Renegade Health Radio: The Truth About Food Combining

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In this podcast:

  • How a raw food diet can impact your digestion—the truth about why digestion becomes compromised!
  • Why oversimplifying food combining can spell disaster for your digestion.
  • The one natural fruit that laughs at food combining rules! A critical look at how food combining is contradicted even in nature.
  • Is there any truth behind the “watermelon/Fourth-of-July-digestive bomb” phenomenon?
  • Why a vegetable isn’t just a vegetable. Just because someone has trouble digesting raw cauliflower with bananas doesn’t mean they would have the same trouble with romaine lettuce!
  • Why a carbohydrate isn’t just a carbohydrate when it comes to digestion. Case in point: fruit carbohydrate vs. starch carbohydrate.
  • Why the stereotypical “superfood smoothie” can be great for getting people onto a healthier lifestyle, but is something most people typically should phase out later.

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Kevin: Renegade Health Radio. This is Kevin Gianni. We’re here with Fred Patenaude. Fred, what are we talking about today?

Fredric: Today I want to talk about an email that I received. Actually, it’s a comment that we received a few weeks back based on some of the podcasts or topics we talked about. I think we were talking about green smoothies. So we got an email from Ralph who said that he doesn’t like that we’re mixing fruit with the rest of the stuff like vegetables.

“Fruit should be eaten by itself before the rest of your meal, with the exception of apples and lemons, which mix well with most of the foods.” And then he also didn’t like the fact that you didn’t chew your smoothies very well Kevin, and—

Kevin: Mmm..let the blender do that.

Fredric: He didn’t approve. Now this is interesting, because food combining is kind of a theory that’s been around for a long time, and I think a lot of people kind of still follow it a little blindly. And I never heard of the idea that apples and lemons mixed with everything, some food combining thing…theories say other things. And so I kind of wanted to talk about that, because this is a common question that we get.

Kevin: Yeah, food combining. I remember talking about food combining a lot in kind of the raw food space when I was fully immersed there, and maybe you as well, Fred. And I think what happens is that everyone gets so detailed up on their diet, and so neurotic about it, that suddenly they start thinking about, “Oh wait a minute, now that my diet is so clean, what if I can make it cleaner?” And you go even deeper down into this rabbit hole of different types of food combining. You can’t eat this type of food with this type of food. You can’t have melons with steak, and all these sorts of things. And some of it I think makes sense, and some of it I think is related to just the digestive distress that a lot of people put on themselves when they go through a raw food diet. And their digestion isn’t able to actually digest the foods as voraciously as it would if they were eating a regular diet and their HCL levels were up and their enzyme levels were up, too, in their digestion.

So I think there’s a couple of variables here. And I think the first one I want to tackle is kind of like this digestive kind of issue going on. So when someone goes on an extreme diet or something like that, what happens is their…in most cases, their digestion, particularly if it’s vegan or vegan…not just necessarily vegetarian, but vegan or raw food, the digestion will dampen. It’s kind of a Chinese medicine thing, and raw foods tend to dampen digestion.

So if you’re digestion is dampened, what’s going to happen is you’re going to start to notice you can’t combine certain foods together, because it is harder for your body to digest them, because you’re just producing less HCL, so you’re producing less digestive fire.

So yes, what I think happens is a lot of people go into this place, and I believe food combining comes from the natural hygiene space, which does emphasize a lot of raw foods and kind of shifts the diet this way. So yeah, so you’re going to start to notice certain things you can’t combine. And when you look at the way that the body digests things, sugars are obviously the easiest to digest, and then fats and proteins. And Fred, actually I’m not fully on board—is it fats then proteins, or proteins then fats?

Fredric: I think it’s more the mixing of high protein food with starches that is frowned upon.

Kevin: Right. So those two are the extremes. So you’re looking at starches-slash-sugars, then fats and then proteins in terms of the digestive process. And if I’m wrong, just check me, but the combination of the ones that are on the extremes are going to be the ones that are most difficult to digest, particularly for people whose digestion is pretty weak.

So that’s kind of like where I wanted to take it first, just to kind of give a perspective on what this all looks like. Fred, what’s your take on the digestive side?

Fredric: Well, I totally agree with you that even if you do a little bit of fasting, even if you do just three or four days of fasting, the days following your fast, you’re going to notice that your digestion is weaker. If you do years of fasting, quote unquote, by eating a very strict raw food diet, your digestion is going to definitely be weaker. I know for me, that’s totally what happened for years. I was trembling with my digestion because I had lost that fire that you’re talking about. I just had to kind of rebuild it a little bit at a time.

