Renegade Health Radio: The Mistakes of Natural Hygiene

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In this podcast:

  • Understand how ideas are spread among people and how this relates to ideas spread in the natural health community. Sometimes the contrarian idea can be the right idea! 4:04
  • Hear why early natural hygienists were thought of as crazy for their “radical” ideas like fresh air and bathing. 6:00
  • Why “black and white” and idealistic thinking can sometimes do more harm than good; hear Kevin’s experiences with this and a potentially life-threatening experience. 13:12
  • When certain pharmaceutical drugs can actually be the safest form of treatment, and why it’s important to make distinctions when choosing. 15:55
  • Enlightening information on the germ theory and natural hygiene’s take on it. Spoiler alert: yes, you can actually get sick. 16:44
  • Why it’s natural for the body to slowly start breaking down. We have to die of something! 20:20
  • When genetic mutations can actually be beneficial evolutionary processes, as in the case with polar bears as we know them today. 21:21
  • Why sugar isn’t the sole cause of diabetes and what natural hygiene had to say about it. 25:00
  • Understand why excess fat in the diet can be particularly damaging when following a raw food diet. 28:01

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Kevin: Renegade Health Radio. This is Kevin Gianni here with Frederic Patenaude.

Fred: Good afternoon, Kevin.

Kevin: Good afternoon.

Fred: How are you doing?

Kevin: For those of you out there who don’t know, I’ve been writing a book with Hay House. By the way, they are fantastic publishers. I cannot say anything bad about their process. I think it’s fantastic. They’re great people, and I’ve finished almost all the chapters except for the epilogue, and I am printing out the entire book today, and I’m going to take it to a coffee shop and I’m not going to leave there for a whole week. Hopefully, they’ll let me stay for 24 hours straight.

Fred: [laughs] Sounds good. And your book is…I know it’s a long process, because you started this process in January 2014. And then it’s going to be released in July of 2015, and we’re not even in 2015 yet as we record this, so it’s a long process to get a big book published like that.

Kevin: You know, it’s amazing that it takes so long, because you know, we’ve self published some books before. We’ve had editors and we’ve done all these sorts of things. We’ve had graphic designers design the covers, like our High Raw book, for instance, and Fred, you’ve done the same thing. You have plenty of books that you’ve done, too, and it’s amazing, like what the time frame of that is versus the timeframe of this. And so it’s really remarkable. But they have lots of books to go through.

Fred: Exactly.

Kevin: But I’m excited about it. I think what you’re going to find, those of you who are listening now, when this book comes out, I think that you’re going to find a very refreshing, informative, interesting book on health. I think you are going to want to read it. I think you are going to enjoy it. What I did in the book, like, what I write about in the book, helped me lose almost 35 pounds since January, because I had gone through my organic, eat-whatever-I-want kind of phase, gained some weight, and finally came back into balance.

And it really wasn’t that difficult. And I think that when you look at what I’ve done over the last six or seven months, or now eight months, is it’s not very restrictive. You know, there are certain things that I do, like I switched out my breakfast to only have a green smoothie in the morning. I think that in itself might be a very strong weight loss agent, or weight loss trick, or weight loss “hack,” if you will. And some other things, I mean, just simply cut back a little bit. And I still can enjoy a whole heck of a lot of things, of course organic, and of course, you know, highly and properly sourced, but it’s not been restrictive.

And my hope is that when you read this book, you are going to say…and particularly if you want to lose a couple of pounds or you just want to be healthy and not have to worry about it anymore, but to think of like, when you are eating your lunch, not thinking about what you are going to eat for dinner. I mean, I can’t…I mean, Fred, I’m sure you’ve been through this, too. Like it’s an endless cycle of like, you know, what food am I going to eat next? This book is going to help with that. So I’m excited to bring it to you, eventually. I can’t bring it to you now, because…

Fred: Yeah, and for having read parts of it, Kevin, I do agree that it’s going to deliver on the promise you just made, so looking forward to that.

