The Healthiest Places to Live: Is It Cheaper to Live Healthy in the City or the Country (Part 2) : Renegade Health Exclusive Article

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Santa Fe may have good air quality, but it also has the ever-so-tempting Frito Pie…

We had a lot of great feedback from yesterday’s article on whether living in the city or the country is healthier.

It seems many of you have lived in both settings and have had some unique experiences that helped you decide where you really wanted to be.

Today, I’m going to continue on to address cost of living, transportation, mental health, pollution, more health considerations, and preparedness (disaster and economic fallout considerations.)

1. Cost of Living.

When we decided to move to Berkeley instead of Denver, we instantly added about $500-700 a month on to our rent.

We weren’t thrilled about it, but we knew that was a fact of coming to the Bay Area.

Some places are just more expensive than others.

In the city, rents are higher. The cost of food is higher. Restaurants are more expensive. Farmer’s markets are more expensive. Across the board everything is generally more expensive in most cities.

So the country can usually be a better place for you if you’re on a budget.

You will be able to find cheaper property, cheaper food and save more money than you may if you were in the city.

If you’re in a city, you can lower your costs though.

You can grow your own food at a community garden or on your small lot. You can take public transportation and get a bike. You can shop at the numerous thrift stores and you can use Craigslist and Freecycle to get things that your would normally have to pay for new in the country.

So there are ways to make city life frugal. We’ve managed – with a new mattress – to stay under our budget of $2500 to furnish our apartment. Over the weekend, we found two bar stools for our counter on Craigslist for $10. After this expense, we won’t have put any money into our place because we rent.

That’s another thing to consider. If you’re in the city for only 10-15 years or less, you may actually save more money by renting then you would if you bought a home in the country.

When you have property, you have to spend either money or time to take care of the grounds regularly as well as make repairs on the house that could cost as little as $100 or as much as a new $10,000 roof.

If you’re renting, the landlord takes care of the big stuff, while you can go out to the park and enjoy the day.

As you can see, there are ways to streamline your lifestyle so you don’t have to pay big chunks of cash to house repairs as well as get things on the cheap in the city, but regardless I do think it’s cheaper to live in the country.

In the city, you pay for convenience.

Like I said, we’re walking distance to some amazing produce, farmer’s markets and healthy restaurants. We’re 20 minutes from San Francisco. We’re 30 minutes from Marin. We can hop on the train and get to any airport in the area or just take Amtrak to L.A. or Seattle.

This leads me to my next category…

2. Ease of transportation.

Hands down, the city wins here.

I started to mention the transportation benefits of living in a city above. You have easy access to the airports, other cities and surrounding areas in most major cities.

Now some cities are better than others, and some transportation systems are more developed, but regardless, you can leave the car in the driveway (or on the street) and get just about anywhere.

In the country, or even suburbia, you generally have to drive a bit to get anywhere. My experience growing up in Connecticut is that the roads don’t have sidewalks (unless you’re in town) and it’s dangerous to walk or bike the windy, hilly roads.

We have friends who live in Northwest Connecticut and some have to drive 45 minutes just to be in a small town where they can access a hardware store or other services that aren’t anywhere near them.

When we were moving, my ultimate goal was to feel like I never needed to use the car. In fact, Annmarie and I have made it a point to pretend we don’t have one and figure out how to get somewhere without it.

Also, when you’re in the country and you’re living with a spouse, chances are you’re going to need two cars. This can increase the cost of living a little bit, but probably still not enough to eclipse living in the city.

So for transportation, like I mentioned above, the city is much better.

But if you don’t go anywhere, it doesn’t matter!

3. Pollution.

In almost all cases, there is less pollution in the country. Cities have more people, more cars, more industry and are dirtier.

The air quality is worse.

(Here’s a place where you can check what the quality of air is in your county in case you want to know:

There’s also noise pollution.

Yesterday, we went for a run in Tilden Park, which is in the hills of Berkeley. The views from the peaks of the Bay to the east and Mt. Diablo to the west are some of the most spectacular I’ve ever seen.

What’s not spectacular is that you can still hear road traffic off in the distance from I-80 and I-580.

Most country, unless you live near an industrial (or nuclear) plant, downstream from feedlots, or on contaminated land, is generally pristine.

(Though, I’d definitely test your soil and water and not assume.)

