Would You Move Here to Avoid EMFs?

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Over the years, I’ve gathered a few tools to measure electromagnetic and nuclear radiation. (Yes, nuclear was not a typo.)

I don’t consider myself a nutter, but having a Geiger counter, a Tri-Field meter and a few other measuring devices have come in handy over the years.

When people are concerned about EMFs in their (or our) homes, I bring over my Tri-Field meter to show them if they should be concerned or not. In some cases, there is real exposure, in others very little. Regardless, the results are great for their mental state. There’s nothing that squelches the fear of what we can’t see like tangible data from a meter like this — it also helps someone take appropriate action.

After the Fukushima meltdown, I also invested in a Geiger counter. Something I could use to — at least my hope — show anyone who was concerned about radiation in California what exactly was happening. Again, the fear is quickly eliminated with data.

I’m concerned about the effects of EMFs on the health of our global ecosystem, but it’s not something that paralyzes me. We’ve run some articles in the past about them and the science that shows that the technology could be harmful. (Here’s one. And another.)

Because of some of the data I’ve read, we do some things that mitigate our exposure around the house and when around cell phones. These include turning off constant notifications from smartphone apps, using a headset when talking on the phone, using ethernet cables when possible to get internet, and sleeping far away from the wireless hub (you can also turn this off in the evenings.)

Until a few weeks ago, we lived in an apartment building where there were almost a dozen wireless hubs in just one building — not including all the others on the block. Now we have a house — with an apartment building next to us, so we’re still getting blasted, but the distance is further away — meaning less EMF.

For me, putting yourself in a location that has less EMF is the best way to change your exposure — but you also need to have it fit into our own personal needs. We love city life, so staying in Berkeley is more important to us priority-wise than completely avoiding EMFs — it’s a compromise we’re willing to make.

But what if you were so sensitive, or so fearful, or so skeptical of the positive science that you wanted to completely remove yourself from EMF exposure?

A recent article on Slate.com names the place (at least in the U.S.) where you should go.

Green Bank, West Virginia.

Here’s a Google Maps snapshot:

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Here’s a picture of the main drag:

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From the article:

This remote mountainous town is inside the U.S. National Radio Quiet Zone, a 13,000–square-mile area where most types of electromagnetic radiation on the radio spectrum (which includes radio and TV broadcasts, Wi-Fi networks, cell signals, Bluetooth, and the signals used by virtually every other wireless device) are banned to minimize disturbance around the National Radio Astronomy Observatory, home to the world’s largest steerable radio telescope.

So if you want to avoid all EMF and still live in the U.S., this could be your new hometown.

After reading the article, I did a lot of thinking about moving to an isolated place like this. I wondered if we as a family could do it. I wondered if the EMF avoidance would be better or worse for my health and emotional wellbeing. I even made a list of positives and negatives that I’ll share in a bit.

My thoughts in the past have always wavered between relative isolation and relative dense city living. So this isn’t a new internal dialogue for me. We’ve recently chosen city life, but there is definitely something wildly appealing about being out in the middle of nowhere. The question, for me, is which one could I (and my family) tolerate for the longer term.

Ultimately, the decisions that we’ve made to date have always had certain sacrifices. Some of them are ones that may jeopardize some aspect of our health and lifestyle — the only hope being that there are simultaneously decisions made that will affect you positively.

These days we’ve sacrificed open space for dense neighborhoods. We’ve replaced driving with walking. We’ve added EMFs, but gained access to the best organic food in the U.S.

But what if we were sensitive to EMFs — or even just the idea of them. Or worse, what if it was determined 5 years from now that they were highly damaging to the body — could we move to Green Bank?

Here is a little of my hack analysis in case you’ve ever considered the same thing…

The Positives

1. No EMFs. If we were sensitive or our worst case scenario happened, then yes, we could live in Green Bank. We’d have to. It would be foolish to remain in a place where EMFs were hammering you all the time if you knew they were killing you.

If that were the case, the good news is, that we all could go to Green Bank and spice it up a bit — or at least double it’s population pretty quickly. Maybe even boost the economy and add more jobs.

In a non-imagined case, we truly don’t know the overall extent of damage caused by EMFs, so I wonder how important it is to completely stay away from them. For anyone who is sensitive to EMFs, it would make sense to try out an EMF free zone and see what happens, but for the undefined damage reason, I’m inclined to think that for the average person moving to just avoid EMFs is a little over the top.

(NOTE: I’d be concerned that there might be a placebo effect happening with those who are sensitive to EMFs and who move away from their existing environment — but alleviation of symptoms is alleviation of symptoms, which means all positive health benefits, regardless of how, are positive for the person.)

2. Fresh air. The mountains in West Virginia are filled with fresh air. I imagine this is a place where you can see all the stars in the sky at night with no city light pollution. Based on the Google map, I also assume there’s little traffic. I love fresh air being outside, but would this be enough to motivate me to move to such an isolated place?

3. Nature. There are areas in the country that are relatively untouched by our modern world. Green Bank, while I’ve never been there, seems like one of those places. We’ve been all over the U.S. in the RV and have seen places like Green Bank and know just how special they are — wilderness is abundant and if you like the woods, they’re there for you to explore. I’d say the access to nature is probably one of the biggest draws to a place like Green Bank — at least for me.

So is fresh air, abundant nature and no EMF enough?

The Negatives

1. Too much driving. I can’t stand driving. After our recent move two weeks ago, I’ve driven more than I have all last year. The reason now is because we’re moving things into storage, going to the hardware store and other little trips. This will dissipate in a few more weeks and get back to normal — which is driving about twice a month. The reason we moved to a city is that we could walk not drive. So moving to Green Bank, where homes are few and far between would be a no-go for us. I also unfoundedly wonder if driving is more hazardous then EMFs.

2. Isolation. Green Bank has a population of less than 200 people. This is a very small town. It’s hours from any major airport and it’s right in the middle of a national forest. If you like isolation and keep to yourself, this is perfect for you. For us, it’s like being in solitary confinement. We love being around all kinds of people and meeting all types of friends. A small town like this is just too small for us.

3. No jobs. We’re lucky, since we can run our business from just about anywhere — and in this case, from a computer plugged into an ethernet cable. Someone who needs a job when they move to a small town like this is not going to find much — and in fact, they may need to commute to a place where there is more EMF. This, of course, partially negates the reason for moving. If you’re independently wealthy, or run your own business remotely, then you can get away with moving to Green Bank or a place like it, but if not, it’s going to be a hard go.

4. Nothing there. In the article from Slate, one woman mentions there’s no grocery store, no restaurants and no hospital nearby. Yes, you can grow your own food. Yes, you can eat in all the time. Yes, if you’re eating healthy, chances are (unless you have an emergency physical injury) you don’t need to go to the hospital. But for me, I do like a little convenience built into my regular life.

5. Not a full growing season. Keep in mind, if you do want to grow your own food, there is not a year long growing season in West Virginia. You’d need a greenhouse and be proficient at canning, fermenting and likely non-vegan to be totally non-reliant on grocery stores. (Remember, there are serious snow storms in W.V. in the winter as well.)

Ultimately, the thought of us moving to Green Bank, W.V is painful. We moved out of suburban Connecticut for many of the same reasons above and couldn’t even consider being more isolated.

But, if we were very sensitive to EMFs and needed to try something different, a place like Green Bank holds enough positive that I think we could make it work.

We’d just need to make sure we convinced a few friends to make the move with us.

Your question of the day: Could you live in Green Bank, W.V.? (Do you live there or somewhere like it?) Why?

Live Awesome!
Kev

Kevin Gianni

Kevin Gianni is a health author, activist and blogger. He started seriously researching personal and preventative natural health therapies in 2002 when he was struck with the reality that cancer ran deep in his family and if he didn’t change the way he was living — he might go down that same path. Since then, he’s written and edited 6 books on the subject of natural health, diet and fitness. During this time, he’s constantly been humbled by what experts claim they know and what actually is true. This has led him to experiment with many diets and protocols — including vegan, raw food, fasting, medical treatments and more — to find out what is myth and what really works in the real world.

Kevin has also traveled around the world searching for the best protocols, foods, medicines and clinics around and bringing them to the readers of his blog RenegadeHealth.com — which is one of the most widely read natural health blogs in the world with hundreds of thousands of visitors a month from over 150 countries around the world.

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  1. charlotte says:

    What about chemtrails. Just heard a presentation from a
    researcher who lives on 2000 acres in the forest near a large lake
    in California He sees chemtrails over his property all the time.
    There is no place to hide.

