following story impressed me: Children were happily playing with their animal crackers for a long time. Later the mother approached and asked where are the animal crackers. They said we ate them when they got too dirty to play with! A long time ago study at a west coast university revealed that those who ate food in a negative state of mind – did not like the food, were not happy, etc. had no nutrients in their blood stream hours later. Where as those who were happy when they ate, enjoyed the food, perhaps said a blessing over their food and had a positive feeling had nutrients in their blood stream hours later. So it is NOT really so much what you eat within reason, but how you feel when you eat it. You are what you eat is not really true! You are what you eat, providing you assimilate it. Assimilation depends on our attitude, how well we chew our food and IF OUR COLON IS CLOGGED LIKE MOST AMERICANS FROM REFINED FOOD, ORGANIC PIZZAS, PASTA, ETC YOU WILL NOT ASSIMILATE IT.

  45. Denise says:

    Even the Dalai Lama says that he is a flextarian when eating. When he goes out he will eat what others are eating and at home he stays with a vegetarian way of life. I think he has a great handle on life!
    Love your story!

  46. Hilda says:

    Thanks, Kevin, for sharing this story. I eat mostly raw, organic foods following a serious cancer health crisis 3.5 years ago. I did like you did in the early days of eating raw, but I have chilled out a lot now and am much happier for it. I often take what I call “salad enhancements” with me when I go out to eat. I can pretty much get a salad anywhere (although most likely not organic), and I take out my healthy additions and add them to my salad at the restaurant. I will also eat some vegan cooked foods when I go out to eat if there is little else for me on the menu. There is certainly a lot less stress for me when I go out to eat now, and it is actually fun to allow myself to eat something different while enjoying the company of my friends. Some of my friends will cook something special for me, and as long as it is vegan, I will eat some. I always feel tremendous gratitude for all the kindness and love they put in the food they make especially for me. I really think that my attitude about eating is healthier now. I eat organic, mostly raw foods most of the time so I feel comfortable with the occasional splurge, but this attitude did not develop over night. Anyway, thanks again for sharing your story!

  47. Alen says:

    Kevin…special of you to share….certainly sounds as though you came to understand a valuable truth. Life is like a basket of fruits,vegies,dietary provisions and yes…experiences some missteps…but hopefully memorable ones as well. Your “mission” to keep others informed is appreciated. One of my most valued possesions in my “basket of life” is kangen water(tm)… Hope to visit some day with you about it and perhaps you will endorse and embrace it as well. All the best to you and yours….keep well, keep happy and keep in touch if you wish, Alen

  48. Norman Hawker says:

    Some say “It’s not what you eat, it’s what’s eating you.” Every thought has a biological consequence, and angry or fearful thoughts can set off chemical chain reactions that shut down enzymes and alter metabolism. The opposite of saying grace or blessing your food, these negative emotions can essentially rob even the best food of its nutrition.

  49. LAURA says:

    So many great and supportive responses here…love it.

    I think we’ve all been in the same situation, as related to food, or something else, and I strongly agree that doing the best we can for ourselves and others at the time is the healthiest way to go, on many levels.

    I once read a quote (don’t know who said it and it really doesn’t matter) that says, “EVERYTHING IS PERFECT, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT, OR NOT”. So, if we can roll with the journey, not focus so much on the destination, and learn as we go, we’ll all be more at peace within ourselves and the illusions (!) around us. I think it is all about our spiritual evolution.

    Thanks for all the inspiration you share, Keving & Annmarie!

  50. Yochannah says:

    This post was timely, and needed; well put! Thank you– x3– for posting this.

  51. Sigrid Marshall says:

    I just wanted to commend you for your good article. Yes, I believe you can have the best nourinshing meal and it all turns acid (sour) in your system because of stress and a “sour” disposition! We know what is real food and we just eat what our body is desiring– that is usually what our bodie needs.