Now with food combining in general, I think the theory definitely comes from natural hygiene, from Herbert Shelton, but I don’t know where he got it from. He probably got it from earlier hygienists. but Herbert Shelton worked in a fasting center. He was a director of a fasting center, and he was dealing with very sick people. So all of his book, where everything comes from, all of the modern food-combining advice, comes from that little book called Food Combining Made Easy, where Shelton talked about…gave a bunch of rules, and said that this is from his observations at his clinic. So he’s dealing with very sick people and he’s trying to feed them and he’s noticing that they can’t digest certain combinations, so he’s simplifying the food for them and coming up with these rules in this little book, that essentially was just a guide for his patients to follow after they left the center. And it became like a bestseller. I think it was his number one bestseller.

So for half the rules, he doesn’t give any reason for. Like he just gives a rule with no reasoning behind it. And the other half he has like a bit of reasoning and on the digestion side of it, which is really based on nothing. It’s not true because if you…it’s not true science, because the body really can digest these combinations, and the proof is that if we look at a few combinations that you’re not supposed to make, if you follow food combining, for example, and you’re not supposed to eat starches with protein, but if you look in nature, a lot of foods contain both starches and protein. All the starches contain protein. And beans contain a lot of protein. And maybe some people can’t digest them, but that’s not the reason most people can’t digest protein. It’s not the combination.

We have some food that have some fat and sugar at the same time. That’s also a bad combination, because…he didn’t necessarily say fat and sugar, but he said, “No fruit or dried fruit with high-fat foods.” So it’s kind of the same thing. But you look at several fruits have both fat and sugar. The durian has fat and sugar in it.

So did nature make a mistake? If you look at what people eat around the world, they eat these combinations. And again, I mean, his book was really meant for really sick people, and there’s no reason why you shouldn’t mix lettuce with bananas. I mean, what’s the reasoning behind it? There’s fiber…it all works well.

I threw away all of the food combining rules. I don’t know about you, Kevin. There’s a few combinations that I’ll still avoid, and we can talk about that, but I don’t follow much of it. I eat fruit after a meal now. It’s just I don’t eat a lot of it. Like of course, if you eat a big meal and then you finish it off with half a watermelon, you’re asking for trouble.

Kevin: Yeah. For me, I stick to only a few of the food combining rules and I never fully subscribed to it. I always thought it just doesn’t seem to make sense in the same way that you did. Why would there be durian and why would there be things that kind of just fly in the face of some of these rules that were created. back when Herbert Shelton was doing this and probably even before? The two that I stick to is bread and cheese.

Fredric: That’s your special rule? No bread and cheese?

Kevin: No bread and cheese combination. That’s kind of one that if I ever do kind of get into a bread and cheese situation, that’s always ridiculously bad for me. So…and that might even be gluten and lactose, so it’s not even a macro nutrient problem. It’s not a fat-slash-protein-slash-carbohydrate issue. It might be a gluten-slash-lactose issue for me. So that’s one food combination.

These are modern-day food. This is modern-day food combining. This is like real deal food combining that I’m talking about here. So that’s bread and cheese; so anything in the form of pizza or anything like that. But I mean, in any healthy diet it does make sense to stay away from things like that.

And then the second one that I do find makes a little bit of sense to me, just on a personal level, and maybe you agree with this as well, is that I do find that if I eat melons and then I eat any other type of food like melons, and then…like the whole 4th of July kind of hamburger and watermelon kind of thing…I don’t eat the hamburger and all the bun and all that sort of stuff, but if I do have some sort of grass-fed, grass-finished meat or wild poultry or something like that. and then I have melon, I just find that I burp up that melon for an extended period of time. And it tends to get very off in a very short period of time. So what that indicates to me is that the melon is so volatile and the stomach acid is breaking down very fast, and it’s also staying there and remaining in there as the protein and whatever else from the animal food is digesting in my stomach. And not only animal food, but beans or anything else that has a higher protein. It does seem that the melon, the digestion between the melon and protein or melon and fats seems to be a little bit iffy for me.