  2. Sarah says:

    I see a day in the future when building materials will include floors or wall to wall carpets made of grounding material so that even if there are EMFs about, if you are touching the grounding material, it won’t affect you.

    • crosswind says:

      Me too, Sarah. I’m married to a Software engineer who i was just telling this to the other day. Plus, he grew up in W.VA. He never wants to go back again. Too isolated from hospitals and stores and he hated the mudd and snow on winding hills. He doesn’t think I could handle the winding roads every day. I did get pretty dizzy driving down the mountain.. LOL. Where he grew up (not Green Bank) many people were on drugs, pot un-motivated, lazy and he said it was depressing. But, when he took me back there to his home town, it was Gorgeous greenery and mountains near the river. He said W.VA has some of the best growing dark soil though. His family always had a big vegetable garden and did do canning. His father hunted deer for his family to survive, but he hates hunting, so he did not join in that with his father.

  3. Nice article.
    I like everything about the article except one thing.
    We don’t need to wait 5 years to “determine” if emfs
    and wireless radiationf from wireless technologies (IE:
    cell phones/wifi/ ipods/ baby monitors/cordless tele, ect)
    are dangerous.
    All of the studies NOT funded by the telecoms document
    the true harm this technology causes to all life.
    To those who think its only a few people who are sensitive?
    Didn’ t you write quiet a bit about candida?
    And didn’t you have quite a battle with it?
    I guess you are not aware that wireless radiation and emfs
    multiply toxins by 600%. (see Dr. Klinghardt’s info)

    Toxins don’t know if they are sensitive or not…
    they don’t have an opinion.
    Just the same, they multiply when IN the field of emfs
    and they don’t multiply like that, when NOT in the field of emfs.
    If that isn’t a big neon warning sign, I don’t know what is.

    But I do know this:
    Everyone IS effected by wireless radiation.
    The only difference is, there are those who recognize this,
    and those who don’t.
    Either someone is pregnant or they are not.
    either something IS toxic, or it is not.

    Radiation is radiation. It is a toxin and like all toxins,
    it is an accumulative toxin, it adds up every day.
    The formula is: dose/duration/proximity.
    There is no safe dose.

    As for eating organic and healthy food?
    Has it occurred to you that food exposed to cell phone radiation
    is being nuked? Bet you don’t use a microwave oven.
    But somehow, people believe that eating organic food
    while using a radiation device, doesn’t contaminate their food.

    P.S.
    While a trifield is useful, it is not the best meter for measuring Radio Frequency radiation.
    Get yourself a cornett meter. Or another kind that is designed to measure radiation.

    Elizabeth Thode

  4. Yvonne says:

    You could move to Ecuador where Matt and Angela (The Raw Food World couple) lives, it is warm and you could grow your own food all the time. You would have to learn Spanish, but maybe you already speak it? I used to have a dream to live like that, grow my own food. That was 40 years ago. *sigh* Now I shop at a Farmers Market instead. But you know, if there was a natural disaster, like the Japanese reactor stuff coming to California and everybody had to evacuate, I think everybody would rather survive than not, even if it meant to live in West Virginia. And if you would have solar panels and a hybrid car, you could drive your car without worrying about damaging the environment. If you would settle down in a climate with 4 seasons, you would have to get a green house in the shape of a globe. They don’t require much heating or cooling thanks to the shape. You could have an aquaponic gardening inside there and would basically only require a small battery to make the water circulate, not much power at all. The battery could run on solar power also. And if you collected rain water and lived in an “Earth House”, you would be all set for survival! Earth Houses maintain the same indoor temperature the year around. There are ppl who already do live like this, in the US (I have seen youtube videos).

  5. i WOULD STAY PUT WHERE ALL MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND CONTACTS ARE AND GET SOME EQUIPMENT TO NEUTRALIZE ELECTRO MAGNETIC FELDS AND WIRELESS. ITS COSTS ABOUT $1000 TO EQIP A LARGE HOME WITH EVERYTHING BUT ITS CHEAPER THAN LEAVING ALL YOU HAVE AND LIKE.
    I COULD NOT TOUCH A PHONE OR COMPUTER OR TV A AFEW YEARS AGO AND IN DESPERATION I BOUGHT EVERYTHING THIS COMPANY HAS. IT WORKED. SO I STARTED SELLING IT ON THE WEB SITE . SOME PEOPLE BUY ONE THING AND SAY ITS NO GOOD THEN THEY SPEND YEARS ROAMNG AROUND LOOKING FOR A SAFE PLACE .THEY CANT WORK WHILE THEY ARE TRAVELING ABOUT AIMLESSLY ITS CHEAPER TO GET IT ALL AND STAY PUT .
    daliya@nontoxic.com

  6. Leonora says:

    I am in no way trying to spread fear porn here. But there
    was just recently a huge scientific fact based document / internet
    document that shared the REAL effects of Fukushima and how food in
    California in the next few years will be too poisonous to eat. You
    can use your geiger meter all you wish but you are not out testing
    the soil where all your organic food is grown from the past years
    up until today. The 3rd Nuclear reactor in Fukushima is toast and
    we are going to see the effects of that one in the near future.
    Everything along the West Coast all that food all the lovely
    organic vegetables and fruits will be inedible or will cause
    serious health effects if eaten, organic or not. It is the soil
    that is poisoned and nothing you can do about that. I wish I had
    kept the report with actual science measurements and facts to this
    information and I will do all I can to research and find this….
    if you truly wish to keep your health moving out of the West Coast
    is the way to go. Arctic is not safe lol… alot of children are
    having serious health problems right now in the arctic. If I had to
    choose the safest place on the planet, there are certain pristine
    organic areas in Ecuador. Just keeping it real. I don’t know if you
    can use your geiger meter or other measuring devices in the soil
    where your food is grown but that is the perfect indicator to test
    the soil as well as the food if you possibly can do so. I think all
    the devices you are sharing Kevin are measuring only what is
    happening with the technology (EMF) and such and not the actual
    water or soil or food. That is the key. This is about what you are
    ingesting and what condition is the food you are ingesting.
    Fukushima has done way more damage than anyone is going to share.
    Especially to the West Coast. There is a famous person who is not
    sharing that they were exposed to serious radiation living on the
    West Coast and not coming forward and still going around in movies
    / documentaries talking about health and such and not admitting
    their personal serious event related to serious radiation poisoning
    which gave them grave health issues…. they were fortunate to have
    enough money and the right person come forward to assist them with
    their radiation illness, Lucky. Most people do not have the funds
    or the connections to save their life like they did. You don’t and
    won’t hear about it because they would lose money because they are
    a guru who talks about health and wealth and they did not come
    forward to admit their own serious issue… sadly it is always
    about money and fame before truth. There are very few places you
    can go to get tested for radiation poisoning in your body and when
    you finally do get tested it is almost too late to reverse or cure
    this which will become the true health issue of the very near
    future. I am speaking truth and I would love to share my facts I
    just have to find the science tested facts I just read before I
    post them. Many many studies have been done to test the soil and
    the food in the Coast area and it is not good and getting worse due
    to Fukushima. Just being real. Blessings.

  7. CORRECTING SPELLING AND SORRY FOR LARGE PRINT .I AM NOT SHOUTING .CANT SEE WELL.

    I WOULD STAY PUT WHERE ALL MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND CONTACTS ARE AND GET SOME EQUIPMENT TO NEUTRALIZE ELECTRO MAGNETIC FIELDS AND WIRELESS. ITS COSTS ABOUT $1000 TO EQUIP A LARGE HOME WITH EVERYTHING BUT ITS CHEAPER THAN LEAVING ALL YOU HAVE AND LIKE OR NEED. (INCLUDING DOCTORS AND DENTISTS AND HEALTH FOOD STORES )
    I COULD NOT TOUCH A PHONE OR COMPUTER OR TV A FEW YEARS AGO AND IN DESPERATION I BOUGHT EVERYTHING THIS COMPANY HAS. IT WORKED. SO I STARTED SELLING IT ON THE WEB SITE . SOME PEOPLE BUY ONE THING AND SAY ITS NO GOOD THEN THEY SPEND YEARS ROAMING AROUND LOOKING FOR A SAFE PLACE .THEY CANT WORK WHILE THEY ARE TRAVELING ABOUT AIMLESSLY. ITS CHEAPER TO GET IT ALL AND STAY PUT . MEASURING WITH METERS DOES NOT HELP . NEUTRALIZING DOES AND THIS EQUIPMENT DOES NOT CHANGE THE GAAS METER BUT IT CHANGES THE WAY YOU RECEIVE THE CURRENTS .CALL ME AT 1 800 968 9355 IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE. YES I SELL THIS .
    daliya@nontoxic.com

  8. John Wright says:

    Well your article is interesting, but I live in the country
    and am now a man who has lymphoma cancer and after going through 6
    two day chemo therapy sessions every third week and am in remission
    shows your health can screw you over. Especially if you or one of
    your family got hurt or needed to get to a hospital quick. Now I
    just trust God when my number is up I will be going no matter where
    I am. Also I used to live in the city of San Diego, I just miss the
    convenience of shopping centers to find what I want. Things here
    are expensive and also hard to find. Thanks to our greedy
    government and them also letting wall street run the cost of
    barrels of oil up, Fuel is costly and getting things shipped here
    to our small town are costly. In fact the whole world is filled
    with greedy children of the devil that is why we are in this mess.
    I honestly believe there are two families on earth now. Gods
    children and the devils kids. This is not religion, but
    relationship facts. Those who do good most of the time and those
    who do evil most of the time. Their fruits show which family they
    come from. I belong to the family of Jesus, thanks to his grace of
    being adopted.

