A Thank You and Details on The Special 50% Digital Deal That Will Be Unlocked Tomorrow : Exclusive Renegade Health Article

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thank you renegade health
Here’s a sunflower for you as a token of our appreciation!

Wow…

I can’t say enough about your response yesterday!

So many comments and so many thoughtful people to interview.

Today, I have two things for you, so hang tight for both.

First up, I want to explain what you “won” for helping us out. Second, I have some commentary on blog posts in general based on something I read over the weekend. I think you’ll really appreciate what I have to say about them.

(Also, I will start to comment on the Expo West tomorrow… I know I promised a recap!)

Let’s get started…

If you didn’t catch what I posted yesterday, here’s the run down.

I asked for you to help me out by sharing the names of experts that you’d like me to interview.

You can read more here.

But to make it more exciting — and to make sure that we got suggestions — I told everyone that if there are more than 200 comments I would “unlock” a special 50% of deal on all Renegade Health digital programs.

That’s 50% off the sale price, BTW. 😉

What’s crazy is that we are at 390 posts and counting!

So first off, I want to thank you guys so much for contributing — since now we have a TON of names to go through and start contacting.

Lisa is swamped (in a good way) and she’s already producing a spreadsheet that we’ll use to keep track of all the experts.

I know there are some doubles, but it would take me 4 years to get through all of them if I interviewed one a week!

So we now have content for years thanks to you.

Second, I wanted to give you details about the flash sale I mentioned if 200 posts were reached.

This is a really special deal, so please be sure to read all the details.

Here’s how it’s going to work…

1. The deal starts on Wednesday, March 14th at 6:00 PM Eastern (New York) / 3:00 PM Pacific (San Francisco) and will run for 8 hours instead of 4. The reason why is because you guys almost doubled (probably will have by the time you read this) the amount of posts I requested.

Here’s where you can convert your time zone if needed: Click Here

2. You will be able to head over to the Renegade Health Store and get any digital product at 50% off the sale price. Any!

3. After the 8 hours are up, the sale will be taken down and it will be over.

4. I’ll be sure to send you an email an hour before the start so you remember that it’s happening.

5. We’ve never done a sale like this before and probably won’t ever again. This is a special gift from me to you that I’ve decided to do because I think you guys are awesome and wanted to give back a little love.

6. All the digital products that will be available will be on this page (click here) — but they won’t have the sale price until March 14th at 6:00 PM Eastern (New York) / 3:00 PM Pacific (San Francisco)

(They may not be there now, but will be when the sale event starts.)

Again, I’ll send a notification out tomorrow that will keep you posted on when it’s going to start and when it’s ending.

Moving on, let’s talk blog comments…

Over the weekend, I read an interesting article on CNN. (Here)

The headline caught my attention because it’s something that I’ve said for years now and someone of relevance is finally talking about it.

Here’s what it said…

“Have online comment sections become ‘a joke’?”

Very simply, Nick Denton — Gawker Media founder — has expressed the truth about most online comment sections.

They’ve become a sounding board of smear, smut, smudge and stupidity.

Just read the comments under the initial article and you’ll see what he’s talking about. (Or read some of the comments under our YouTube videos.)

Here is an excerpt from the article:

In the early days of the Internet, there was hope that the unprecedented tool for global communication would lead to thoughtful sharing and discussion on its most popular sites.

A decade and a half later, the very idea is laughable, says Gawker Media founder Nick Denton.

“It didn’t happen,” said Denton, whose properties include the blogs Gawker, Jezebel, Gizmodo, io9 and Lifehacker. “It’s a promise that has so not happened that people don’t even have that ambition anymore.

“The idea of capturing the intelligence of the readership — that’s a joke.”

He said that commenting on his own sites (which he’s seen make reporters cry) has gotten so bad that he doesn’t engage.

“I don’t like going into the comments. … For every two comments that are interesting — even if they’re critical, you want to engage with them — there will be eight that are off-topic or just toxic,” he said.

And as sites get more popular, it’s harder to control the comments, which inevitably get nastier.