We did not rank pollution as a big consideration when making our move. We knew if we lived in a city that there would be more pollution than in the country.

What’s interesting is that an area like Boulder, Colorado, which you would think is pristine, has an air quality similar to Contra Costa County which is where we are now.

Also, in Berkeley, the air pollution is less than it was in Fairfield County, Connecticut where we lived previously. So it’s a step up from where we were before.

4. Other health considerations (including mental health.)

There are three other health considerations that I want to mention here.

First is sleep, next will be stress and finally, I’ll address overall mental health.

Sleeping in the country is dramatically better for two reasons. It’s generally quieter and there’s no light pollution – that means it’s darker at night.

In the city, there is light pollution – so it never really gets that dark – and there is most likely noise.

When we were in the RV, we had very dark blinds that would block the light coming in from parking lots and RV parks. This would make the room really dark, but in the morning, it would stay dark and we wouldn’t wake up to the natural light.

Even though it’s still not very dark here at night, we can sleep with the blinds open and then have the light wake us up in the morning. This is a much more natural way – I feel – to sleep.

The most natural, though, would be to sleep in the country in silence and complete darkness.

We picked a quiet street to live on, where maybe 30-50 cars pass a day, so we definitely get good sleep. It could be a little darker here at night, but you can’t get everything you want all the time.

In terms of stress, many people would say the city is more stressful.

I would argue that it depends on who you are.

If you don’t have to sit in traffic (take public transportation and ride a bike) and don’t mind being around people (in crowds) then you can be stress-free in the city as well.

In terms of your job, city jobs do tend to be more taxing on your adrenals. It’s just the nature of working in the city.

I love being around people and Annmarie does as well. We also love to explore and walk. Our jobs don’t require us to be in the office either, so our schedules don’t require us to drive at peak traffic hours.

This truly helps us be relatively stress-free in the city.

One thing that is an issue, and sometimes stressful (LOL!), is that when we do want to eat at a healthy restaurant there’s always a wait. This is not the case in the country. We have to learn to plan our trips to these places a day in advance. This way, we’ll actually get a table.

For overall mental health, I think it’s important to fit your personality. Cities are big for some people – too overwhelming. On the other side, the country can be relaxing at first, but you can get lonely and feel isolated.

Your mental health is extremely important in determining where you live. If you want to be truly happy, you need to know who you are.

My mental health suffers when we’re home for the holidays. You would think it’s because I can’t deal with family, but that’s not the case. The reason why I get in a slump is because we have to drive at least 15 minutes to get anywhere. I feel trapped. (I, of course, am not, but it’s how I feel.)

It also doesn’t help that it’s winter when we visit as well.

Anyway, the best way to test this out what is healthier for you is to really figure out who you are and what your needs are. Also, be brave and try something new if you’re in a slump.

If you’re lonely in the country, move to the city. If you’re tired of the race, move to the country for some rest and a recharge.

If you have kids, just weigh your options and do what’s best for the family.

For me, my mental health is fantastic in the city environment. I’ve done it before and love the possibilities it brings. Annmarie is new to it, but loves it already. She also is much more stable going into the office on a regular basis, which she can do here.

5. Preparedness, disasters, economic fallout.

Personal safety is probably the biggest topic that needs to be addressed.

There are a lot of people in the health world who also are fearful of economic, social and natural disasters. These people have chosen to move to the country to avoid the possible fallout from these events if they do happen.

They might be on to something.

In the light of the most recent disaster in Japan, this fear is completely understood and even Annmarie and I are wondering if we made a good decision to live in a place where there’s a 70% probability of a 6.7 magnitude earthquake (or higher) in the next 30 years. (US Geological Survey done in 1999.)

Moving to the country, provides you with a level of safety that you cannot find in the cities. It also, if you search for it, will provide local infrastructure for food and water in the case of a disaster.

These are real benefits to living outside of overpopulated areas in the case of a disaster or social / economic collapse.

So why did we choose the city based on this information?

Our own personal decision was made when we asked ourselves this question:

“Do we want live in an area where we know we’ll be unhappy (the country) based on our fear of collapse or disaster, or do we want to be happy in the face of all the possibilities?”

You know the answer to this question, we live in Berkeley. We clearly followed our hearts, not our fear. It may not be the best decision, but it’s the one that felt right.