  9. Rose D says:

    Hi Kevin,
    I’ve been living in Berkeley for several years, and I do love it. But impending global changes have changed my mind about staying in the city. After taking some Permaculture classes, I almost bought a property near the Oregon border, then reconsidered. The change would be too big – isolation, difficult access, no medical facility and no community. So now I’m going for a place in the foothills, which will be in Nature but only 3-4 hours from the Bay Area. One of my big considerations is the high-voltage power-lines that criss-cross our beautiful state and emit emfs all over. Add to that the cell masts with their emfs.
    Berkeley Bowl and the Farmers’ markets are amazing… I’ll grow as much of my food as I can, where-ever I land, and come visit the Bay Area as often as possible.
    Thanks for all you do for us – the Healing Cancer summit was amazing.

  10. Kev- Single mom’s do stuff like that all the time, often to
    flee an abuser, and with one kid on her back, more times than not.
    It might take a little planning is all. Think about that awhile,
    with no spouse to help out. Luv to all, Jo

  11. Ingrid says:

    Kevin, I just love you to bits .. I’ve read the whole EMF
    discussion which, it seems to me, you had with yourself but, thank
    goodness, were willing to share with the rest of us. I live in
    Canada and my chances of moving to West Virginia, as beautiful as
    it is, are slim. However, we do have similar places to live/move
    to. Your ‘arguments’ are all very valid and I truly have nothing to
    add except my thanks to you for taking the time to publish your
    thoughts and considerations. We human beings are adaptable, hence
    the survival of our species to this point in time. I’m sure the
    ‘trend’ will continue where some of us will adapt and survive and
    others of us not. I have no issues with that. It seems that is the
    way we have evolved over time. Sending you thanks and love for your
    considerate ‘assessment’ Ingrid

  12. It’s true that living in a remote area such as the one you describe. However, is there no Chemtrailing over that 13,000 square mile area? Because if there is, it’s almost not worth all the sacrifices because one would only be trading one serious health risk for another. Of course with Chemtrailing, it does not matter where you live because all those heavy metals, radioactive barium and , now scientifically confirmed, filaments which are known as Morgellons from which many suffer. Keep in mind also, that all food organic or not needs to be grown in a green house if we are going to be as sure as possible that we are eating healthy, wholesome food. For me…I am going to start with Earthing and a really good indoor air filter.

  13. Ann Wooledge says:

    Nice discussion Kevin. I grew up very near this area and am so much the better for it. I wandered through the forests my entire childhood and loved seeing mountains each day. This is probably why I’m such a nature lover and love being outdoors, something we seem to have in common. It is a beautiful state and much under appreciated. I wanted to let you know about the telescope at Green Bank and a decision now being considered to close it down. I’m sharing a link to a local news station and would ask that everyone would please sign the petition to stop this from happening. Thanks very much! http://www.wvgazette.com/News/201302010107

    • Ktmm says:

      Thanks for the posting! I’ve been to Green Bank, WV to see the Radio Astronomy Observatory. I will be signing the petition and sharing. It was an interesting experience going there.

  14. Super Bee says:

    I have lived in many places/towns/cities/states, but have been in Tucson AZ now for about 22 years. I am considering another move, but it is a difficult and very complex decision for me. I look at astrocartography for one thing: astrological analysis can help you find a place compatible with your natal chart influences.
    Also i am a HSP (Highly Sensitive Person- see Dr. Elaine Aron, author) so i am very drawn to quiet and peaceful places, but the rural cultures are generally more hostile to the HSP personality than a more diverse city cultural environment.
    I am also concerned about possible disasters, economic collapse, runs on banks, electrical grid failure, coastal flooding due to global warming, earthquakes, WW3, etc. We live in an extremely interdependent culture/economy. If the system breaks down, how will city people even manage to get water or food without electricity and fuel to deliver it to the houses and stores? In regard to disaster preparedness, rural or small town is generally considered best.
    Cities tend to also have more air and water pollution. Cities also have more noise pollution. Cities are also more vulnerable to the spread of any epidemics. Big cities are also more likely nuclear targets. Cities also have more psychic pollution emanating from the large number of people concentrated there.
    Also when moving one should consider: climate, population density, private land availability, land and urban planning laws, food production capacity of the region, politics of the region, taxes, corruption of the area, crime rate, personal freedom, gun liberty, alternative medicine laws, military targets, proximity of nuclear power plants, employment opportunities, etc.
    So back to EMF’s. I think they should be taken into consideration, but probably not a major factor in most people’s decision about where to live. Too many other compelling factors.

    • Lenites says:

      I don’t think small towns are hostile to HSPs (highly sensitive persons). I’m one, living in a small town. They might be more hostile to talks about astrology since small town folks are generally more traditional and religious than in larger cities.

  15. reen says:

    If I lived in a city of any size I would move there in a heart-beat. There is much more to consider than EMFs when deciding to leave the city for your health, food and spiritual growth. It takes much organization and planning and self-discipline to live in the country, but you are far better off. You will learn about yourself, your Creator, and your family by becoming self-sufficient through hard work; and there is nothing more important. Children, and even adults 🙂 learn to be creative and learn to THINK, which is something almost archaic these days.

  16. Kevin, I am highly sensitive to EMF’s and it was ruining my health. So I tried everything. With technology causing EMFs there comes technology to help relieve the effects of EMFs in our environment.
    I lived out in the middle of nowhere and I don’t like it. I prefer to be around people and have places to walk etc. I found a place on the internet called http://www.Safespace.com . It has electrical protection for cell phones, whole house systems, personal protection (a pendant) that I wear whenever I”m in close proximity to wi fi or routers or with my hands on the computer or while driving (hands on the wheel pick up the EMF vibrations from the motor) or in airports. I wear it when I’m talking or handling a cell phone. I can live a normal life and not have to hide out away from civilization. It was a fluke that I found out that I react to EMF’s . But once I knew what was going on I was able to search the internet and find help. I would get anxiety attacks when in the presence of the checkout computers at the store.

    • crosswind says:

      Thank you, Jeanne!!! for the safe place link. I need to check that out too. I am sensitive to EMFs. I used to wear an beautiful little sterling EMF protection necklace, but i lost the protective piece on travel 🙁 When I save up money again, i will buy another one. It can be worn when sleeping too!! It absorbs & neutralizes the EMF, instead of your body absorbing it. The brand i bought was Q-Link. .. @ EMF-Health.com and they have plug in devices too.

    • ginger says:

      your link for safespace.com didn’t work. i checked it out and came across safespaceprotection.com. it looks like it is the one you meant.

  17. LynnCS says:

    I live in a small town on the coast of Oregon. We only have a few stores and all resources are limited. There is only one way out So. and one way out No. In case of an earthquake or other disaster, we would likely be isolated for some time, wo medical care or very limited unless flying us somewhere would be an option. Even the inland cities here say that they would be in the same boat. I am not prepared. It is a lovely place to live, but one should get veeery prepared. I need to start with food/water and first aid.

    I could live anywhere, but wouldn’t want to live in a city/busy location ever again. Too much chaos for me. I don’t want to require much. Peace…I require peace. Good air, peace, a little open space, good vegis and again, peace.

    I love that you and AnnMarie have found a little place to rent that suits you. Check out a lot of areas and look carefully into what really goes on there before you buy. Then enjoy it.