  52. Nomi says:

    Loved this piece Kevin. I was a raw food zealot for my first 5 years. (I’ve been ‘raw’ for 25 years now). I was totally rigid with myself. A funny thing happened though. I was in Florida working at Hippocrates Health Institute (yes it’s much easier being 100% raw when working there, and at the time not only did employees get to eat there, they could take home a container of food for their day off -so all I was making at home was smoothies and at the time, Kombucha).

    The funny thing was my daughter came to visit and we went out for breakfast. I drank a big mug of coffee with milk and sugar without even thinking about it. I hadn’t touched anything like it for years. Just got right back in the old flow. Then it was: WHAT DID I JUST DO! Woke up the next day with every joint in my body screaming…I mean every joint-even each finger joint.

    LOL joke was on me. But I didn’t die. Felt better in a day. Amazing how easy it was to just snap back into the old ways (being with someone I love who I don’t see very into something we used to do…..)

    I think what happened in your first scenario is that you were still in zealot mode…where you think that you and your friends will actually be killing yourselves if you eat anything off the strict raw menu.

    It’s what you do most of the time, not what you do once in awhile, that makes the biggest diffrence.

    I think most long-term raw fooders like me have tempered just like you describe your Indian food experience.

  53. sandra frankel says:

    great little story.
    you are so honest- even about the others not wanting to be with you.
    I can understand that sometimes there is some fear around changing a discipline you’ve committed to.

    but- I totally agree, our emotions and beliefs are just as important ( sometimes even more so) than what we eat.
    It’s a good reminder to aim for a healthy balance in life- to be flexible and to be as mindful about stress as diet. thanks.

    here’s an Edgar Cayce quote:
    What you eat and what you think make you who you are.


  54. Becky says:

    I used to be this hard-core, wouldn’t let up my grip on the perfection of raw foods. Then, recently, something in me told me to let go and I released an unhealthy aspect of myself to embrace a more rounded and definitely healthier mindset towards food in general.

    I am discovering it is more about enjoying and discovering life than it is about how clean the food you’re eating is. Life is so much more than food! And our bodies are more resilient than we think.

    The piece many of us on the extreme health food circut are missing is exactly how powerful the mind is. The power of the mind is untold.

    I can’t believe another one of your stories hit at another perfect moment in my life. Thank you again for sharing Kevin!
    -your story resonated with me perfectly.

  55. Ben McLean says:

    a dog returns to its vomit”

    let a sleeping dog lay”

    perhaps you’ve by mistake invented a new invention of health product. The non-physical health product, such as basic mediation, can help the wellness-minded person to achieve a healthy energy flow whilst used in tandem with physical health product you can eat.

    The story in NYC, perhaps it was better just to drink some glassed-bottled spring water and a plain white bread roll from a bread bakery AND just go along with the group you happen to be with. I find myself doing such things at a similar situation.

    I think it was needed for YOU to experience what happened as essential for you total health protocol. In conclusion, food products are great but also non-food product are immportant to manage your lifestyle and energy flows.

  56. Gary says:

    Thanks Kevin for another great post, I always appreciate your honesty. For over 25 years I was a very strict vegan, for 7 of those years 100% raw, later a combination of both cooked and raw. The last 5 years I have broadened my diet to include eggs and some healthy fish (not easy decisions to make at the time). My point is for those 25 years while trying to perfect myself in life I had withdrawn from living. Not a smart or a really healthy choice. Now living is much easier, healthier and definitely more happier too.

  57. Melissa says:

    Wow. Thanks to all who have liberally quoted the spiritual masters on this question. I’ve taken note of each one.

    However, zealot mode is not the same for everyone – because if you have a serious health or mental health issue – this can make a big difference on how your body will metabolize these nutrients. The issues begin on a spiritual level and then filter down to the level of physical wellness/unwellness. One mistake i have made, though is to overestimate how much a craving for food is a craving/need for love – for sharing creatively with another person – because sustenance is not only a “meal” its also love and ‘manna’, feelings of belonging & heart-centered wisdom. Don’t throw away the idea of the love you need or deserve in favor for the quickie fix, or the “chocolate bliss” that will ‘blow your fuses’ and leave you depleted. The Atlanteans did it … but do we need to repeat it?