Kevin: Fantastic. Today we are not talking about the book, though. We are talking about natural hygiene. And we are talking about…I think it’s more than just natural hygiene. What we’re going to be talking about today is how health myths are propagated and which ones are wrong. And some…we are going to explain some that are wrong. And then what that means to you as a reader or a consumer of this information. Does that sound about right, Fred?

Fred: Yeah, the mistakes of natural hygiene. And I think that the way to summarize this, to go in a direction that applies to even more health philosophies, is that sometimes the contrarian idea is the right idea. And sometimes we want to be contrarian for being contrarian, but it’s not the right idea.

So you know, we could say that, let’s say that eating a green smoothie for breakfast is a contrarian idea compared to let’s say, eating the standard breakfast. And some nutritionist might say, “Well, you don’t have enough protein or you don’t have enough of that,” but we find that it works and there’s lots of reasons in science. And then eventually nutritional knowledge progresses and we realize, “Yeah, you know we need more fruits and vegetables and blah, blah, blah, and this is a great breakfast.”

But sometimes the contrarian idea is partly true, but then partly totally wrong. And then that myth gets perpetrated in this field. So what seems like common knowledge outside of the natural health circle is actually not believed to be true inside of the natural health circle. So let’s talk about that.

Kevin: Yeah. Well, let’s start. You’re much more well-versed in natural hygiene than I am. Why don’t you give everyone a definition for those who don’t know what it is.

Fred: All right. Well, natural hygiene, even though people might not know the term, they’ve probably, they most likely have experienced the results in terms of public health policies of early natural hygienists. So people call themselves natural hygienists. It’s a movement that started, let’s say, 150 years ago in the United States that was inspired by the naturopaths of Europe, mainly in Germany. And those people, initially they called their therapy was…it was “nature therapy” or “hydrotherapy” from water. And they had other names like that. And “health reformist” was another name.

And what they did is they went against the common beliefs of medicine at that time, which was, as we know now, completely backwards. People at that time believed that fresh air was bad for your health, and that the sick people with a fever should be locked up inside a room with no circulating air, and then drink no water and drink whiskey to get better, and all kinds of things like that. They thought that bathing was bad for your health.

So the early natural hygienists actually spread those concepts of good health through hygienic practices. That’s where the name comes from. For example, bathing as being a good thing, and eventually the medical community embracing the idea, but it took them a long time to actually say that we should take a shower or bath every day, or more or less.

So that’s how natural hygiene began in 1850, how fasting was rediscovered. And for example, you know, fasting was rediscovered by Dr. Jennings, which is considered like the father of natural hygiene. And he gave people like placebos, so sugar pills, instead of giving them the regular treatment. And people would get better, because the treatment was so harmful back in the days. Like it was actually…you took the treatment and you would die from the treatment because there was no science behind it. And then from there he developed a practice of fasting. And there were other people like Dr. Kellogg, which you might know from the Kellogg’s Corn Flakes, but that was his brother who started this business. But the other brother, John Kellogg, started a center where people ate a healthy diet and fasted and lived a sober life. Like there are…if you go back to those days, there were actually lots of diseases that we don’t even know today. Like I think it’s a disease of dysentery. Is that the right word in English?

Kevin: Yeah sure.

Fred: It’s not a word we use today, but people ate so much food and so much like bad food like big breakfasts full of sausage and then bacon and just like fat and fat and grease all the time that they would develop these crazy digestive problems. And it was the disease of dysentery. And then they found, of course, the natural hygiene movement of that time found that it was, it could be solved by just eating a healthy diet and fasting and so on. So that’s when natural hygiene comes from.

And then later, Dr. Shelton took all of these writings from older natural hygienists and called that, you know, he’s the one who coined the term “natural hygiene” at the beginning of the last century. And then had a fasting center in Texas and wrote a bunch of books and developed this into what we could call a science and an art.

So I think natural hygiene had a lot of great ideas in terms of diet and so on. I mean, just the idea of eating more raw foods and eating more fruits and vegetables instead of lots of grains and meat and so on comes from those natural hygienists. So I think, you know, they were really ahead of their time. But as we’ll talk about today, some of their beliefs were based on the limited scientific knowledge of the time, and are not actually accurate. So those, I would call them “mistakes” of natural hygiene.