I also wonder what the personal risk truly is.

Many people are irrationally afraid of flying (myself included), but choose to drive a car every day (which is much more dangerous statistically.)

I even choose to ride a bike, which is even more dangerous than driving a car.

So what is the risk of personal harm in a disaster?

I don’t know the answer to this. I do know that if there is a natural disaster or economic crisis things won’t be good. But this isn’t enough to move us out of here just yet.

What I do understand is the value of being prepared. We generally keep at least three 5 gallon bottles of water here in the apartment. We’ve made an earthquake plan and are in the process of putting together our preparedness kit – which includes food, whistles, a battery powered radio, and more.

We also plan on networking in the community to learn more about what systems they have in place in case something does happen.

In all, this is a very personal decision that requires a lot of thought. If you really think that the world is going to collapse, then get out. I have no information that you’re right or wrong. Your intuition may be better than the next.

If you can’t stand to live in the country, and are forcing yourself to do so because you’re afraid of a natural or economic disaster, I have to wonder what your true quality of life really is. If you’re not truly happy and living out of fear, what’s the point of living a depressed life in a place where you’re presumably safe from a disaster – but could be killed in a car accident at a much higher probability?

Obviously, there is a lot to consider when you decide if you would fit better in the country of the city.

Just like I suggested in the first part of this article, sit down and make a list with those who are involved and at least identify all the pros and cons of these categories that I mentioned.

Doing this will give you a good starting point to help you make your decision.

Also know that once you move somewhere, you can always move somewhere else. Our friends Michael and Tracy have moved more than a dozen times over the last 17 years or so. They’re thinking of moving again (and they have 3 kids.)

You’re completely free to decide what works best for you.

Just do me a favor and act on it.

I want to know your thoughts: Are you afraid of a natural or social / economical disaster in the U.S. or global cities?

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Kevin Gianni

Kevin Gianni is a health author, activist and blogger. He started seriously researching personal and preventative natural health therapies in 2002 when he was struck with the reality that cancer ran deep in his family and if he didn’t change the way he was living — he might go down that same path. Since then, he’s written and edited 6 books on the subject of natural health, diet and fitness. During this time, he’s constantly been humbled by what experts claim they know and what actually is true. This has led him to experiment with many diets and protocols — including vegan, raw food, fasting, medical treatments and more — to find out what is myth and what really works in the real world.

Kevin has also traveled around the world searching for the best protocols, foods, medicines and clinics around and bringing them to the readers of his blog — which is one of the most widely read natural health blogs in the world with hundreds of thousands of visitors a month from over 150 countries around the world.


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  1. Tara Burner says:

    Coming from a single mom who spends $1200 on an extremely small condo I can rent for sure is higher in the ‘city’ than even my old town in PA (near Pgh!) where I could get a HUGE HUGE nice place for what I pay here….but my mental health is better here because I simply cannot live in PA…FL & sun is for me….
    and as far as natural disasters…been there, done that…few times…with “H”‘s that have hit (sorry I refuse to say it or spell it but we’re approaching that season…think tornado just bigger, more forceful and you’ll know the weather word beginning with “H”) I’ve had multiple places I’ve lived destroyed, lost items, gone w/o power for month+ and survived…it’s all just part of life…just go with the flow…can’t be afraid of it; otherwise, I’d also have to be afraid of driving with the multi-million people who live in this area and afraid to run, ride my bike in this area as well…so just live life, enjoy and look forward to my moving to a smaller, less metropolitian area of FL! 🙂

  2. Tara Burner says:

    Oppps forgot to mention Kevin’s comments of
    “You’re completely free to decide what works best for you.
    Just do me a favor and act on it.”

    YES YES YES!!!
    Act on it!!!
    I’m ‘stuck’ where I am (for another 3 yrs, til my daughter graduates high school–not so much because of just her, but the ex, etc.etc…you get the idea) but when the time comes…I’ll be moving (ACTING on it!) and outta Miami/Ft Lauderdale area and further north in FL!

    so, don’t waste your life waiting or being afraid! 🙂

  3. Afraid of a natural or man-made disaster, no.

    Curious about how to prepare for one and making plans just in case however is a good idea for sure.