  58. Cortney says:

    THIS is why I read your blog.

  59. Irina says:

    Beautifully said, Kevin! I agree with you completely. We’ve come a long way since those days… That is what I love about you guys: your honesty, ability to recognize when change is needed and being open to it, and your love of life and of course that you can communicate it all in a wise and fun to read post 🙂

  60. jody says:

    there much to be said about going with the flow, being flexible and making an enjoyable time of it with friends. i think your rushing into the city like that just to get a raw meal was nuts and inflexible and unnecessary and even stuck. you need to go with the flow, be more open to being in the moment to see what other more convenient options are available that include friends and joy and not always having exactly what you think you want. it wasnt worth it it was unnecessary and extreme. thanks

  61. Sylvie says:

    I can totally relate and like you, am glad that I am no longer as rigid and fanatical about my diet. However, your post is also a reminder to me that I could relax about my foodist purity choices even more. This is the first time I’ve written in, but I’ve been appreciating your honest and thorough evaluations of foodie issues for some time. Thanks! Keep up the great work!

  62. Karen says:

    I absolutely agree with you Kevin. One of the reasons I like your site is the fact that you are not a raw food extremist. Some days you want a warm cooked meal especially in the winters up here in the Midwest.

  63. Jodeen says:

    This is so very great! That holier than thou mentality that creates such a division is present everywhere in our world. I am a yoga teacher, and find it, ironically enough, in the yoga world to an intense degree. Everyone must find their own path and their own balance. We must set a joyous healthy example of how our eating habits create a super happy, relaxed human being. Frequently my experience has been just what you described, someone self righteous, humorless, and fearful of eating anything other than what they deemed “healthy” and being ultra high maintenance, and not someone you would want to spend time with. Before I changed my eating habits, sparked by a cancer diagnosis, it was those individuals, who looked healthy, were low maintenance, smoothly prepared their food with no show or flourish of how it was the only “right” way to eat, who made me curious about exploring alternative eating habits.
    Thank you for being so open and humorous in your sharing.
    I have a blog where I touch on health, well being, yoga and my dance with cancer.
    Please check it out. I think you would enjoy it.

  64. Adrienne says:

    Your honesty is helpful. Yesterday I was listening to a Pema Chodron CD about meditation. She was talking about softening and letting go when we become indignant and want “our way”.
    Your story illustrates a fine example of being indignant, but more importantly learning the value of not being indignant.

    Other peoples’ honesty and courage helps me feel less alone.


  65. barbara says:

    Kevin, You just gotta laugh. If you aren’t paying attention to having “real” water and you only worry about the Raw foods you are eating, then what the heck. One meal won’t kill you, but “silence” at the table just might…. Hang in there buddy. Next time take your own food or just be happy with a “blah” salad from the other restaurant. At least you would be able to enjoy the company.

  66. Elissa says:

    You know, your story reminds me why I consider balance to be so important. Balance. We eat vegan at home. Out, there is a bit more balance (aka other foods) so that we can enjoy friendships while breaking bread, etc. We don’t have to worry about being perfect all the time. Dr. Fuhrman suggests a 90/10 rule. Be perfect 90% of the time. hmmm. I can try that. It’s all about balance and not stressing over the small stuff. Enjoy the bigger picture. Balance.

  67. Lorraine says:

    That was a great story and I was really laughing knowing full well how most of us are. We get so stubborn and set in our ways. I am happy to hear I am not the only one! I mostly eat a vegan cooked meal when I go out with others and always recommend an Asian restaurant so I can eat that way.
    Unfortunately we have no raw food places anywhere near where I live, so I have to tell everyone ahead of time that I will only eat at Asian or Chinese places. I feel the same as you do though, that “it is not organic!!!”
    Best to keep our life as stress free as possible though! I sure do love your stories!
    Thank you!

  68. Mari says:

    Dear Kev,
    Your honesty is so appreciated.
    I don’t always agree with you but
    very well done on this particular story.
    It also makes me feel much better, since
    I’m not close to being 100% raw. Still
    working on it though. 🙂

  69. Brianne says:

    You totally get it. Awesome article.