  18. Kate B. says:

    Maybe it’s time to start collecting names and contact info
    of folks (like yourself) who work from home and have a desire to
    live the ultimate lifestyle. (In fact, I’ve been saying this for at
    least the last 5 years.) Those of us who are uber health aware AND
    have the freedom to live anywhere should start a community
    somewhere together… possibly even bring enough people together to
    buy an island or lots of land in Belize, Ecuador or on this island
    I’ve been looking into off the cost of Honduras. Then we can BECOME
    a community, have land to produce all the food we desire and be off
    the grid, too. It seems that what holds so much of us back is the
    isolation, loss of community and … let’s face it… it’s tough to
    go it alone and there is so much to do if you are going to do it
    all by yourself or your own small family. But if you pool the
    resources it could be marvelous. Collective intelligence,
    collective resources, collective energy. If anyone else is truly
    interested in what I suggest feel free to contact me and I’ll add
    you to my list. So far I have a handful of people and I’m
    personally getting ready to do something with my own family if if
    everyone else still isn’t ready yet.

  19. Carole says:

    I have this dialogue often as well. I live lake front in very northern Illinois with my daughter, so we are a little removed. But, I had to relent and get a wireless router in the house. I don’t like it, but like you said, we can’t be hermits either. like Sarah’s idea!

    We have to live a life that is fulfilled. We can’t feel like we have to sacrifice everything in order to live longer – that is not living.

  20. Linda Park says:

    I would certainly relocate to a more remove area, but certainly not in the USA. I think it’s government ‘STINKS’ and hate it’s politics. I would move to a beautiful area like Costa Rica or Panama.

  21. mary says:

    I lived for 6 months northwest of Green Bank and in that brief time experienced the following:
    1. Generous, loving people in the next farm (2 hills away) and everywhere I went
    2. A tornado
    3. Perfect health
    4. Potatoes are grown in “hills”
    5. Beets must be thinned so they’ll stay round
    6. Corn will flatten out in a tornado, but pops back upright when the storm passes
    7. Snow is cold
    8. One must learn to “put back” food (that means canning) for winter
    9. A strong ax is needed for chopping wood
    10. Unless you are a hermit, you will miss seeing people
    11. You’ve got to really plan those shopping trips wisely; stores are few and far between
    12. Watched a sheep shearing
    13. Ate wild mushrooms, berries, poke week and other wild edibles
    14. Planted tomatoes, carrots, beets, asparagus
    15. Learned to embroider crewel work during the snowy season.
    16. Watched NO TV
    17. I’ve never loved California more than when I was in West Virginia in the middle of winter

  22. As for EMF (exposure to):
    Wouldn’t the idea of greating a device (portable-light) that could adequately deflect/detour or “change” the resultant negative consequences of being exposed to EMF to something harmless be the “bonanza” invention of these times? That said, I am no candidate for such research/invention as I’m no “techie” or am I gifted in scientific pursuits, though I do a lot of research/reading on wellbeing: on cellular biology/orthomolecular medicine/alternative medicine/natural products. I read a lot of books/ texts. There is a lot of great info out there; but monographs are unavoidably important. I do this in several languages as I have a degree in Modern World Languages from the University of Washington (won a scholarship to Salamanca. Spain in ’92 for designing and implementing immersion-style world language classes for Washington State’s earliest, eager learners. (i.e. they could listen, speak, write, cognate and research (computers) with the langauge by the sixth grade)
    The Univeristy of Salamanca is one of Europe’s oldest universities and was known for natural pharmaceuticals. In the Middle Ages, one could go to a local pharmacy in Salamanca and get a tea/poultice/herb or spice that may well alleviate your ailment right on the spot-often made up for you there. that said, U of Salamanca was also known for Ethics and their Law faculty. They house all of Cristopher Columbus’ journals in their library (under glass). The law faculty @ U of Salamanca during those heady years of “Discovery” (mostly, Franciso Vittoiro) looked with great alarm on what the “conquistadores” wrought on the “New Land” ; and insisted on this legal premise: “creyentes o no, merecen derechos humanos” (Believers or not, all inhabitants merit human rights!) Wow! the concept “Human Rights” dating back to the 15th Century…
    I do my wellbeing research in English, Spanish-lots of great products being discovered in “Las Americas”-especially around the Amazon Basin. Spanish is a great research tool! I also research in Italian; they have a program in Italy called “Tuttobenessere” means “wellbeing on all front”s: emotional, pyschological, physical, spiritual, inspirational… The Italian TV station RAI airs this: info given by medical professionals/researchers from all over Italy who gather and discuss their findings… I also use Swedish as Italian and Swedish are my heritage languages. My parents Mom-of Italian heritage (Seattle); Dad, of Swedish heritage (Spokane, Washington) only spoke English in our home (Seattle); so I learned these languages @ university. As a child I heard my greandparents speak these fabulous languages and fell in love with world languages then.
    Back on topic: EMF concern us all. Again, moving is not practical for most of us so why not invent product that could minimize possible harm?
    Love your e-mails/website
    Sincerely,
    Victoria Jager Kenna
    It would be great to get a reply.
    My Mom’s Italian name before officals persuaded Grandpa Guiseppi to change it to an easier name to prnounce was “Chiaciaro” -means “to happily chat-exchange news of import”. It got changed to “Wooley” in Seattlle.
    My maiden name is Jager; and married name Kenna

    • Kitty says:

      Being extra sensitive “Canary” myself. I agree we need a
      shield to protect us from emfs and other pollutions. Thinking I was
      out in the country away from big city problems here in WV I got hit
      with fireplace smoke and methlab pollution. My solution was whole
      house sheild provided by Creative Health Ventures in Arizona. This
      gives me a haven in my own home to get rest between exposure
      outside my home.

    • Hi there Victoria, your letter is very ‘Newsy’ indeed, and I think you are more ‘techie’ than you realise. if you won a scholarship to go to the Salamanca Univercity in Spain for designing an immersion-style world language classes programme for Washington State’s earliest, eager learners.That in itself is a great innovation for kids to become interested in all languages (ancient or modern.) Well done!……….now you just have to ‘bend’ your wavelength of thinking, and You could come up with something to elimminate the EMF’s. Or perhaps your letter has already inspired someone to develop such a device. At least something we can all afford, and not like the very expensive ones on sale now. ‘Twas good to read about the Italian programme called “Tuttobenessere” Should be shown world wide. To finish off~ grandfather ‘Guiseppi’ should have changed his name to “Chitchat.” At least it is more meaningful to Pops original “Chiaciaro.” But Wooley!. Just wondering if papa had lots of whiskers. Kind Regards~Dorothy.

  23. Marilyn says:

    If the most important thing to you is a healthier life then
    go for this change. I am 2nd generation born in the US (now 65 yrs.
    young). All 4 of my grandparents came from Eastern Europe.
    Grandparents on my Dad’s side bought property from the railroad
    (check history for how that worked if you don’t already know) and
    that was the end of the money they had. It was ‘raw’ undeveloped
    land, pretty much out in no where. This is where I grew up–Pend
    Orielle County, Washington State (northeastern part of the state).
    (Check this out to see what it is like even today–no Dr. in the
    county, a small hospital, miles from Spokane, etc.) Grandpa somehow
    (I assume had the help of a couple brothers) cleared land, built a
    sizable house, a nice middle sized barn, made 2 wells…..and
    worked at a local sawmill about 5 miles away, and walked there and
    back. They had cows, chickens, rabbits, a large garden and he
    established a fruit orchard,raspberries and grapes and hops, and a
    cellar under the house. There was a small general store, by the
    sawmill and the railroad, for things they didn’t have (again, about
    5 miles away). They would go by horse and buggy. Sounds like they
    had money to establish all of that, but no, they didn’t, they just
    worked hard. I don’t understand how they could have done all this.
    I guess no TV, phones or computers etc. makes the big
    difference–plus the government was not making us jump through all
    kinds of hoops back then, so everyone had more time than we do now.
    This property is 3/8 of a mile from the ‘county road’ so everything
    had to be stored and/or canned and put into the cellar for winter.
    Winter can be really tough, and in the winter you can only walk out
    (plowing only makes it worse–it drifts over and even today the car
    or truck gets parked at the end of the road. Have walked a lot of
    groceries and babies up and down that driveway–and spring mud and
    washout-YUC! We had a wood kitchen stove with the associated hot
    water tank. When I was really young there was no
    refrigerator/freezer in the house, no phone or TV, electricity
    would go out in bad weather. And I could go on….. Your wife and
    kids have to be on board and contribute or it is not possible. But
    it is a GOOD AND REWARDING life!! NATURE AND GREAT FOOD. Today you
    have so many things to help that were not available a century ago
    so that it is not as hard–but it is real and possible–and again
    rewarding. But yes there are trade offs. I love the life I grew up
    in. Unfortunate today I live south of the Seattle/Tacoma
    metropolitan area–AARRGGHH!! because of employment issues. Miss my
    ‘old’ life! The rural communities are usually close and
    supportive/helpful but not usually social. Myself, I love isolation
    and that really helps (if I can see or hear my neighbor, it’s too
    close). We have become such a spoiled and dependent society. For
    most people a lot of money is a must to move out of the city to
    make it work. Most people seem to think that they are far enough
    ‘out there’ just by being a mile outside of suburbia??? It’s not.
    It is an improvement though! not putting it down.