Now for me, I agree that sites like Gawker, YouTube, CNN, etc. do have useless and base comment boards, but I totally disagree that all sites have this issue — or that “The idea of capturing the intelligence of the readership — that’s a joke.”

This blog is a perfect example of the opposite.

While I won’t deny there are some comments that I’d rather not post — but do anyway — the majority (99%) of them that are posted here are either relevant, intelligent, helpful, thoughtful or a combination of all of these things.

I think Nick’s issue is that all the sites he has founded or groomed lack a sense of intimacy and community. That’s the missing special sauce that makes comments either good or bad.

It’s my understanding — and just a simple rule of being a good person — that the more you relate and care about your readers the more they relate and care about you. It’s hard to post a nasty or silly comment on a blog that’s run by people that care about you.

Gawker, for instance, lacks any human connection. Therefore it’s easy for someone to post the comments Denton is talking about.

I think another reason why comments have become more useless is because of the business models of the big online media sites.

For many their revenue stream is ad based. So while some of the content is human, the mode of operation is not so much.

They care about traffic — people visiting their sites and looking at the ads first — then they provide you with interesting content.

It’s a revenue first, you second model.

Of course, the good content (a matter of taste with Gawker) or user supplied videos keeps people coming in, but the metrics drive the content with the intention of getting more eyes that in turn will sell more ads.

The Renegade Health model is different, and likely why we don’t get the trolls and why I feel differently about blog comments.

We focus on you first, then revenue second.

We don’t take any money from random ads. Any ad we have is for a product we like or use (or have produced or packaged ourselves.)

We scan posts for questions to answer for future articles.

We scan emails for questions as well.

And ultimately, we care about your success when it comes to your health — and beyond.

I can’t say some of these other sites care as much.

We’re here willing to help, while CNN, Gawker and YouTube have made no personal attempt to find out who you are besides looking at your demographics to add to an ad sales spreadsheet.

Audience: Mainly Female
Age Range: 40-65
Income: $40,000-60,000 per year.
Purchasing Habits: Likes buying mystery novels and Mickey Mouse snow globes.

Anyway, this is health related and it’s not, but I won’t push much further. My main premise is that the reason Denton thinks this way about blog comments is because he’s only looking at the sites that don’t care so much about you. These are the sites that attract the worst blog posting offenders — not the sites that have a conscious mission to make sure you feel supported and loved.

But ultimately, none of that matters either.

What I really wanted to do is share how much I appreciate you for reading and commenting and making our experience rewarding — particularly since you make it very evident that you appreciate us as well.

Your Question of The Day: What do you think about comments in general? A joke? Useful? Both?

Live Awesome!
Kev

Kevin Gianni

Kevin Gianni is a health author, activist and blogger. He started seriously researching personal and preventative natural health therapies in 2002 when he was struck with the reality that cancer ran deep in his family and if he didn’t change the way he was living — he might go down that same path. Since then, he’s written and edited 6 books on the subject of natural health, diet and fitness. During this time, he’s constantly been humbled by what experts claim they know and what actually is true. This has led him to experiment with many diets and protocols — including vegan, raw food, fasting, medical treatments and more — to find out what is myth and what really works in the real world.

Kevin has also traveled around the world searching for the best protocols, foods, medicines and clinics around and bringing them to the readers of his blog RenegadeHealth.com — which is one of the most widely read natural health blogs in the world with hundreds of thousands of visitors a month from over 150 countries around the world.

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  1. Diane says:

    My experience on the web is a resounding WOW. I think it’s because of the sites that I’m interested in and choose to visit (like this one) are for an audience of engaged, interested and interesting people. The sites very much attract certain audiences. There is such a wealth of information that is valuable that I would’t want to waste my time reading comments from just “any old body!.

    I always look forward to a quick peek when I receive emails from this site. I can breeze through or read, watch, and follow links.

    It’s also certainly true that there’s much more of a personal connection in this example.