  70. Linda says:

    There are a few things I don’t compromise on, but keeping the peace, not being a fanatic, and preventing toxic stress are good health strategies. Egos so often get in the way when it comes to healthful eating, and it also happens, egos get in the way of healthful relationships as well. We know what we consider to be toxic or healthful foods, and we also need to be mindful of our egos and attitudes when it comes to what’s toxic, or healthful in our relationships. Finding balance is an individual pursuit some navigate more effectively than others, and there’s always room for more growth and wisdom.

  71. Teadye says:

    There’s a wonderful story at the beginning of one of Dr Weil’s books similar to this. He was apprehensive about his diet at a breakfast in Germany where the fare was sausages and beer accompanied by lots of singing and good will. He thought he would surely pay for it later, but was astounded to find that he felt great! and looks forward to doing it again some time. In retrospect I wonder if there might have been some of the fermentation effect… I’m sure there was plenty of traditional German brot and kraut served as well.

  72. Lyn says:

    I read a story once about a man visiting with a group of monks. The monks were vegetarian, and the visitor was learning their gentle ways.

    The monks frequently went out to the villages and worked with the villagers. And one day, the villagers prepared a meal of meat for the monks in thanks. The monks happily ate the meaty meal, and the visitor was shocked at their hypocrisy. The monks, however, told the visitor that it is much more healthy to accept the gift and eat joyfully than to reject the gift and stick to their vegetarian diet.

    As a non-judgemental, non-evangelical vegetarian, I LOVE this story. I may even eat meat because of it oneday.

    But not yet… 🙂

    And by the way, I applaud your willingness to show yourself, warts and all! You truly are appreciated.

  73. Jessy says:

    Very honest and inspiring piece you wrote, Kevin. I love your blog for it non adherence to dogma.

    I can relate to not wanting to eat raw foods and salad when it’s cold outside. Those foods tend to be already cooling, therefore one can get unbalanced. Good health is fine tuning the yin and yang of our body, in cooperation with the nature outside. I have no problem being raw in the hot weather. The coolness of the foods balances the heat. In the cold weather, I have to have some cooked and hot foods as part of a healthy diet.

  74. Lawrenz says:

    The social need of we humans to graze together is a lot of pressure especially if traveling around this planet. After a decade of this dis-ease experienced in various social gatherings that demanded one consume what the herd consumed or be banished as an outcast was too much & not worth being obsessive to the point I considered it being an eating disorder. At this point in time I believe ones goal is to have a diet/lifestyle attained that ones health gives you the capabilities of eating nails,glass and arsenic without it being a threat to your happiness and well being. If this does not happen/manifested are we doing something not attuned to what the universe has planned for us.

  75. Oleander says:

    I agree that it’s boring for friends if we are dogmatic about food. My fridge is full of lovely fresh vegetables and fruit, but as a vegan, I can always find something on the menu, such as mushrooms, chips (which I believe are known as French fries in US) and salad.

    When I am in Portland, Maine each year, I treat my son and daughter in law to dinner at the Salt Water Grill in South Portland.As you may guess, it’s mainly fish,- but hy always have vegetables, pasta and lovely olives. It is so wonderful dining on decking at the water’s edge, looking across the harbour at the lights of Portland! My perfect place! So the setting and company and good wine, by far compensates for limited vegan menu!
    Oleander, UK