Fredric: I have a few rules as well. One of them is kind of similar to your cheese and bread. It’s not the same thing, but I just can’t do desserts, like typical desserts. Occasionally, but eating a meal…I know if I eat any meal, and then there’s the opportunity to eat like a real dessert like a cake or something after that meal, it’s always a bad idea. Especially dessert that might have dairy or butter in it. These desserts are just horrible. I just don’t do well with them. But I don’t think anybody does. Like nobody eats cheesecake after a meal and thinks, “Wow, that was a great idea.” You liked the cheesecake, but you don’t say, “Whoa, I’m so glad I ate this,” as you’re in pain.

I know certain foods, they’re unhealthy foods anyway, but in terms of the other food combining rules, like, I do eat fruit after a meal, but my meals are usually pretty simple, and I find even if the meal is cooked, even if the meal has some fat, even if the meal has starches, I can eat a piece of fruit at, not immediately after, but if I get hungry a little bit later, I’ll eat a piece of fruit or two and I’m fine. I make like, for example, I made a quinoa salad the other day, so there was quinoa cooked in vegetable broth, and then I put tomatoes, cucumber, mint, fresh mint. I put a few soaked cashews and I put blueberries. It was awesome. Everybody loved it that I served it to, and nobody had any trouble digesting it. So just the blueberries. It’s not a huge amount of sugar. It’s not a huge amount of acids.

I find these rules kind of useless; the ones about “You cannot have fruit with other foods.” Yes, you can. You can mix melons with other fruits. You can blend melons with other fruits, but maybe eating it, like you said, eating a piece of melon after heavy meal is probably not a good idea, because your meal’s already heavy, so adding something like that on top of it is not necessarily a good idea. But I think the quantity is really what matters. I know like, the combination of a lot of nuts and a lot of dried fruit is not a good combination in general, and people, especially in the raw food world who make these raw pies and they make these crusts with nuts and then they add more nuts in the filling and then there’s dried fruit and then there’s dates and a syrup, and it just never ends; like the amount of fat and sugar from nuts and fruit all in the same pie.

But I find that if you eat just a little bit, if you have like a small handful of almonds with, let’s say, an apple, or let’s say a few raisins, it’s not a problem, especially if your body needs it. If you’re hungry, if you’ve been hiking or something, it’s a great snack to have.

So I think these rules make a little bit of sense, but the science is off. It’s not exactly, there’s a little bit of truth behind the rules, but people go crazy. And if you try to never mix those foods, essentially there’s not much you can eat anymore, so of course it works as a diet, because you’re eating a salad with a baked sweet potato and that’s your meal. Of course you’re going to lose weight. Your next meal is going to be maybe some protein with a salad. So you’re eating much less than if you combine everything together. That’s why it works as a weight loss program. But over time, even people that recommended food combining rules like the Diamonds who wrote Fit for Life, they’re not following it anymore.

Kevin: That’s true. That’s very true. Harvey Diamond doesn’t follow the Fit for Life protocol anymore. And he’s public about it. He’s written books afterwards that speak against it. I mean, not speak against it, but speak differently.

So we have to be clear about, sometimes these diets are a part of the healing or health process. They’re not the end-all diet that you can use, and that’s how we feel about the raw food diets, how we feel about the vegan diet, how we feel about the Paleo diet, all these diets…they’re all tools. You use them as you can, maybe even the Atkins diet. These are all tools that you can use.

Just to check my facts back here…the starch stays…is digested, stays in the stomach the least amount of time, and then protein and then fat. So just, that’s kind of the process. And then melon and like, simple sugars and like syrups and things like that, they stay even shorter than starch.

So again, I think where a lot of this is coming from is just based simply on that knowledge of where digestion time is coming from…what the period of digestion time is. And the assumption is that if you eat a melon which stays in your digestive system; if you eat it alone for one or two hours or start in your stomach one or two hours, and then you eat fat combined with that, then it’s likely that some of that will stay in your stomach longer. And that’s kind of where this is all coming from.

Fredric: But definitely the mixing of leaves like green vegetables with fruit is not a bad combination. It doesn’t even violate the so called food-combining rules that Herbert Shelton made up, because there’s no rule specifically that said that you can’t mix lettuce with fruits. And he even served that at his clinic. So I don’t know where people are coming from with that, but it’s pretty simple.

Kevin: I also think a lot of these, particularly the leafy vegetables versus regular vegetables, I think everyone’s kind of grouping vegetables into vegetables and not doing it correctly. So like the leafy vegetables, they’re very low in complex carbohydrates, whereas fruit is high in simple sugars. There’s fructose and there’s other sugars in fruits, so you have this problem where a lot of people are thinking, “You can’t blend this stuff together and then you have to chew it because you’re not going to be able to digest the sugars together,” which doesn’t really make sense either, because the simple sugars you don’t need to chew necessarily to actually have your body digest the sugars properly; with complex carbohydrates you do.