Kevin: And I think the most popular natural hygiene literature, if you will, is Fit for Life. You know, Harvey Diamond’s book. And I think when you say that, every one is like, “Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I get it. I know what it is.” And Harvey Diamond doesn’t eat that way anymore. Tony Robins who use to teach Fit for Life has rescinded his support of it way back when, saying “I don’t know. I was just a phase.” I actually saw a video on recently. I don’t know where I came across.

But I think before we delve into some of these errors or these mistakes, I want everyone to be, and the way I think about this, is that we are looking at this to determine what other diet principles are wrong and where can we be more flexible? And I think that this is like the big overriding picture. Because once you get so deep into a theory, you start to put blinders on and you start to not be open to other options or other opportunities. So for me, when I got bit by a tick, I don’t even know if it was seven or eight or five years ago. It was more than five years ago. I don’t remember. But I was lying in bed and I felt this like weird kind of like itchiness on my leg, and I looked down and I see this big red rash and circle. And then right in the middle there’s this little tiny deer tick. And I’m like, “Oh no. I have Lyme disease.”

And so I went to the doctor, who’s a friend of the family, because I was back in Connecticut, and she was like, here, you know, here is 21 days of doxycycline, which is an antibiotic. And this was at a point where I was not open. I had my blinders on. I was into this like, all natural medicine works, all other western medicine doesn’t. You know, just split. I still probably felt like if I broke a leg I’d get a cast or something like that, so I wasn’t that extreme, but I’m in this like duality kind of mindset. So there’s black and white. There’s natural, and there’s western medicine.

So I get the 21 days of antibiotics, but I leave them on my desk. I don’t take them, and I called two natural doctors that I know. Both of them nearly laughed at me, I mean, in a good way, you know what I mean? They were just like, “What are you talking about?” Like, “This is Lyme disease, this isn’t a…” I don’t even know, it’s taking out like a little rash on your hand or something like that. I mean, this is a big deal. This could be an entire lifetime of neurological problems.

And so I said, “Okay, all right, well you know, you could get…I trust both of you guys. I’ll take the 21 days of antibiotics.” And you know, the justification—Dr. Williams is one of the doctors that I talked to—the justification was like, “Hey, what would you rather like to repair. A gut imbalance? Or again, something that actually is irreparable, which is neurological damage?” And so that was pretty easy for me to come to terms with that. It made a lot of sense to me, even though I was still in this duality.

And then this was totally reaffirmed. Annmarie…I did do the 21 days of antibiotics, but also did Stephen Beuner’s approach, which I believe is Healing Lyme. I believe that’s the book. I don’t remember exactly right now. But Annmarie went to go to a natural health store in Connecticut to get some of these herbs. And the guy behind the counter, who is the owner, looked at the herbs, and he’s like, “What are you doing?” Because he had known, I mean he just…I mean, he must see people coming all the time with, you know, to buy those certain herbs. I mean, there were herbs in a combination that, you know, like people don’t normally buy. I remember cats claw and like you know, a few other things. He was like, “What? Wait a minute. This is very specific.” And I think Japanese knotweed, and a few other things.

And so he’s like, “Look,” he’s like, “I think I know what you are trying to do here. This is for Lyme.” And she says, “Yeah, yeah my husband got bit by a tick.” And he’s like, he literally almost instantly like reached out his hand and he looked at her and he said, “Look at my hand.” He said, “I tried the natural approach,” and his hand was just like shaking. It was literally just twitching. He couldn’t hold it straight. He’s like, “I tried the natural approach ten years ago and this is what I’m stuck with.” And he’s like, “Tell him to take the antibiotics.”

So that’s what we’re going to delve into here. We’re going to delve into the reasons why we have to be a little bit more flexible.