  2. sue says:

    They are platforms for catharsis which is most often unrelated to what is being commented. i.e. garbage dumps

  3. Oleander says:

    Some blogs are just too ‘flowery’ for words, for my liking. Maybe it’s because I’m a Brit, but I like down to earth factual and practicle comments which can be read and assimilated fairly quickly. Otherwise, I find too much time is spent reading ‘hype’ and not doing real things!

  4. I think that it’s a mixed bag. But like this site, it is nice to comment, that is, if it’s actually getting read by the author. Some sites I don’t believe it matters. So if you are going to voice your opinion, it’s nice if it actually gets heard.

  5. Chris Armstrong says:

    Evan as it is written, we reap what we sow. Karma is real what one does, thinks,wishes comes back around.when one appreciates truth and seeks it out, lies began to stink, and become more and more obvious. to travel a path to truth requires a dedication to self honesty and maintaining ones moral agency. without viable information we cannot make viable choices, without choice there is no viable moral agency. Thank you for helping us maintain our moral agency.

  6. Kathleen says:

    This is one of the only sites where I will read comments. (This is actually the first time I have ever even commented on a blog.) I enjoy the vibe of this site and the readers who share their thoughts. Thanks for all of the love and information!

  7. chusmacha says:

    Appreciate your work. Thanks for covering health topics of interest.
    Especially enjoyed stories about Peruvian tea, Costa Rican cinnamon.
    Looking forward to actually trying some of these.
    Began using holy basil and tooth soap because of comments I read.
    My teeth are much happier after giving up tooth paste. Thanks.

  8. Bryan says:

    I don’t know a lot about how the whole internet marketing thing works so much, but I know there has to be different models. Just look at the difference between the posts at this site and the posts on your YouTube videos. At YouTube, I might be looking up videos that reference “Raw” without even knowing there are people who eat that way… *ahem* LOL What you are trying to convey and how you are trying to educate people is the same, but YouTube is based on the keep people looking and maybe click an ad no matter what model. There is a percentage of the population that is going to go for the low comments and more volume means more of those numbers show up. I only read and comment on three message boards, one of which is a local meet-up group. I find staying very focused on content greatly reduces the caustic comment folks from ever showing up. For now we have industries that are putting people to sleep about what they put into their mouths, so I don’t think a lot of folks who do the negative bashing have sites like this blog even on their radar, unless you personally do something to raise their ire.

    Keep up the great content and products!

  9. Robin says:

    Couldn’t help but comment on this question. I know it is hard and takes a lot of time but really feel comments should be monitored on websites and nasty comments deleted. Not that you can’t post points of disagreement or a different perspective but comments that are unkind and rude serve no purpose. (That goes too for the people who think it is their right to correct another’s grammar or spelling. Just rude!)
    Anyway,2 Cases-in-point…one of my daughters (12yo at the time) was researching raw food eating about 5 years ago and the one who got us interested in it. She had found a website which will remain un-named and just loved it. It was full of info, recipes, ideas etc. and the comments were awesome for the first couple months. Then as more people joined it was if the “raw police” were alerted. Wow, if you had a cup of over-118°-herbal tea, used a bit of honey, or even looked at an egg…you were booed and hissed. At first you could ignore some of them but it got terrible and just plain nasty. My daughter in the beginning went to the website and left inspired, but as time went on and more peoples true colors were shown she came away confused and sad. Finally she left and her enthusiasm for a more raw food diet diminished too.
    Another daughter was on a website and forum that dealt with animals and she told of how green smoothies healed our dog and this woman jumped on her for not taking our dog to the vet and was so nasty that the website finally banned her, but not soon enough before a lot of damage had been done. This lady who we never met, spread all kinds of rumors about her and got our email address and wrote terrible letters to my daughter about what an awful person she was, how could she even claim to be spiritual on and on it spiraled and escalated way past taking our dog to the vet. She was only 14. She too was hurt and left the site, which is too bad as she learned many things. (Since then the site monitors better.)