  76. Liloux says:

    Hi Kev,
    I guess avocados are not so easy to find (as in beautiful ripe organic ones) in New York as here in California but… Staying raw while going out with friends is not so hard if you plan a little ahead. Pack an avocado, order a salad, or two depending on the size. Maybe bring a packet of salad booster or your own dressing and you will eat well despite the cooked-foodist who surround you. Have a glass of wine and noone notices, after they got into theirs too, that you eat a little different. I try to be flexible but also, I plan in advance whenever possible. Fresh fruits are easy to pack, and dates with walnuts makes a delicious desert. That being said… I do have a weakness for thai and Indian cuisines. While it isn’t hard to replicate them at home in a raw format, it is not easy finding something raw at an Indian restaurant. Thai usually has some pretty good salads so that isn’t hard, just leave out the toasted nuts etc. If I found myself sitting at an Indian restaurant, I’d pick vegan, and maybe decide to juice the next day, which is why I claim to be 97% raw, rather than 100%.. Whatever you eat, it goes down best with a blessing! When I have a raw regression, I tend to notice it in my body, so it gets easier and easier to stay raw. But now you have me hankering for Indian foods! Time to get some spices out and see what develops, culinarily speaking!

  77. Renee says:

    I have to agree. Glad you came to your senses! 🙂

  78. stacey says:

    Hey Kevin,

    We recently moved from Bulgaria to Spain, and although I thought the probability to stay raw would be higher here in Spain, it is not, due to not yet having learned the area.

    Since I have been following you guys since 2008 I’ve had the luxury to learn from those who went before me…thanks for being the ones to show me that everything matters. And things have to be approached whole-istically.

    I am a raw vegan and I do still also have steamed veg or even veg stew sometimes. And I enjoy them and the love with which they were created!
    Annmarie was one of the first people I heard mentioning ‘massaging’ your salad, and why. I loved that. And I love how you put it all out there in an illustrative way.
    I’m often using your info as a basis for comparison. And lately your cancer info has been of great interest. Thanks for all you both do.

  79. Ira Edwards says:

    A peaceful meal at home with family is more healthful than any diet regimen. Stong feelings about food, adding stress, (call it nutritionism) is destructive to digestion.
    No diet regimen has proven more healthful to well people than plain traditional unprocessed food. Often cooked is better. I eat lots of tomatoes from my own garden, potatoes, onions and squash, along with natural animal fats. I love food.
    I am 81, in perfect health.
    Ira Edward author of Honest Nutrition.

  80. Samantha says:

    I have a couple of friends who are SO rigid about their diet, but they’re not raw foodists; they’re meat eaters. I have no problem with that, but one time I was on vacation in Montreal, Quebec with 3 other friends, one vegetarian like me, and 2 meat-eaters. There was this really great vegetarian restaurant that my veggie friend and I were very excited to go to at some point in the vacation, and made that clear before we left. All we asked our meatie freinds was to TRY it. They had meat at lunch and this veggie retaurant had really good food, and the menu had a really great variety (ie: not just salad, and not junk fast food.)If they really needed some meat, we were willing to go somewhere else after to get them some meat, but we had discussed this retaurant prior, so it’s not not like we surprised them. They were such jerks about the situation and demanded that if we didn’t go to a Wendy’s or Taco Bell with them, they would just go without us. And they did. While my veggie friend and I sat by a beautiful fountain of water in a park, eating our delicious vegetarian food, having a nice conversation while the sun set, our meatie friends wandered around hungry for 45 minutes looking for a Taco Bell. It was their loss, but it bothered my veggie friend and I a little bit only because we frequently made and continue to make restaurant compromises, going to places that serve dishes that are meat-free, but not what I would consider “vegetarian”. (A bowl of iceberg lettuce with 5 pieces of mixed veggies on top doesn’t exactly meet my definition of a “salad” or a “dinner”). Thsnkfully restaurants are starting to serve better vegetarian options!

  81. Christine says:

    Medical Science is showing that 1 minute of stress suppresses your immune system for one hour

  82. Heather says:

    Great story Kevin! I’ve had similar experiences and ironically caused myself ridiculous anxiety in the name of being healthy! Its great to be able to laugh at myself now and to give up being such a control freak.

  83. Sarah says:

    I have totally been there!!! I am now eating more cooked food and I enjoy the relaxed nature of the company and the good meals. However, I will say this, I miss the clarity and peace of being 100% raw even though it was a pain at times and I had awful moments like this. My being “easygoing” has cost me. I do not have the same freedom from illness or weight gain that I did in those days. I never was able to get back to it, once I got off. So I do believe, especially if you are prone to compulsive eating, that protecting your “abstinence” at all costs can be called for.