Fred: Yeah, this is a good story, Kevin, because I think that’s…I mean, you see a lot of people that try, you know, you want to try the natural treatment first because sometimes the medical treatment does more harm than good. And there are like interesting new research coming out on this that there’s a lot of over-diagnosing going on right now in the medical community. And these are not just like natural people that are talking about this. Like regular medical doctors are talking about this problem. So sometimes you want to do some good and you end up doing some harm. Like you take blood pressure medication when maybe you had a slightly higher blood pressure than most people, but the benefits of taking the medication if you are in that range of you know, you’re not that bad but you are just a little abnormal, is not that great. But the benefit curve rises as you get out of that normal range, right? So I think that’s the case with drugs is sometimes, I mean yes, they do some harm, but they do a lot more good than harm. And sometimes it’s the other way around, you know?

So it’s knowing when, but usually, I mean, getting the opinion of medical doctors that have also like a strong kind of natural bias where they will try to use the natural method when they can, but not be religious about it, and know when to know the difference is the most important thing.

I wanted to just mention like one of the mistakes of natural hygiene, and this is something that I actually believed for a long time. So it has to do with the germ theory. And when I first got into natural hygiene in health, I bought the idea that, you know the entire theory of disease is wrong. That people mainly gets sick because of what they do. And it’s still true, I mean, most disease are caused by lifestyle. But the germ theory, which is not really a theory anymore, I mean, in science they use the word “theory” like “the theory of gravity.” But it’s a theory even though it’s proven, right? It’s still called a theory.

So I bought the belief that diseases like the flu essentially were the body’s efforts to detoxify itself. And that kind of, you know, I remained with that idea for a while until I noticed that it just wasn’t like that. In practice, people got sick because of contagious…a contagion, and of course if they were healthier, they tended to get sick for not as long, or maybe not catch the virus and so on as quickly, or as likely as other people, but it was still caused by something contagious like a virus, bacteria, infection or something like that. And the final realization came when I hadn’t been sick for a while, and of course I was just working on my own, not seeing many people on a daily basis, so I thought, “Hey, I’m so healthy that I don’t get sick.” And you know this whole thing isn’t true, people don’t get sick. And then I went to a conference where there was like 250 other people. And a lot of people were coughing in the room and so on, and some of those people were supposedly healthy. And then my girlfriend got sick and then I got sick and we’re both sick with the flu, essentially.

So it just struck me, it’s not a coincidence that I just got sick from having been around all those people. And usually the people who say they never get sick—they don’t have kids, they work from home and so on, but when usually people get sick more often are in contact with more people on a regular basis. So we are not going to go into like obviously all the reasons why this is true, that you can catch a disease, but it’s true. And then mistake number one, or one of the mistakes of natural hygiene, is just claiming that all diseases are just purely caused by diet and lifestyle.

Kevin: And I think what comes from natural hygiene, too, is that like healthy people shouldn’t get sick. I think that that kind of comes from that type of thought process, too. Would you agree with that?

Fred: Oh yeah. I think that’s another one. Healthy people never get sick. Yeah, you do get sick and people die of something. And everybody who’s going to die, unless you die from an accident, death is caused by something breaking down in the body. And it’s natural over time as the body gets older that things break down. And I even think that the reason why healthy people don’t, you know, we don’t necessarily get cancer as much as other people, has to do with our limited lifespan. I think that if the human being lived 200 years, you’d see a lot more cancer as you go along. And they found this in doing autopsies from people who were supposedly healthy and died at a relatively old age. And they found, hey, you know there’s actually a lot of stuff going on in the body that was wrong, like cancerous tumors and stuff, but it just didn’t live long enough for those things to become a problem.

That’s also the problem with over-diagnosis is often we treat things that would have been a problem much later on down the road, like there’s a lot of research just coming out on prostate cancer that there’s just overtreatment of prostate cancer, and most people would die of other things before that even became a problem. And then the treatment becomes more a problem than the disease.