    That all being said we don’t read nor write many comments anymore and stay away from forums where everyone thinks they are an expert.
    This is only the 3rd time I have written on this site since I found it a few years ago. I don’t read many of the comments but every now and then I find intriguing a question Kevin asks so I will read the comments. I do have to say that the spirit here seems different and maybe it is as Kevin says…he, Annmarie, and staff really care…Thank you!

  10. zyxomma says:

    I comment here and on an Alaskan politics blog (no, I’m from NYC) regularly, and visit a few others where I post the occasional comment. My experience has been good because I seek out bright, informed, curious, healthy people with whom to hang out, both online and in corporeal life.

    Because of my interest in politics, I have seen sites where the comments sections are reminiscent of Orwell’s Two Minute Hate in 1984. Mean, nasty, ugly, racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim, anti-education; you name it, they hate it. Needless to say, that’s not where I choose to hang my hat.

  11. Fabrice says:

    Argggglll…

    Hey Kevin,

    while the flash sale is indeed a wonderful idea, i’m afraid the timing couldn’t be more off…

    It will start at 11PM and end at 7AM, so in the middle of the night here in Europe…

    So, how can we get in bed early to get some some good sleep (as recommended by our Health Renegade Friends ;p) and at the same time shop for digital products?…

    Anyway, keep up the good work!

  12. Ryan Carson says:

    I think comments on your blog are almost always really amazing.

    I would like to note on your sale going on tomorrow. Did you get rid of your book “Cultured” in eBook form? I was looking forward to seeing it in the sale tomorrow.

  13. LynnCS says:

    Kevin…You give good blog!! I don’t get on sites where people are nasty. Don’t have time. I mostly like the sites that are health/diet related and when I see some nasty comments, usually another far sighted commenter has shot them down. I skip over the comments that don’t provide any help for me and occasionally will tell someone to ease off. The times I have been out spoken in a negative way, I’ve been sorry, so I try to be helpful and kind or not post.

    Looking forward to all the great new upcoming interviews. Thanks!

  14. Stephania says:

    YAY for Lisa sparking you to ask your readers for their input.

    YAY for you, Kevin, having the chutzpah and humility to actually ASK. And then comment on blog posts in general.

    Well done! Thanks to you all at Renegade Health.

    About blog posts in general: people would be wise to bear in mind the sage advice about responding, not reacting–anything you would be OK with appearing on the front page of a national newspaper, accredited to you, is OK to communicate via the internet! 🙂

    peace,
    stephania

  15. Brenton says:

    Among the dross and fluff, there are gems. It is the wonderful thing about humanity: our creativity and connection with cosmic principles [as well as with earthy instincts!].
    On the web, in blogs, there’s something for everyone! We have never had such access to so much knowledge and wisdom [even] – and to so much unadulterated crap and manipulation too. But that is the test, isn’t it? To each his/her own!
    Kevin, yours has changed over the years I have been reading – and I am glad I did not give up receiving it a couple of years ago, when I was tempted!
    Kevin, thank you for your continuous effort and your openess about your own journey.

  16. Mango says:

    Kevin, this all great stuff, keep up the good work. The more people that read the info we put up the faster word will get around. Cheers mate.

  17. Findabair says:

    I can’t be bothered reading negative comments, not very constructive and I can’t understand why people would write them.

  18. David says:

    You the man Kevin!
    You sure come across as you care, if you didn’t, you’d be great at faking it…
    Merci beaucoup, coming at you from Québec, Canada.
    David

  19. Roni says:

    Kevin, yours is one (blog) that others should model themselves after: informative, reader focused, willing to be transparent, open to others’ opinions without tearing them down while at the same time gently educating…great stuff!

    I haven’t read yesterdays blog post yet but was going to suggest that you consider interviewing some of the people that people were talking about in the comments…thanks for listening to your readership! And thanks in advance for the 50% discount – that’s very gracious of you!

    About commments, I think you hit it on the head. Depending on the blog/website owner and how in tune and concerned they are about their readership will determine the direction comments are allowed to go.