So for instance, you need to chew something that has more complex carbohydrates, because there’s enzymes in your saliva that actually starts to break them down. But we’re not blending sweet potatoes and salad together or something like that and slurping that down. When you’re making a green smoothie, for me at least, it’s greens and it’s fruit. So that’s kind of how it comes together. So we’re not looking at this confusion between complex carbohydrates versus simple sugars that your body can easily digest that come from fruits.

Fredric: And there is a combination, though, that I kind of, I’m skeptical about, because I hear people making some green smoothies and when I watch what they’re putting in it, I’m appalled, because those are sometimes combinations I would never think about mixing together in my wildest dreams.

There was a guy on YouTube that was making this movie about what he’s eating on a vegan diet for training as a bodybuilder, and he was making this smoothie, Kevin. In the smoothie there was like bananas, there was tomatoes, greens and carrots. I mean, the horrible kind of weird mix of foods. And it’s the combination of tomatoes and bananas that kind of got me. I was like, “Dude, what are you doing putting tomatoes in a fruit smoothie?” And to me, I just think of it, and I think that you’d probably have a hard time digesting it. I don’t know why. It’s probably the old idea that you’re not supposed to mix bananas with acid fruit, but I know that I’d be okay with a smoothie with a banana and maybe, I don’t know, a kiwi in it, but tomatoes? I don’t get it? I don’t get why people are putting raw carrots in smoothies or broccoli in smoothies?

Some of these vegetables, it’s not a question of combination, it’s just a question that they’re difficult to digest raw. Too much fiber, too much of that tough fiber, especially for the cauliflower and broccoli and so on. And you put it in a smoothie, I mean it’s…I can see why some people are having trouble digesting it. It’s just maybe too much of the sulfur acid, sulfuric acid and so on that’s in the cauliflower and those vegetables. So keep it clean with fruit, green leaves. I mean, that’s what I do. If your combination sounds horrible, don’t do it. But who knows? Maybe it’s tasty, maybe it works. It probably works, but I just don’t like the idea.

Kevin: Yeah. And finally, look, I’ve put out recipes like this before, but finally, like the super food kind of green smoothie kind of thing where you put in coconut oil and maybe you put in like chocolate powder and you put in your goji berries and you put in like avocado, and what else do you put in those type of things? You kind of go crazy. And maybe a green powder, so it’s not even like real greens, like lettuce or spinach or bok choy or something that’s real watery and real delicious and you know, the flavor’s is kind of covered up with the fruits that you put in there. Those kind of smoothies they’re out the door for me. I don’t eat those types of smoothies anymore.

I think for maybe someone who’s getting into this type of thing and might want to experiment, yeah, go ahead and do some of that and get all those flavors and get all those healthy fats and all that thing. I think it’s a little too…well, I remember when everyone was putting agave syrup in their smoothies, before everyone…agave syrup kind of took this huge tank in terms of its popularity, which I think was justfully so, but everyone was kind of doing that type of smoothie a few years back, maybe even 6-7 years back. And that’s stuff kind of out the door. I don’t think that…I think we’ve realized that that type of smoothie, while it’s a cool gateway kind of smoothie drug if you will, it’s not the smoothie that I think, at least, is going to bring you to optimal health. It may mineralize you. It may give you a bunch of nutrients in a short period of time. But I think it will, over time, upset your digestion, because of way too much fat, too much sugar. And then on the other side, eventually what will happen is most people turn to regular, just simple old fruit and veggie kind of smoothie to get them to the health that they want.

Fredric: Oh yeah, I totally agree with you Kevin. One last thing is…I do think, though, that a big smoothie like that where you have fats and so on could be useful if someone really needs the calories. Maybe if you’re training for big events, you’re training for a triathlon, and you need like a smoothie that’s going to be like 1200 calories, then that’s going to be tough to do with just fruits and greens. You might even skip some of the greens and put some of the green powders and just to make it more concentrated. Put some nuts in it, puts some nut butter. But that’s exceptional. That’s when somebody’s really needing a lot of calories, and I think most of our listeners are kind of the opposite. They probably need to cut down a little bit, overall.