But things break down and nobody…you look at all these natural health experts, they died of something, eventually. And usually of the body breaking down in some kind of way. And if you look at how, just how evolution works on our planet, why do species evolve? It’s because there’s a mutation, and then sometimes the mutation is advantageous, in the DNA. You know, mutation in the DNA? The bear gets a mutation, the black bear. And it gets a white coat in the great north, and a white, you know, the white-furred bears ended up having an advantage because they can sneak up on their prey, you know, without them noticing as much. So they live longer. And eventually all of the bears living in the north benefit from that mutation, and then they all become white bears as we know, I mean not white. What do they call it? Polar bears as we know them today. But it started from a mutation.

But obviously, if mutations can lead to positive evolution, they also have to have the opposite effects. So lots of times people, you know, you’re born with a genetic defect and it’s not to your advantage, right? In fact, it’s the opposite. It’s going to lead to your early demise. And I don’t think there’s a lot we can do against that. We can just try our best to deal with the cards we’ve been dealt with from birth, but you know, it’s a dream to think that diet is going to solve everything.

Kevin: Of course. It’s helpful to know. I mean, it’s helpful to know the genes that you have and the mutations that you have. I’ve run a full 23 and me report and taken it to LiveWello, which is a site where you can pay to have—I think it’s like $19 or something like that—where you can pay to actually have it, analyze it, and show you your detoxification channels, methylation channels, show where these things are somewhat imbalanced, or were mutated, and you can help yourself by eating in a way that maybe steers away from triggering some of those genes. But again, there’s some level of like, we do have a finite lifestyle, lifespan. I mean, you know that’s, you know, we will die eventually, right? You know, every animal dies. So that’s that point. But you definitely can expand, at least your existing…at least you can expand or you can improve your existing lifetime. You can expand, or you can have a better experience with healthy decisions based on your genes.

One thing I do want to talk about before we go is this short sightedness, you know, again, I wanted to kind of touch on that again, because I don’t know if this necessarily comes from natural hygiene, but I know it does, because part of it does, because natural hygiene is very, very adamant about the fact of not eating any additional processed oils. So olive oil, coconut oil, or any oil that’s been extracted from a nut or a fruit, like that. And what’s really interesting is that, as I kind of dive…as I was diving into the book, and particularly the chapter on sugar, you know, we look at sugar as being this thing that causes diabetes, right? And we say, “Yeah, lots of sugar causes diabetes.” And when I dove deeper into the research, I noticed that it really necessarily wasn’t lots of sugar, but it’s lots of sugar and lots of fat. Because when you have fat in your bloodstream along with sugar, what happens is that the insulin doesn’t become as active. I mean, it becomes active, but it’s not able to find the sugar that well, so your body produces more of it just because the bloodstream is clogged up with fat. And this is really what can cause the overactive pancreas, that eventually causes type 2 diabetes.

And when I look at it that way—and you don’t hear many people talking about the combination of the two. You are just like, you know, high-fat diet, you can get sick, you can get heart disease, you can possibly get diabetes. High-sugar diet, yeah, you can get diabetes, but when you remove the fat from a higher sugar or a high-carb diet, which again is kind of like the natural hygiene kind of approach, you could eat some, you eat fruit, you eat greens, you have this low-fat, I guess you could say, the China study diet, which is 80% carbohydrates, 10% fat, 10% protein. What you get is also…what you get is an anti-diabetes diet, as well as if you switch and you eat more protein, more fat, lots of vegetables, but very little sugar. They both are effective for diabetes, which is really interesting.

So the natural hygiene, I think, gets part of it right, but they don’t look at the entire other side of the swing, where if you are eating this other type of diet, which I would say is probably Paleo or kind of in that category, you also can protect yourself from disease, even heart disease, if you are eating, again, if you are eating omega-3 rich animal foods.

Fred: I agree, Kevin. It’s this combination that’s deadly. And natural hygiene gets it partly right when they talk about this, but yeah, there are more ways to arrive at the same destination in terms of…but like I’ve been saying for years, if you are going to eat like a diet with a lot of fruit, like a fruit-based diet, you better make sure you don’t eat too much fat, because that combination is what you see in a lot of raw diets where everything is permitted as long as it’s raw. So people end up eating like, you know, they make a lot of juice, which is sugar, they eat a lot of fruit, which is sugar, dried fruit, sugar. So a lot of sugar. And then they also eat lots of nuts, oils, and then this is like deadly combination where you feel like crap all the time. You don’t have energy and eventually you develop blood sugar imbalances and so on.