  24. Neil Hunter says:

    Hi Kevin, There is good reason to be concerned about all
    the EMF/R exposure in our environment…but we can’t all run away
    and hide. We need to stand up to the “Smart Meter” roll out and
    educate ourselves about the health risks from the meters , “Dirty
    Electricity” and other forms of radiation. I feel it’s important to
    work on the community level and stand up to Utility companies and
    other corporate entities that value profit over health and the
    environment. There is alot that we can do…first is to research
    the topics and see the different ways you can minimize the effects
    of these envionmental pollutants. I suggest people google EMR –
    Electromagnetic Radiation and Smart Meters and see all the links
    and websites that are available. Here is a great website that a
    friend just shared with me http://www.emractionday.org/science Very
    timely for Earth Day/Week. Thanks for all the great information
    that you share. Enjoy your new home. Neil

  25. Kitty says:

    I live about 2hrs from Greenbank in Webster County WV. Have
    explored the area for “Canaries.’ It is beautiful and there is no
    traffic. I heard today, from a resident of Marlington, WV same
    County, that the goverment may close down the radio telescope,
    which is the reason there are limits on the cell towers . I have no
    verificaation on this. However, you can imagine what will happen if
    this happens.

  26. Eva van Loon says:

    When moving back to Canada from Hawai’i, I chose Powell
    River, a historic city of 16,00o to 20,000 situated two ferries and
    a hundred miles from Vancouver, BC, five hundred miles from
    Hanford, WA, protected from tsunamis and storms by Vancouver
    Island, and smack dab in the middle of both the most spectacular
    coastal scenery anywhere (along with some hot eco-issues regarding
    pipelines and LNG tankers, which none of us here wants and everyone
    will fight against). PROs? Lots of woods and wildlife, mild weather
    (maybe two millimeters of snow all winter), the capacity to grow
    everything from peaches to nuts (but not grain in large amounts),
    great pro-active Transition-town community with its own currency,
    magazine, radio station and uncommon “Chamber of Commoners”, cheap
    property, vintage craftsman-era houses, tiny school district with a
    visionary Superintendent, a bit of a university, two ESL schools,
    immersion French school, forward-looking indigenous community, bus
    system, oldest continuously running movie house in Canada,
    theaters, drama groups, four secular choral groups, world-class
    choral festival (Kathaumixw), summer classical music festival,
    incredible literacy council, a nascent publishing industry, great
    restaurants, a big hospital, a dog park, a new SPCA shelter,
    Farmers’ Markets, home-grown greens, eggs, and meat, peace and
    quiet, stars at night. And Quality Foods and Mitchell’s Grocery,
    two responsive food suppliers. And a support system for local
    business called Sustainability Stakeholders. CONs? BC Hydro wants
    to smart-meter us (they’re losing). Island Timberlands wants to
    clear-cut us (over our dead bodies!) Our provincial government is a
    bunch of boneheads (but there’s an election in a few weeks). Our
    federal government is a gang of rightist thugs. The ferries cost
    money. Yes, we have wi-fi. We see chem trails. And it
    rains…often. We need more people. We figure that at 20,000, we’re
    about 10K short of critical mass to run this much good stuff in a
    community without running ourselves ragged. If you’d like a
    friendly, inexpensive place close to the wild but not too far from
    so called civilisation, where innovation and independence are still
    possible and you can be of real service to the community, check out
    Powell River, BC.

  27. Gary Collier says:

    Get earthing gear, and you won’t need to worry about EMFs. There are worse things afoot, anyway….

  28. Jacqueline says:

    I live in the Upper Peninsula of MI….a Yooper, eh? I have
    a huge garden (under a foot of snow now) I do a lot of canning
    including venison and wild turkey. Tonight I will be watching the
    northern lights from my back deck, and the only sound I will hear
    is maybe a coyote in the distance…..loving it!

  29. Hi Kevin and family,I have moved from the French alps to
    nyc 24 years ago. Married 13 years to my American Japonese husband
    from suburbian Chicago who loves nature, travel, skiing, hiking
    good food.I love nature the same way with horse back riding
    randonnees I have experience in my young adult life and, miss
    dearly and at times hope to someday go back to in a more remote
    town… however after having a child , 10 this early May, who l
    oves nature sports and his organic food and understand the issues
    of leaving healthy because we had to protect his own health, each
    time we are in remote lovely places such as Montana, Big Sky skiing
    recently which I fell in love,I remind myself what I would miss…
    although we homeschool now so we can accommodate health and travel
    and the live off exploring , learning together,I am still torn to
    what I would miss and remember what I was looking for, hoping for
    in my early 20s when I moved in nyc. After spending as much time in
    France and in the NYC , traveling the country too so not be just in
    the NY mentality,I can honestly say that none of the both life
    style satisfied the needs and having both of the best world would
    be ideal just not in our financial reach. However, after our child
    it was clear to me that nature would be a plus if not right away,
    since after more nature adventure and world exploration was needed
    to fulfill his thirst for the nature world and his health,I can
    honestly say that I’d move for the experience and not regretting
    having done and offering the what if… it is still brewing in our
    thoughts trying too figure out how to make it work out . Also
    realistic in thinking that it wouldn’t be necessarily for ever,
    that we could just move back or elsewhere if needed to be… It
    isn’t a straight forward answer as you can see but more of a
    process in which you are able to progressively look at the
    possibilities.I hope this make sense and help you if anything. My
    motivation of course had a lot to do with my child’s needs and
    desires and our aspiring views to protect mother nature and be
    living with and in it.I live art and museums, science halls and
    philosophy, music and theater, but healthy food and environmental
    health, activism is still on top of our list and has to be for pure
    child’s future…so… yes, I’d move and we might and… Virginia
    is gorgeous. Now , you need to know that I love to drive not so
    much . my husband but loves his motorcycle so technically still
    loves to drive. whatever decision, it isn’t the end of it and your
    child my benefit greatly and pull you right back in city life soon
    our later! Lol Isabelle PS Noone expect my mother ever beloved I’d
    in nyc or could ” survive it”. They projects their on fear.I
    instead was looking for more and knew I’d be challenged. Change can
    difficult but it takes us being what we know if b ourselves and
    transform us. There is no garanties only guts feeling decisions
    after the facts. Living freely our aspirations and applying them
    isn’t always easy… With a young child gives yourselves time for
    free years then see if you still feel the, same about it.I would
    rush it not throw out out either!:)

  30. correction…I  would not rush into it nor throw out
    the idea either!:)

  31. I know that town well because my sister and her family ran a Vegan Organic Bed and Breakfast for many years. I visited often. Charming once you get there through the winding and switch back roads up the mountain. The observatory was a source of income for them as they also served dinners to Observatory guests and well as offered lodging. lovely place. It was sold to a private residence last year however… but I thought it was fun to visit.
    Kathleen

  32. Lynn says:

    I could stand the isolation, the area is beautiful. I am
    guessing that most people in the area either work for the coal
    mines or the government. I would pick a different location though.
    People tend to be a bit cliquish in WVA.If I did not mind cold,
    Montana or Alaska. Looking for warm? Probably soutwest Texas or
    Winnemucca Nevada (not that warm, snow does not get deep though).
    Where as it is cheap to fly out of El Paso, you would need to live
    100+ miles away. Organics? Not like you have in your area, unless
    you grow your own.