Kevin: And just a quick tip: I would highly recommend not even adding some of those fats into your endurance-training routine. My simple recipe for endurance training, I just put in like a little, I empty out one of those 5-hour energy bottles, just buy a couple of them, empty them out. I take about half honey, half maple syrup, then maybe a tablespoon of a little bit of Lasso chocolate powder and then about 3 or 4 pinches of sea salt and mix that together, and that’s a great during-the-run kind of energy-boosting thing. You don’t even need the fats. \

Before and after you can kind of mess around, but that’s kind of a quick little, alternative health goo. If you’ve ever seen the goo packets that people eat when they do these endurance training, that’s what I do. When we did the Tough Mother, everyone was raving about it, because it gave them a bunch of energy and there wasn’t the same crash that you’d get if you’re just eating these goo or like the stomach bomb kind of feeling when you eat all that kind of marathon or endurance crap that I think is prevailing in the market.

So anyway guys, food combining, do your own thing. Feel what works for you. I think that a lot of the stuff, as Fred and I have mentioned, is a little bit off. So don’t go too crazy about it. Don’t fall into the hype. Do what works for you and you’ll be all right.

Kevin Gianni

Kevin Gianni is a health author, activist and blogger. He started seriously researching personal and preventative natural health therapies in 2002 when he was struck with the reality that cancer ran deep in his family and if he didn’t change the way he was living — he might go down that same path. Since then, he’s written and edited 6 books on the subject of natural health, diet and fitness. During this time, he’s constantly been humbled by what experts claim they know and what actually is true. This has led him to experiment with many diets and protocols — including vegan, raw food, fasting, medical treatments and more — to find out what is myth and what really works in the real world.

Kevin has also traveled around the world searching for the best protocols, foods, medicines and clinics around and bringing them to the readers of his blog RenegadeHealth.com — which is one of the most widely read natural health blogs in the world with hundreds of thousands of visitors a month from over 150 countries around the world.

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  1. Glory J. says:

    Hi, I am responding as a recently certified health coach, who has seen food combining rules as a key element to health. While some of these rules may be overbearing, certain ones are essential for health. I teach my clients bio-individuality, so granted everyone’s physical systems are in a unique state of evolution. But nonetheless, there are some principles suitable to all.
    Most of this knowledge of combining rules is based in Ayurveda, a very ancient and successful system that is making its way back to the Earth in a more widespread way. While I think a raw food diet can be healthy for some people for a certain length of time, I think that it is not something that, for most people, should be followed for a lifetime.
    If one has been extensively eating raw foods for long periods of time, depending on one’s body, one will start to experience tremendous vata imbalance that can greatly upset digestion, stability of organs, etc. Therefore it is np wonder that if one eats all or nearly all raw that one may not be able to sense/feel the food combining issues.

    I personally think that Nature demanded our evolution in discovering fire, and then cooking our veggies and meats in order to receive and assimilate the nutrients in the foods. If one is eating entirely vegetarian, then I think that the combining of proteins and starches becomes less important. I have noticed how much better I feel when I eat only animal protein with veggies at lunch and then eat starches and veggies at dinner. I eat some raw salads and some cooked veggies. It truly is best to eat fruits as a breakfast item alone to spur on digestion for the day. Fruits can be eaten in the afternoon too as a snack. In Ayurveda, you can eat certain fruits (like apples, pineapple, maybe pear) that have been sauteed with spices and ghee……in small amts. with a meal. The spices help overcome fruit digestion issues. Milk should also be consumed boiled and not combined with anything but sweet foods—these rules are followed by many people and have produced very positive effects for many.

    While I don’t think food combining is something I would introduce first to someone currently eating a SAD diet, I would eventually get to those 3 main points on combining mentioned above. These rules can be overwhelming for many people, but these 3 rules on proteins with starches, when to eat fruit, and on boiling milk and when to drink it, are most important.

    Another thing: diet should never stifle. If one follows healthy principles 80/20 or 90/10 then one will be fine. It is important to eat what you love too- but, as we know, the healthier we become, the more our desires change and we crave healthy foods and combinations of them.

    As far as green smoothies, I think the way they are combined in the blender, and if most is apple, then this is not a problem as the blending action changes things. However, I do notice that if I use more than a few berries that it feels wrong–so I stick mostly with apples or pineapple or papaya–and I get great results in my digestion.
    –submitted by GLORY J.