  84. Andrew Norris says:

    Like others I love your stories. I just read this one

    What is nice about it, is the ending. Could you create some such enders by reverse engineering it? I am sure your brain will be onto it…

  85. Sandra Patterson says:

    Love your post Kevin. We enjoy life more when we think of others.

  86. Laura Farb says:

    I practice Chinese medicine, and one of my favorite quotes from one of my great teachers: “Bad emotion worse than bad food.” I know this from first hand experience as well! 🙂

  87. Mist says:

    This story and kat’s comment (#32, “the self-imposed prison of eating a certain diet”) reminded me of the a-ha song, “Cozy Prisons.”

    “Your transatlantic shopping spree
    Your health forever guarantees
    Organic -bio-life’s a breeze in cosy prisons

    “But hiding out in a salad bar
    Isn’t gonna get you far
    and bottled wine is vinegar tomorrow

    “So if you’re careful
    You won’t get hurt
    But if your careful all the time
    Then what’s it worth?”

    For those concerned about ingesting undesirable substances when eating out, take some activated charcoal and plenty of water along with the food/drinks. It’s the wonder antidote.

  88. Attila says:

    If you want to eat raw during the winter you can use heating spices like cayenne, ginger and garlic instead of cooked foods. Not that there’s anything wrong with cooked food if eaten in moderation and combined with plenty of raw greens. Raw plant food is full of natural, neutral energies whilst cooked food needs to be prepared and consumed feeling love and maintaining a high level of consciousness during the whole process so that similarly pure energies can be ingested by the consumption of the food. It just needs more awareness. And I agree, even the pure energies and health benefits of raw foods can be negated by worrying thoughts. Constant mindfulness regardless of diet is key.

  89. Great lesson, thank you 🙂

  90. Michele says:

    I can’t tell you how much I enjoyed this article. I mean I enjoy all of your articles, but this one seems so familiar. 🙂 This article just felt soothing somehow. While I’m sure people who are hardcore raw foodies, vegans or raw food vegans (i really dislike labels) will look at this and their minds go into overdrive and they want to offer suggestions as to what you should have done or could do when the weather is cold or you are out with friends to stay on “the raw path”, I don’t think that was the point you were trying to make was it. Thank you for sharing.

    PS I love Indian food.:)

  91. shine says:

    not been in that situation having eaten all raw food for 2 years most days were a bit like it feels much healthier to enjoy food and feel joy and gratitude rather than eating food i hated cos it was healthy

  92. draq druella says:

    I couldn’t agree more with you. I want to extend my appreciation to you for your balanced and compassionate approach. In my humble opinion, your articles are positive, practical and very helpful. Thank you for your willingness to take risks in your sharing and exploring of new things. Your honesty is a breath of fresh air and the most helpful of all.

  93. Dr. E says:

    Going to Pure food and wine was something you were obviously looking forward to that day. Being a raw foodist is your life, love and passion. Without knowing the whole situation with your friends, I think they were being a little selfish. You eat very specifically, and if they were truly your friends they would understand why. For heaven’s sake you tell people why every day!
    I am a vegan, no soy, no wheat and only organic food and if people are always surprised and how much better the food is.
    It is important to have your friends around and to have great relationships but your friends know what you do, and what your life is about. To pick a place that they know you cant eat at is just mean. How about you! They don’t care what they eat, but you do! What I am trying to say is health is extremely important and even one meal out can make you sick for days if you are used to eating raw and organic. Why would your “friends” want to put you through that? Trust me, there has been plenty of times I just sat there and had some seltzer and enjoyed time with my friends. In fact I did it yesterday. You are right it is not about the food, it is about people who love and respect you, and leaving you out was mean in my book.

  94. Sarah says:

    Once again, thank you, Kevin for your timely wisdom. I, too believe that we ingest our emotions along with the food we are eating at the time. These are powerful toxins and potentially difficult to expel once they’ve lodged in our bodies. So while it is important to eat healthy I find the more relaxed I am about tiny details, the happier I and the people I am eating with are. Blessings to you and your beautiful family!