  33. Diana says:

    But, Kevin, the article concludes – with scientific “blind”
    tests – that these folks aren’t EMF sensitive. These studies
    weren’t by telecom industries. It seems pretty clear that, at least
    with some, it’s a placebo effect … or some other malady entirely
    that isn’t diagnosed by the crazy medical establishment. The
    explanation of the two difference kinds of electrical fields is
    quite straightforward. I am not a nay-sayer, by any means. I have
    had my home evaluated for EMFs by a professional, have protected
    myself against the stupid electronic meter that was installed
    against my protests, don’t use Bluetooth, turn my wifi off and am
    in the process of going back to direct lines rather than wifi, etc.
    When I originally read this myself in Slate the other day, I was
    surprised that more questions were raised in my mind than I
    anticipated. I was a believer before, but now … not so
    much.

  34. Catherine says:

    I’m tired tonight, maybe from all the EMF exposure. 🙂 If it’s not one thing it’s another. Do your best to live healthy wherever you are, and don’t stress about it all. I think stress is more harmful than anything. Peace everyone, and good night.

  35. Bob Blum says:

    I could live there, Kevin, but I don’t think I would move just because of emf reasons. Perhaps if I or anyone in my family had a serious sensitivity (physical or mental) to the stuff I might consider it. Growing food under those extreme conditions could become a positive (like providing an income–one of your “cons”). The seven levels of gardening make growing anywhere possible… and you can still remain a vegan, if you want.

  36. I AM says:

    I live in an enchanted mango forest on the Big Island of
    Hawaii. Far off the grid on solar with rain water catchment
    striving to be sustainable and living organically on my homestead.
    I do have internet supplied through a wire that runs up to a
    wireless radio receiver 70 feet up in the top of a mango tree. In
    the house everything is hard wired – no wireless devices except my
    imac mouse. I used to suffer with multiple chemical sensitivities
    and emfs. I had to move deep into the pristine forest with lots of
    fresh air in order to be able to control my environment to avoid
    many toxins that are so common in the suburbs and cities. The
    closest town, Pahoa, is 10 miles away and Hilo is 35 miles. It is a
    off the road and very few people live this remotely. Its a lot of
    work to say the least. I built small greenhouses that are wild pig
    proof and raise honey bees, chickens, rabbits, doves, a goat,
    horse, several dogs and a cat. Next goal is getting talapia and
    setting up aquaponics. I planted many fruit trees and veggies.
    Seems like I work all the time to keep so many animals. I am rather
    isolated, but I do know my neighbors and we get along. Homesteading
    in remote locations is a big job. It would probably be much easier
    for a couple or family to do rather than a single lady. I have
    learned a lot about natural living and would never want to live in
    a suburb or city again. Hay-diddl-e-d-the country life for
    me…

  37. Antoinette says:

    we had to sell our house and move to another semi rural
    town because the golf course that backed onto our land right near
    our house where they sprayed neurotoxins which slowly poisoned our
    bodies for 12 years my small child came away with autism and l have
    nearly died so many times.We are going to take legal action and
    move on with our lives l feel marginally better and my daughter
    maybe stuck with autism her whole life so its worth moving for
    sure. There is so much we are being subjected to all the time
    anywhere anyone is praying chemicals you will be affected what to
    speak of EMF.HOPE THIS WAS HELPFUL THANKS FOR YOUR GOOD
    WORK

  38. zimi says:

    Would you be able to hook up to the internet in this place? …since they are trying eliminate EMF there?? From the sounds of the excerpt from the article, you wouldn’t even be allowed a radio or TV, let alone the internet. And the winters…brrrr. No, I don’t think this is the place for me. I could live in such isolation if I was allowed to have a computer and be on the internet. The internet could be my TV and radio.

  39. Hello Kevin, My name is Angela and we SERIOUSLY just moved
    to Bartow, which is 10 minutes from Green Bank just two weeks ago!
    We moved from lovely Lynchburg, VA and yes for some of the reasons
    mentioned in your article. We want a more natural life where our
    four kids can grow up knowing how to take care of themselves. So
    they can learn to grow their own food and preserve it. Yes the
    winters are hard, but Snowshoe is just down the road and we can
    enjoy as much skiing as we want! The country is so beautiful and
    the people are so friendly. We are loving it so far. We have began
    working on our garden and it is going to be so big! I am excited to
    being working hard and teaching my children. When I opened up your
    email to read it I couldn’t believe it! Well if you ever decide to
    move to the area, please let me know 🙂 Oh and I love your wife’s
    products!

    • Well, it is definitely interesting reading some of the comments. 🙂 Yes there is high speed internet and television. There is only an AM radio station if you care about that. Also there is a organic co-op in the area so it is possible to get organic food brought to you here. You order online and they bring it by truck and everyone picks it up on pick-up day. As far as Lyme disease goes there doesn’t seem to be a big problem here with it. Tick borne illnesses are one of the big reasons that we left VA. It is really bad there. yes, it is small and there aren’t a lot of people, but the people here help one another. My first impression of the area was that it must be a lot like it was in the 50’s. I love the slower pace life and the hard work. But my in laws already lived here so we had a connection to the place already.

  40. Karen Graham says:

    I could but my husband wouldn’t want to give up his high speed internet and all the conveniences of a city like stores and restaurants.

  41. Neil says:

    Do not move. Reason: (1) The site you mention has more EMF than you might think.
    (2) A car bus train or plane has some of the worst EMF, especially the modern ones.
    (3) Some of the most simple things (electrical) can be devastating to your health.
    (4) Our tests have shown it may not even be what you feel in your body but what you do not feel at all that may bring your health down.
    (5) Live blood analysis shows startling things going on inside with only a very small “safe” EMF.
    (6) There is a way to escape the effects of EMF while still living in it. Biological tests and time show this is entirely possible and has been done in many places here in Australia – even close to mobile phone towers, power lines and electricity sub stations.
    (7) The “sick buildings”, blocks of flats (apartments) skyscrapers and the like normally drain and sicken people, yet there is a way to make them into a health haven. Even the air around them becomes fresh and healthy. ” Incurable” chronic fatigue people suddenly come to life and begin life anew.

    How do I know this? For nearly 25 years I have been helping people get their life back by changing their environment so they can thrive.

    Like you, Kevin, I have been sorting out the things that do or don’t work. When things do work we have instant success. If they don’t work, nothing changes.

    I hope this info doesn’t upset too many people, but facts have to be faced. Apart from EMF, noise is the biggest and worst pollutant we have, and in the cities noise levels are more than the human body can cope with. Am I a city dweller? No thanks! Two of my sons in a northern suburb of Sydney, Australia, have to wear ear plugs so they can sleep at night!

    Neil.

  42. Another consideration: presence of ticks carrying Lyme
    disease! If you’ve red Cure Unknown (Pamela Weintraub), you’ll
    remember her quest to move BACK to the pavement from her “idyllic”
    country home, after the entire family became very ill with Lyme
    Disease! I do live in a a EMF-clean area: the Lost Coast of CA – no
    cell phone reception, no wifi! Check EMF radiation, etc on
    http://www.antennasearch.com: enter your address. A writer of another
    health publication theorized that Michael Jackson couldn’t sleep
    due to high EMF pollution at his home after Neverland. He entered
    Neverland’s address & it was fairly clean. Then he entered
    the more recent address & it was extremely EMF-polluted.
    I’ve read that EMF disables ability to make melatonin, needed for
    sleep Nancy Peregrine, Bd Certified in Holistic Nutrition

  43. Tatiana says:

    The reasons mentioned as Negatives do count for me as such
    too. The Positives are very important however and would count for
    plenty of people that need EMF free environment. The EMF’s are
    scarring me and I have no idea how to block their use at home. The
    WiFi and all the wireless technology here at home is plenty and I
    have breast cancer which has spread already. We have various
    crystals that are supposed to block the EMF radiation but do they
    really? We need access to the Internet and the cell phones, so what
    is there to do in order to keep those but to cut the exposure to
    EMF?

  44. Joan says:

    Wow! That was a good article. Thanks for that. I could see
    myself having a piece of property there but also having another one
    where I grew up for being near family. I just got a new grandchild
    but it and then i might think about looking into some land
    there.