    Those who put their foot down and let readers know that they won’t tolerate nastiness/meanness/off topic/ comments will have comments that reflect that stand. Robin’s comment is a case in point and it’s very sad that her daughters had to experience that craziness.

  20. Angela Rooker says:

    I get confused with your multiple websites, I get both emails at the same time and I like all the information, but I can never access it easily and I have to so much of the story to get to what I need to learn. Please summarize in bullet and/or checklist style for us ADD people who can’t seem to get enough time in the day to absorb all this stuff?? I honestly get stressed out and give up, because I feel like I can’t do it or learn it. And, I can’t seem to find a catalog of all what you posted?? So if I miss in my mass of emails, well then there it goes. I love it, but just have a real hard time being a part of it and enjoying the process.

  21. Maggie says:

    Thanks Kevin for the offer. However here in Europe the sale starts when it is already eleven o’clock at night and will finish almost before waking the following morning. Anything you can do about that? Thanking you in anticipation Maggie

  22. lizzy says:

    I don’t like commenting much as I feel kind of unheard mostly, I feel like I am talking to myself, even here I don’t like to comment, but you ask such good intelligient questions that I comment on almost every post!

    at the end of the post I always look out for the question, I guess I find it kind of like a challenge, that question practice of yours is an intelligiently engaging strategy.

  23. naomi says:

    being the only (high raw) vegan i know, i need the sense of community found here!
    i have learnt to bless negative people(not always easy!) when they occasionally drift into my orbit, as everyone is doing their best…
    re your comments on caring for us, i had actually just got a buzz from the sunflower pic as these are “my” flowers!
    thanks

  24. Rocio says:

    Kevin, I keep it very simple.. I read yours and Cancer is Curable Now.
    Sometimes if comments are not on line with decency and respect, I move on. Not time for non sense! many blessings. Praying about the sale! it is tempting..hard to decide which one to choose from. Thank you.

  25. i’d really like to hear an interview between you & dr. richard schultz, the master herbalist. thanks!

  26. What gets posted and commented on in the blog is naturally going to depend on the type of blog it is. I don’t waste my time with anything that is not an interest to me; such as my endeavers in improving my health by way of better nutrition and I limit myself to those websites that I have found to be of a higher quality. Therefore, you don’t get the same caliber of people that You Tube and others do that just want to vent about something or other. I appreciate your quest and dedication to help others and have recommended your site to many others. I wish you had a way for us to search the receipes by the products you see and or ingredients. Would make it easier when I finally receive one of those new products you introduced that took me a couple months to save for and finally order. Thanks again for your special. Anxious to see what I can get.

  27. Rose says:

    Kevin,
    I am once again having trouble ordering on your site. There is a glitch that does not allow me to delete an item from my order before I finalize it. At first it said “no postage” and then it adds almost $8.00 postage for one little paperback book…that’s crazy! (and before I even gave my credit card info and it wouldn’t let me delete the one item needing postage!! I typed 3 ddifferent pleas for help. Haven’t received a response back. Just want you to know I placed the oder w/in your time limit but am still waiting to hear that you will make the correction I asked for so my order can be put thru correctly!! I want to be sure it is correct before I submit
    my payment info.

    I think it is in poor taste that you do not provide a phone # to call in such a situation so you don’t waste so much of my precious time with all this . Please direct your email personel to read my help plea and get back to me or for someone to call me about this matter asap BUT no earlier than 10 AM Eastern time.

    Hopefully you’ll be prompt; thanks.
    Rose

  28. Bill says:

    A monitored blog and a focused community of contributors — which this blog has — is sufficient to keep the exchange of relevant information and ideas free of the trolls.

    Not that I’ve seen that many blogs, but this one is “tops!”

  29. Jill says:

    Kevin, I have over 30,000 read and half read and not read emails. I am a motivational speaker and only study good comment on the net. I have tried to eliminate many but usually miss my favourites. So.. I guess you would say that most or all of my content is good, kind, healthy and inspirational. It is my choice and I am grateful that you are top of my “good list” Thank you so much for your hard work. Best wishes for the new format.

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