So I think that’s why people who are following a raw food diet are even more adamant about cutting out the fat to create a more successful diet. And I found that if I replace—I still eat a lot of fruit, you know, compared to like the average person, but not as much as when I was a raw foodist. So I find that allows me to increase a little bit the amount of fat that I’m eating on a daily basis to maybe like 20%-25% of total calories versus 10%. But if I ate more fruit, I would need to reduce the fat, and so on. So it’s interesting that you are mentioning that, because that’s so true.

Kevin: It’s crazy. And what’s interesting is that as I’m diving through the research, the most prominent research that I found about this was like 2011. I mean, it’s very strange that this is…and I’m sure maybe there’s research from before this. I I’m sure that people have found this before, but you know, the easiest to find is 2011 where people are saying, “Oh, there is a link between the sugar and the fat in the blood with diabetics.” And you are just like, “Yes!” I’m like, “It makes total sense!” you know? And you wonder, you know, these diet extremes, there’s two people, you know, on total opposing viewpoints fighting each other, but they should be like cheering each other on, because they’re both fighting disease.

Fred: Yeah, exactly.

Kevin: All right. So high-fat, high-sugar, watch out for that. Look at your diet today. Take a moment to just like say, “Hey, what am I eating? Am I eating high fat, high sugar? Is this a problem?” We’d love to hear if you are, you know, what you’re going to do to, which way you are going to go to get yourself healthier.

If you want to, we would love for you guys to also post a comment on the iTunes site for this podcast. If you like it, if you found anything valuable today, go ahead and post a comment and we’ll talk to you next time.

Kevin Gianni

Kevin Gianni is a health author, activist and blogger. He started seriously researching personal and preventative natural health therapies in 2002 when he was struck with the reality that cancer ran deep in his family and if he didn’t change the way he was living — he might go down that same path. Since then, he’s written and edited 6 books on the subject of natural health, diet and fitness. During this time, he’s constantly been humbled by what experts claim they know and what actually is true. This has led him to experiment with many diets and protocols — including vegan, raw food, fasting, medical treatments and more — to find out what is myth and what really works in the real world.

Kevin has also traveled around the world searching for the best protocols, foods, medicines and clinics around and bringing them to the readers of his blog — which is one of the most widely read natural health blogs in the world with hundreds of thousands of visitors a month from over 150 countries around the world.


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  1. My girlfriend had Lyme’s for 8 years and got rid of it after briefly using nano-silver. You should have stuck to your non-traditional guns.

    Try to get to the point more quickly. Ok, less oil with sugar for diabetes. End of story.



  2. Lucas says:

    I think you boys developed your constitution based on you level of personal discipline and haphazard, random observations rather than clinical studies. All the while ignoring the accomplishments of Shelton, Dr. Goldhamer, Dr. Esser, Dr. Benish and the like, They’re responsible for documented life saving and live extending treatment for patients – who were told to get their affairs in order by western medicine – using Hygiene, for which fasting is the center piece. Dr. Benish guided me with my 29 year old son from the age of three stating that if I fed my son correctly, he wouldn’t get cold or need antibiotics of vaccinations, and he didn’t from that point on, He went on to lettered in track in high school gradate with honors and get a degree from UCSB, avoiding colds and previous painful ear aches that plagued him to that point all the while he was surrounded by folks that eat like you do.

    As for Harvey Diamond being a spokesperson for Hygiene, you’re kidding right? Check out what he’s really about in “Diamond Ventures”. He’s no more than you two magic bullet pushing bloggers with no clinical studies on patients to determine if what he chooses to parrot actually benefits people or not. I don’t care if you want to explore for your own experimentation whatever may fancy or satisfy you taste buds, but distinguishes what you’re really after – money – from the truth and science.