  45. doug says:

    I wouldn’t move there Gianni. too many clouds in the
    sky

  46. I am seriously considering moving away from EMFs and
    becoming largely self-sufficient. No need to go to Green Bank, but
    owning 10, 20, 50 (more?) acres with decent growing season and
    soil, etc. is appealing. Fresh air, nature, built in physical
    exercise requirements – all great for health and fitness. Literally
    ALL the unhealthy stuff can be reasonably eliminated this way.
    Family can move in and share the work load in return for food and
    shelter. Not to mention the camaradarie and relationship benefits
    for the family. Work ethic training for the kids, grandkids, etc.
    Respect and consideration for nature and its myriad of blessings
    for us. We, hubby and I, are not “best friend makers” but prefer
    people contact to be fun, productive, hepful – and brief. The
    opportunities for trade and barter are endless – and even necessary
    for self-sufficient living, and this makes for lots of people
    contact. We live in a neighborhood now in a fair sized city but
    rarely get out to do something with other folks. I think being out
    of town planning outings and group activities far away would likely
    be done more often than now since we’d know arranging it was
    necessary, Instead of expecting this to just happen easily because
    we are near people, which doesn’t seem to work at all for us. We
    love pets, have 4 of them. City dwelling is hard in this regard.
    Also, when producing much of your own foods it isn’t necessary to
    drive to the market every day, or even every week. Walking to the
    store is nice when in the city, but working the land on large or
    small scale is much more healthful. I’ve learned this in my 60+
    years of experience living in all kinds of environments.
    (apartments, acreage, ocean community, large and mid sized city
    neighborhoods, rural towns, desert area) Jobs? Yep, you can have an
    internet biz or run your sales or production company from a
    distance (let others do the operaitons for you). Just say “Ahhhhh”
    and let nature engulf you, leave deadlines to others, relax. That
    doesn’t mean veg out. It means enjoy what you are DOING. I love
    technology. I plan on using it. At the same time protecting my body
    from ill effects of our environment. Consider the options. How do
    you feel, for instance, about an underground house? Get creative!
    Be a leader, not a sheep.

  47. Isa says:

    The pro and con list was great. It sorts it out for me. I moved out of California to a rural area in Arizona with approximately 4000 people and ended moving back. I found work but had to drive long lonely two lane highways. Everything was at least 10 miles. I had two young children (pre-k) at the time, and it was such a hassle. I realized they would grow up to either marry a farmer/cowboy type or a militia kind of guy. The town just didn’t have much variety for my girls. They would have had to move to where there is a university to have any kind of variety. I also noticed the use of alcohol, drugs and tobacco to be very high considering the number of teens in town. They were mainly bored. Although, there was lots of nature, it was too cold or too hot to be roaming the trails for most of the year. Having said that, we are back in the suburb and I have started my own garden. I also counter the emfs with lots of fresh green juice and raw kefir mixed with spirulina. It helps.

  48. rina says:

    Hi, Nice to see this dilema worked out in your article more
    or less. I often think what would I do. Some while back in early
    ’90s a group of followers of Guru Ma of Church Universal &
    Triumphant (now the Summit Lighthouse) looked for a way to survive
    the impending man made and/or earth’s impending disasters and moved
    from Los Angeles to Montana, near Livingston, (just north of
    Yellowstone Park) to start a self-sufficient community. Their staff
    of a couple of hundred people moved into a pristine area, bought a
    ranch of about 20,000 acres (former Forbes ranch) with the
    memberships’ donations; there were probably another couple of
    thousand who moved from the great US cities and foreign and
    clustered locally, built bomb shelters, canned food stufs, etc..
    People invested heavily to relocate, gave up their jobs to find
    other low paying ones, ran up their credit card limits all in the
    mistaken ideology/prophecy that the world as we know it is coming
    to an end or changing drastically. Now the story continued in that
    nothing that was predicted happenned and people lost faith in these
    Prophets (actual name). Most moved away and some could not because
    of finances, broke, had burned their bridges with family and
    friends and workplace. You also are bound to a place where your
    children reside or maybe just because you like it there or are too
    tired to move anymore. Others have settled in nicely in nearby
    cities with new jobs. The ranch has greatly reduced in size now,
    most of the land sold to cover huge losses and expenses, though
    they still operate. So it’s worth rethinking any drastic decisions.
    It’s very hard to do it without constant supply of money coming in;
    it’s hard to do it without the support of family and friends and
    work; that my friends has to be a constant to anyone’s happyness.
    Also, it’s easier to do it whan you’re young, I would almost
    encourage it. As people we probably need others more than are
    willing to admit. I often think of Alaska and how I would like to
    live there in that raw nature without borders so overwhelming that
    it takes your breath away. I lived in Montana, another raw beauty
    and is ‘the last best place’ (to quote a title of a book on
    Montana)… but I also experienced great loneliness. So good luck
    my friends and don’t believe anyone who tells you that they know
    the secret on how you should live your life (in other words about
    your future/karma/life lessons/your divine plan… and other words
    that are just as meaningless where real life and your pursuit of
    happiness is oncerned). Best, N

  49. Jane says:

    A CA native, I just relocated from Pacifica, CA to Green Bay, WI. There is a very noticeable difference in my nervous system. Green Bay is a less dense and less populated and the winter months cause everyone to slow down. I am really enjoying this time to relax. I think there are many reasons as to this difference in my nervous system from EMFs, mass consciousness, frantic pace, I vs we mentality and much more. I am a true believer that community working together can protect itself from these toxins naturally. Unfortunately, I was working so hard in the Bay Area to pay my bills that I didn’t have any time for community building. A very frequent complaint of my clientele in Pacifica.

  50. Andrea says:

    I am surprised no one in this discussion has mentioned the threat of EMF’s from “smart meters”, the new wireless electrical meters that electric companies everywhere are installing on everyone’s homes, replacing the old analog meters. The smart meters are said to emit a high dose of EMF’s. In many towns, you can opt-out for a fee, but that doesn’t stop exposure from the smart meter grid created by your neighbors’ smart meters. Please research and look into this, if you are unaware of this assault on our health and privacy by the big corporations. I have attached a link to a helpful info-graphic (2nd page) that shows how they work.

    http://stopsmartmeters.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/S-meter-Flyer-Dec11-lo.pdf

  51. Jean says:

    A lot of people dream of moving to the country, to rural communities, without any real understanding of what it means to leave the ‘big city’ behind. Most people experience culture shock, particularly if the individual thrives on bright lights and lots of people-oriented activities. It is not as simple as just ‘moving to the country’, it’s more like moving to an entirely different country that just happens to speak the same language.

    For the last 40 years we’ve lived in a variety of very small rural communities. My husband’s natural resources occupation enables us to earn a living in rural areas. Rural communities have their own subcultures and each region is different and has it’s own character. Rural communities are often vibrant, wonderfully creative, and very self sufficient. Volunteerism is a core value. Privacy is highly valued, but so is neighborliness. Being a good neighbor is vital to community survival. We depend upon one another. In rural areas we are our own ‘first responders’ in any type emergency. Outside help is a long ways away.

    I wish people who want to ‘move to the country’ for any reason would watch Chevy Chase’s movie ‘Funny Farm’ and rethink their plan. I and my spouse prefer the rural lifestyle and we hate city life. Cities offer nothing we want. There are too many people, no privacy, and everyone seems to expect somebody else to take care of everything.

    I have seen countless numbers of city people move to the country, then move back to the city again because they didn’t realize that rural living is not simplified city life. It’s not. city. life. And we don’t want it to be. If we wanted city services and city constraints we’d, well,… live in a city.

    If you want time for recreational activities, then stay in town. I remember one rural newbie who thought he’d have lots of time to hunt, fish, and boat only to discover that he had no time for such activities after the demands of doing annual fire clearances and seasonal work around his 5 acre property. Is it all work and no play? No, but there often is a lot more work to daily life in the country than in the city. My spouse enjoys doing fire clearances, cutting firewood, and exercising woodland skills year after year. If that sounds like work then heating with a wood stove is not for you.

    Rural living actually requires a complex set of practical skills and you have to be reasonably self sufficient, self entertaining, and a good fiscal manager to enjoy country life. Yes, there are drawbacks in that many ‘services’ that city dwellers enjoy are absent in rural communities. Jobs are scarce. Emergency services are far away. Medical services may be far away. Police and fire protection is not instantly available.

    But daily, I have deer sleeping in our yard. Wild turkeys roam through, too. There are bear down by the water springs. We have satellite internet and phones. We watch DVDs for digital entertainment (we don’t care for Satellite TV). We have peace and quiet and few visitors. We have fabulous scenery through the window and we can hike by just walking out the door and picking a direction. We simply enjoy solitude and our own company. We don’t need or want the frantic activity of city life. The trade-offs are worth it to us to live rural.

    We are healthier in our particular rural area, than we would be in the city, but many rural areas also have issues with toxins, groundwater safety, old mines, and if you are considering a rural location do your homework on environmental issues as well as the local viewpoints on specific concerns. What your rural neighbors think is important since they are your support system in the country.