  95. Gerry Karr says:

    Raw food may not be healthier anyway. Salads are nice- but some raw food concoctions are loaded with fat from nuts and coconuts and sweeteners, making them decidedly unhealthy. And Kev, now that you are no longer a raw foodist, or even a vegan, you won’t have to stress about these issues.

  96. Jane says:

    Kevin – I think science has already proved that being stressed releases hormones that you don’t need too many of, such as cortisol and apparently 5 mins of anger depresses your immune system for 6 hours. So, I think you’re correct. Any benefit of raw food would be heavily outweighed by being in a negative emotional state.

    The very fact that raw foodists have to get so concerned about vitamin and other nutritional deficiencies is proof to me that a purely raw food diet is not entirely healthy.

    Additionally, they’re now saying that the most toxic disrupter in the human energy system is negative thoughts. Apparently there’s scientific proof for this, but probably the same old same old pseudo-junk science, but it makes sense.

    In fact, as a general comment, I wish the “alternative” community (woo woo, new age, whatever you want to call it) would embrace more conventional science to prove its case. At the moment, 99% of what the new age tells us is contradictory and unproven. As someone with a scientific mind, this bugs me.

    However, I’m also an intuitive and so I’m prepared to believe that there is far more going on than what western, slowly lumbering science can tell us.

  97. Nadia says:

    It’s called wisdom. 🙂

  98. Deborah U. says:

    Food and Diet is not a religion. Our primary nourishment is our positive relationships etc. What we put in our mouth as food cannot and should not replace healthy relationships.

  99. Kanti says:

    Kevin…you are funny and a very good writer and above all, humble!
    Thanx for the great realization story! Very Healing…

  100. Kevin
    My son and I have been practicing a raw food diet for 5 weeks now. We started out with the premise that we needed a certain amount of freedom, so we created the 99% Live Organic Vegan Energy food plan. We have shared an annual Thanksgiving meal with friends for 23 years and knew that we didn’t want to be a downer for our friends plus there will always be days like you described. One percent of the three meals we eat per day for 365 days is approximately eleven meals, so we added Thanksgiving Day to that giving us twelve meals a year as “free pass” meals. We can use these days or save them for the next year. My so recently met friends living in Hong Kong in Vancouver, where there are some really good raw food restaurants, but his friends were not raw foodist or vegans, so he used two meals over a week’s time.
    We each carry a “99%” card with twelve boxes on the back which we check off as we use the “free meals”. I haven’t used my “free meals” yet and I’ve joined my family at buffets where there were many raw vegan options. So far this system has worked for us as it anticipates situations like you found yourself and it gives us permission ahead of time to not be perfect, just 99%.

  101. Olga Apollonova says:

    Honestly… what’s the problem? You want RAW when nobody else does… Get yourself something raw and healthy like apples or carrots. (Will take you less than 5 minutes). Find a place to wash it (another 5 minutes). Eat it… And then go with everyone else wherever they like and order nothing but a salad and a green tea while all of your friends eat whatever they want. If you’re really among good friends they will understand.

  102. Grace says:

    When I’m in that situation, I just eat the vegan cooked food. But, before the meal, I pray to Jesus that He will protect me from the harmful Excitotoxins that might be in the food. I agree with you, Kevin.

  103. Suzette says:

    Glad you shared this story. Valuable lesson 😉 Also, next time you’re in Brooklyn try Rockin’ Raw. I’m from the south and I loved going there! Enjoyed Quintessence in the village as well.

  104. Jacky says:

    I am way late on this, but my comment is: you were upset because your brain was starved for nutrients and you couldn’t think straight. Your obsession with raw foods, was just a part of it all. I am so happy that you learned to moderate your thinking, so you can be healthy in body and mind.

  105. CmdrSoCal says:

    Propaganda. At least keep it clean.

  106. Em says:

    This is a wonderful story! Thanks for sharing! I think you are right about the second meal being healthier, definitely 🙂 cheers

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