    Knowing someone with CLL, trust me, Dr. Goldhamer can help extend you life with a simple, free phone consultation. It’s all about discipline, not what taste good or is convenient to drum up. Something someone who can get 35 pounds over weight at your age, is obviously lacking.

  3. Amelia says:

    What about if you have Candida? Can you eat fruit if you don’t eat much fat?

  4. I still believe in the natural theory and the GERM theory. Louise Pasteur was bought and owned by the drug companies of the time. Remember Dr. Bechamp. The trouble today, whether you want to believe it or not, is the government created many of the pathogens such as HIV, Lyme, Herpes, HPV and I could go on forever. Then there is the chemtrail problem. My mother picked hundreds of deer ticks off my body in Virginia where I was raised. I have practiced for 25 years and belong to the American Academy of Antiaging and many other organizations. In Arizona I have full prescriptions rights and I do write prescriptions.I also do fasting, chelation H2O2, phosphatidycholine, pharmaceuticals. As you may know death is programmed through the telomeres and we soon have that under control. Sadly man has degenerated to this point and the human genome demonstrates many defects. The earth is polluted and the NWO is determined to eliminate many people. I follow science and have a engineering degree and a medical degree but many of the health models are total bullshit. I listen to your pod cast and while very good it was very very basic.Be careful, this is a complicated situation. I never reduce fat in by patients diet because cholesterol is soo very good for you. All your hormones and adrenal hormones and vitamin D and your brain comes from cholesterol. Inflammation is the problem. I eat little sugar, or fruits but many organic veggies, Remember that all sugars not burned up turn into triglycerides( bad fats) which gives a false impression that meat and eggs are the problem which they are NOT. Inflammation is the problem.

  5. Listening to your comments about the mistakes Natural Hygiene has made, I must tell you that I
    totally disagree with your research. My first child was ill and when I wrote to Dr. Herbert Shelton
    he replied in two days…I lived in Toronto Canada, he in San Antonio , Texas…..I did what he
    recommended, after taking my child to nine doctors in nine months, with no results, ….but Dr. Shelton’s
    advice worked in one month……My children are now in their 40’s….They have never caught the so
    called comunicable diseases at school, were never vaccinated, and to this day, no one is ever sick or
    has had to see a doctor. My mentors were Natural Hygiene doctors, most of them lived into their 90’s
    and did not die of any disease. Food was not high fat, but was balanced with some fruits, vegetables,
    and one meal was protein, and another carbs, all balanced properly…..children slept from 7 to 7 and
    were very easy to raise, they were happy healthy smart children.
    I do not think you have spoken to numerous people who were living a balanced Natural Hygiene lifestyle as
    we and many others were…we attended the conventions and were able to hear the doctors speak and
    share with many others who had fantastic results raising their children on a pure lifestyle with exercise,
    sunshine, fresh air, emotional poise, optimum nutrition, etc.etc.More research on your subjects would be

    • Lucas says:

      Your experiences paralleled mine exactly. But I worked directly with a colleague of Dr. Shelton here in Escondido California where I live by the name of Dr. Gerald Benish. He lived to his 90’s as well. If it hadn’t been for losing his wife and the loneliness that followed, he may have lasted to the century mark. I had to force this good man to take money from me at times for my visits, which were just the cost of a styled hair cut at the time. He had a very modest home with large vegetable garden, right outside the window of his office, which was attached to the garage.

      I have friend who’s mother went to him 35 years ago with an illness that her doctors told her was going to take here life within six months. She did a 45 day fast under Dr. Benish’s supervision and she is still alive today.

      A humble man who could look into your eyes and tell you if you had pneumonia in a particular lung 30 years prior. He told my mother her hearing was bad in one of her ears by looking in her eyes as well, she was amazed. Just a wonderful man who epitomized the term Doctor.

  6. arnie says:

    Good info. I have personally experienced the limitations and problems with natural hygiene practitioners. The premise seems to work for them personally (some of the oldest healthcare practitioners are natural hygiegenists) but there are major shortcomings with this approach. The main one is the oversimplification of very complex bodily processes and that can mean wasting valuable time at best and dangerous outcomes in the worst scenarios.

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