  2. I have been signed up to the renegade email news letter for a number
    of years and as far as Kevin is concerned he appears to lean
    towards the weston price way of thinking .I am trying to maintain
    a vegan way of eating but apart from some health issues with my
    teeth which I am addressing i have great energy levels at age 48
    Energy wise keeping the fruit separate
    is something I usually stick to and almost always in sympathy with
    natural cyclical rhythms of the body whereby according to natural
    hygiene you have elimination/appropriation/assimilation. In keeping
    with those cycles in theory you optimize the energy of the body for
    other demands over and above digestion which takes a lot of energy.
    John Diamond had to re-evaluate his diet due being a victim of the
    agent orange lethal toxin of which I understand he is the longest
    known survivor -so he perhaps is not typical.
    And it is careless to discredit natural hygiene using him as an
    example.
    Marilyn diamond still keeps to traditional natural hygiene principals
    and it would be great to hear from her at some point.
    You do make great points about being too rigid and bending a little
    does no great harm – but nobody is average and everybody has to listen
    to their own body and develop their intuition about what is working and
    what is not.

    all the best

    mike

  3. Jennifer says:

    Listening now. Interesting conversation. In 2004 I read Fit for Life by Harvey Diamond. The day I was done I stopped eating meat. I also followed a stricter food combining than I do now. Nothing but fruit until noon, a big salad for lunch, then a cooked (vegan) dinner. Ate like this for quite a while until I had kids. Had also fasted several times, allowing my body to heal. Most food combining fell by the wayside except for the fruit. My thoughts are, since fruit digest much faster, throwing it on top of a huge cooked meal may create gas and bloating. That’s as far as I go anymore. With that said, I do blend spinach in my smoothies. Which already takes care of most of the digestion.

    As people begin to heal they are able to pinpoint more of what hurts their bodies. Rather than thinking feeling that way is normal. More sensitive and connected to their body.

    Thanks for the info!

    Always learning, forever changing
    Jennifer

  4. Daureen says:

    Interesting conversation. I do have to say we need to step away from what “sounds” horrible to what “feels” correct AND allow for exploration, which you encourage: Case in point. Maybe it “sounds” horrible to have bananas with tomatoes, but is somehow okay to have bananas with strawberries. What’s the difference? Strawberries are a red, acidic fruit just like tomatoes. One would think Strawberry ice cream is great, but would cringe at tomato ice cream, which is actually quite good. As is basil ice cream (similarly pleasant as mint). Tomato basil combos are the bomb! I believe the general rule that will work for all (if there is one) is to eat the foods that go through your systems the fastest first. If something doesn’t agree with you, avoid it. :/

  5. Joe says:

    After I did a 10 day juice fast, my digestion was the best its ever been… in fact every time I fast it comes back strong.

    I blamed poor food combining for a while, but it comes and goes regardless of how I combine my food, so I agree with you both. Perhaps it is essential for some people with compromised situations, though, as the commenter below hints at… Of course, villi damage from Gluten has to be a big one…

    Some things I would add to the conversation…

    – Over or under ripe fruit – perhaps eaten out of season.
    – Stress and lack of sleep both send my digestion haywire
    – Inactivity and to much sitting in front of the computer.

    I’ve noticed all of these play their part when I’ve had poor digestion, particulary stress.

  6. IH says:

    Personally I have found that food combining has definitely improved my digestion. I’m not rigid about it but I do apply it especially when I eat animal protein. I feel great with greens and protein so for me no starches with meat or fish. I find it also easy when I eat out. I usually just ask for more vegetables instead of the rice, pasta or potatoes.

    As for fruit, the best time for me to eat it is the morning. However, like Frederic mentioned, lately I have been enjoying a bowl of strawberries after dinner but not right away. I could see the food combining theory coming from the fact that many people in those alternative centers have messed up digestive systems to begin with and usually digestion is what we need to clean up if we want to heal.

    Since you mention green smoothies and it sounds that you guys are experts in it I was wondering what you think of the addition of hemp seeds and soaked chia seeds. Good or bad combination? I need the extra calories otherwise a green smoothie will never get me until the end of the morning.

  7. Rebecca Cody says:

    Am I weird? I prefer to read what you have to say instead of listening to a podcast. I long ago learned that most podcasts waste a lot of my time with small talk and irrelevant comments. And they seldom go into the depth I want to hear on a given topic. When someone writes their thoughts and research they get to the point and try to make things clear. So I rarely listen. When I have listened to your programs I found they have the same issues I’ve experienced with others.

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