    Living rural involves a lot of work that city dwellers often overlook. Annually, we work on wildfire clearances around the house and property. We have to manage our own spring water system to have water at the house. We have to have back-up power for power outages. It’s 30 minutes to town so we plan shopping expeditions. We do rely on our 4×4 vehicles for transportation.

    We help our neighbors with some of their woods projects too since mutual fire protection benefits us all. We all ‘volunteer’ when a neighbor needs help. After all, many rural communities have volunteer fire departments, volunteer-run libraries, and a bunch of community service groups that need – you guessed it, volunteers. Volunteers keep rural communities alive. If you are considering a move to a rural area, ask yourself – “Will my skills and talents be an asset to my new community?”

    There are some pretty good insights into the tradeoffs on moving to a rural community at:
    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/ground-level/archive/2012/05/why-did-you-move-to-rural-minnesota.shtml

    • Liz says:

      Hi Jean, I am enjoying all the interessting comments that this article has generated, but I am particularly struck by your very well written and well considered piece. It seems to sum up the whole question beautifully.

      I don’t live in the US but the issues raised in this forum are world wide.

      Thank you so much
      Liz

  52. melissa says:

    Worrying is very toxic as well. I think minimizing EFT exposure, securing ” pure” food and water, being alert to air quality, and mimimizing stress can really help. There are a variety of exercises from Yoga, Brain Gym to Eden morning routines that will also fortify you. Oils, gems, salt lamps can also add to your protection.

    But if you are really afraid, move don’t spend years fretting. Sometimes the place you move to might actually be worst in some ways.

    I have about 1 1/2 acres near a lake in upstate ny if interested.

  53. I live in Toronto in what used to be a very quiet neighbourhood until planes from the airport started to fly directly over my house.The airport is fifty miles away but I might as well be living on the airstrip.The planes fly day and night and bank very low right outside my back door. Changes were made to flight paths without any environmental impact studies or public input. The flight paths are permanent for the next four years.Should I simply fold up my tent and move on or stay and fight this ridiculous situation? I believe it was Gilda Radner who said “there’s always something” and wherever we humans choose to live, I think she is spot on.I’ll let you know when I have gone completely insane from noise pollution.
    Thanks for listening–
    Janet

  54. Susie says:

    It does seem extreme to move to the middle of nowhere to be safe from certain aspects that could be damaging our health and I have also considered where I could move to protect my health more without feeling isolated. But on the plus side, if many people feel the same perhaps a community would build so there wouldn t be a feeling of isolation. Those people would bring their skills etc and support one another.
    Isn t that what is happening in Vilcabamba? A community growing from nothing but clean air/land water etc. people coming together with a shared vision/interests/passion.
    I think it’s a possibility, what do others think?

  55. Joan says:

    The only problem with that location is the fracking! I want to move to a state that has NO fracking. I currently live in PA and the frackers are taking over the state. They are polluting the air and the water here and I’m pretty sure if they are in W.V. too. Check out fracking maps of the U.S.

    http://earthjustice.org/features/campaigns/fracking-across-the-united-states

  56. JaySun says:

    Great article Kevin ! Thank You

  57. erinb says:

    Love the discussion, reading everyone’s ideas and thoughts are very interesting.

    The economy crashed and we moved from our little 11 acres of woodland haven in north central Minnesota, to having to survive else where. We have plans of hopefully returning someday. It broke our hearts to leave.
    To us a perfect place. Half hour from the nearest small town(pop 380, yes three hundred and eighty) a hour from a small city of 8,000. Medical care with EMS services are local volunteers, nature, but still civilzed.

    I know there are simular places dotted all over this wonderful country. Many struggle to survive with economics and many have to leave places they love.
    To live and make it is a challenge any where…as I listen to the news about the bombs in Boston.
    We can not live in fear, but I truly am rethinking all priorities any more. Isolation isn’t truly being alone…just away.

    My best to all with love and peace, to live with freedoms to actually live happily and healthy as well.

  58. Julie Levine says:

    Wow. Thanks for this refreshing and depressing article. I am feeling understood for the first time. Just sold my house and am off to wander through off-grid Mexico and will probably end up in Dominica if I don’t find a reasonable alternative. Got “electro-sensitive” after the smart meter grid roll out, and now I am toast. What is an extrovert with close family and friends supposed to do when forced off 95+ % of available places on the entire Earth due to a mega-corporate takeover, and with these places, as you point out, in remote, isolated and often sub-zero temperature places? Hell – I have arthritis. So many EMF/Nuclear fugitives out there. Appreciate knowing I am not alone.

  59. Ruby says:

    I lived in citys or suburbs all my life. The first house I ever owned is on unpopulated acres of land with running water and a 3 month growing season . The children know nothing of car accidents, fast food, traffic jams, or home invasion stories { except the bear we shot}. All of them know how to ski, mountain bike, swim, and hunt something, fish or food of some kind , year around. They are tougher and healthier than I was and smarter also. It took me 5 minutes to realize that isolated in the mountains is the safest place to raise children . We take family trips to Seattle or New York to see and understand that side of life. My daughter says she will live in a city , my son says he wants a farm , the other wants to live in the dessert and make rocket powered vehicles . With the internet so vibrant I don’t need to drink coffee with my friends in a club and those people no longer understand me because I unplugged from the hypnosis. My children are largely unhypnotized also which I never could have maintained in a desperately tight urban area . We have smart meters and EMF everywhere but the low population density helps people to value one another and kindness prevails .
    I found that tiny babys travle easier than older toddlers. Once they get to be 4 or more it gets difficult again untill they are teenagers. The urban lifestyle hampers the freedom of children in the 4 to teenage group untill a threash hold of wealth makes them safer . In the boondocks you can be as poor as you want and still be safe from preditors and thieves and many bad ideas like propaganda . We can visit the urban life like we go to adult supervision movies . There is balance in knowing both worlds. I maybe wouldn’t do this if it were not for the children .

  60. James says:

    I would not move there but I do think it makes sense to review the location of power lines and cell towers before you decide on a home. I live in a rural spot in the mountains of southern Utah with access to the amenities of urban living. Close enough to get a taste when I want one. Rural living is quite sweet.

  61. Hey Kev,
    I appreciate you tackling the tough issues, Brother! I’ve given much thought to country living, alternative energy methods, and getting out of the multiple assaults of urban dwelling (rat-race pace, EMFs, pollution, crowded/noisy/light-polluted, grid-locked, over stimulating, pressure of culture and advertising).

    Due to some interesting circumstances (somewhat out of my control) just before New Years I lost my job, lost my dwelling place and moved to Mossyrock, WA which share some remarkable similarities to Green Bank, WV. So for nearly four months I’ve been on location getting used to near-solitary confinement. It is the smallest town (or area; sparsest population) I’ve ever lived in. I’m originally from Detroit, MI and I’ve been living in Seattle for the past 4 years.

    I live alone in a friend’s country home property with no TV, satellite, internet, or home phone and not too many near neighbors. I have no regular paying job but am doing volunteer work (health education and promotion). My unlimited, killer smart phone, super-cell service doesn’t work within 20 miles of the place (it kicks in once I get to Interstate 5) and my Verizon service, for which I have the most basic voice minutes (as a back-up) only is sketchy most of the time.

    I consider myself as one who loves interacting with people, usually keeping tremendously busy with multiple jobs and projects at all times, and I’m externally motivated (which is what the Myers-Briggs test considers Extroverted). This has been quite the shocking experiment. But it has shown me the extreme adaptability to the human spirit and has been a positive experiment overall. No, I haven’t prepared any acreage for gardening (although http://www.BackToEdenFilm.com has a wonderful free video on getting started that intrigues me) nor taken up alternative energy sources like converting my vehicle to biodiesel. But the amazing star-show each night, frequent visits from the local critters, and the starkly fresh air and dense greenery surrounding me has taken the edge off the quiet and isolation.

    Overall, I would recommend the experience to everyone because it’s really helped me to evaluate What Is Non-negotiable and Imperative? in my life. I’m learning a lot and looking forward to what will be my next move. I’ll keep you posted!!

  62. Kay says:

    I don’t live there, but fairly close — Madison, WV. Small town, but I don’t live in town, so have to drive. Our grocery store is a Kroger’s — and it doesn’t have much in the way of organic — their response to me was “We can’t carry everything”. The store that does carry organic is 45 minutes away (Charleston, WV) — so on Wednesdays when I am in town, I hit the store — and sometimes work at a Juice and Deli Bar — Mission Savvy. Check it out if you are ever this way. Kay

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