    Not 100% sure how to do that while traveling the world…

    The big thing we find is that people are good people… 99% of people in the world are good people and when push comes to shove (and despite what Survivor teaches), people find ways to work together to create solutions to difficult challenges.


  4. Anne-Marie says:

    Wow, great articles! Yeah, those criterias where very present for me when I decided Not to move from the city. Mainly, since I’m on a budget and that I live in a pretty poor area, rents are cheap. My main criteria was the cost of food. I went a few times to do my grocery in the area where I wanted to move (I have friends around there) in the countryside and the food (especially produces) where a LOT more expensive than in the city and the variety of choice (organic, raw, health food) was, well, not very good down there. So I decided to stay in the city for a while longer, time to learn more about raising my own food. I can always run to my friend’s places in case of disaster…
    thank you Kevin and Annmarie for your great info!

  5. Awesome and insightful article. I am thinking about all of it.

  6. John Schmidt says:

    I moved away from Austin 9 years ago and live in Chiang Mai, Thailand located in the mountainous North away from the ocean where I enjoy my beautiful international community of “foreigners” and Thais and I live within 15-20 minutes of the city. I live a little higher up with the national forest as my backyard and where the air is cleaner. I also have an organic garden, water catchment system, and whole house filtration. I had my home built a few years ago and it was far less expensive to do there based on the rates for labor, the cost of the land, and cost of materials as margins on materials are considerably lower than most what you would pay in the West. I have the title under the my best friend’s wife’s name as she is Thai. Condos can be bought quite reasonably and you don’t have to be Thai to own one. Thailand being a third would country, is far more affordable than most Western cities. Fortunately I am over 50 so I can stay on a retirement visa which I renew every once a year with a 3 month check in for any changes. Here we have restaurants and health food stores which serve organic food as well as Farmer’s Markets where you can buy the same. I come back to the USA to see friends and it is so expensive here that I only stay a few months and return.

  7. sesameB says:

    Kev, you are correct when you wrote: “Sleeping in the country is dramatically better for two reasons. It’s generally quieter and there’s no light pollution – that means it’s darker at night.” This is one of the many reasons, I relocated to the state of Arkansas in 1991!

    It is fitting that the “Natural State,” Arkansas’s official nickname, chose images of natural resources. Arkansas has an abundance of clear streams, rivers and lakes. In fact, Arkansas has more than 600,000 acres of natural lakes. Visitors to Arkansas can search Crater of Diamonds State Park for precious gems including, of course, diamonds. The mine at Crater of Diamonds State Park reportedly is the oldest diamond mine in North America, and the only one in the United States open to the public-visitors get to keep what they find. The autumn’s changing colors bring the Ouachitas to life! This is why I chose to leave the big cities to go wild here in the state of Arkansas in the Ouachita Mountains. Peak foliage occurs during late October and early November.

  8. Becky says:

    I am going to agree with the previous poster. I live in a rural area and I can’t agree with the cheaper food. At least unless you eat a SAD diet. Aside from a very small selection of organic produce (or even non-organic produce) I can’t get most types of raw nuts, raw nut butters, flax seeds, chia seeds, hemp seeds, irish moss, sprouts, kelp noodles…well you get the idea. I can’t even get collard leaves here. I have to do a large amount of shopping in the nearest city which is over an hour away. Or on the internet, which means that I am adding gas or shipping costs to my food budget.

    I like the easy access to nature in the country, but basically I think I am more a city person. Although maybe small towns in other parts of the country would fit my needs better.

  9. OM says:

    Pros and Cons to everything. Life is Short and Very Precious Do What Makes You Happy!

  10. sesameB says:

    Kev and AnneMarie, you are correct again in making this statement: Many people are irrationally afraid of flying (myself included), but choose to drive a car every day (which is much more dangerous statistically.)” I agree with you 100%. I have been car free for 25 years and counting. I attended two colleges without owning, buying or renting a car. I just finished Henderson State University in Arkansas, and lived in that small rural town again without a car. Driving a car everyday in this country is down-right dangerous, cases in point (from my files):
    Colleagues and family members mourn the loss of Brett Allsop
    BELLINGHAM — Well-known Bellingham businessman Brett Allsop was killed after his car ran off Northshore Road, rolled over and struck a tree Tuesday night, Aug. 18. Allsop, 38, was the chairman and co-founder of the online business Yapta and vice-president of the electronics division of his family’s business, Allsop Inc. He was driving a 2007 BMW 328 east on Northshore at about 10:15 p.m. Approaching a corner, his car went off the road. Allsop, who was wearing a seat belt, died at the scene. It was unknown Wednesday if drugs or alcohol were involved, said Washington State Trooper Keith Leary. An autopsy is scheduled for later this week. Allsop was a father of two and part of the well-known Allsop family, whose 44-year-old global business makes a variety of products such as laptop cases and cell phone accessories.
    October 12, 2008 AGING | WHITE PLAINS
    When Taking the Keys to the Car Turns Real
    EVERYBODY had a story to tell about trying to take the keys from an elderly driver. Paul K. Schwarz, a retired Scarsdale Middle School teacher, described meeting with angry resistance from his father, Herbert, every time he brought up the subject of driving. “My dad was born in 1907 in White Plains,” Mr. Schwarz said. “He would have been 101 and he might have made it, because he took really good care of himself, but his one real blind spot literally was the car.” There were small accidents, tickets and excuses — the senior Mr. Schwarz once claimed that a police officer must have been colorblind to ticket him for running a red light. Another time he blamed a faulty brake pedal for an accident. After he exited his driveway in reverse and crashed into a tree, Mr. Schwarz lost his insurance. Undaunted, he looked in the Yellow Pages and got reinsured. Paul Schwarz and his brother tried unsuccessfully to get their father’s doctor to intervene. They even talked about disabling their father’s car but ran out of time. His last accident, on the Hutchinson River Parkway, landed him for eight weeks in the intensive care unit, where he died in 1997 at the age of 90.

  11. sesameB says:

    Kev, I also stopped flying over a decade ago!
    A recent care in point: Wanda,65 and Thomas Parker,70 —
    Local couple dies in airplane
    crash in Arkansas

    Posted: 03/25/2011
    CARLSBAD — A well-known local couple died
    Thursday afternoon in the crash of their private plane near Hot Springs, Ark., according to news outlets there. Thomas Parker, 65, and his wife, Wanda Parker, 70,
    of the 2000 block of Mission Avenue in Carlsbad, were on their way to visit relatives in Arkansas, with Tom Parker piloting the plane. A Federal Aviation Administration spokesman, Lyn Lunsford, said the single-engine Cessna 182 crashed about 5 miles east of Hot Springs, its planned destination. Lunsford said Parker was in communication with air traffic controllers until about 14 minutes before the crash. He said Parker did not indicate there were any problems with his plane. There were no reports of injuries on the ground, a fact that came as no surprise to the Parker family back in Carlsbad. “Tom Parker was an experienced and very careful pilot,” the family said in a prepared statement on Friday. Parker was called “a hero for his actions in the last minutes of his life, successfully piloting his plane away from homes, but hit a tree.” Married for 40 years, the Parkers had three children: According to the family, Tom Parker was a decorated Vietnam veteran with the 1st Air Cavalry and holder of a Purple Heart.

  12. sesameB says:

    March, 19, 2011 — Raw Vegan David Steinberg, photographer (a close friend and long term friend and business partner of the Essene Elder and raw food gourmet author Victor Kulvinskas) who uses a motorized wheelchair and I visited with him getting spring water at the fountain in downtown Hot Springs, AR. David was in his wheelchair, but he got out of it to show me that he is cured and can walk. David told he was hit by a car in an intersection in downtown Hot Springs, Arkansas years ago, but went to Costa Rica to recover. David says he was with Victor Kulvinskas (spelling?) at his sanctuary in Costa Rica for healing. David Steinberg informed me that henow lives on Owley Road in Mt. Ida, Arkansas as I write.

  13. sesameB says:

    The car is a negative to our society, case in point:Sunday, April 13, 2008 – 2 men killed in car collision
    Two men were killed in a head-on collision late Friday in Auburn’s Lea Hill neighborhood. Police said the men, Sarbjit Singh, 25, and Mandeep Singh-Sran, 28, died when their Honda sedan crossed the center line and collided with a pickup. Police said speed was a factor. A father and two young children in the pickup were taken to Auburn Regional Medical Center for treatment of minor injuries, police said.

    And, there are people, who do NOT drive or own a car in this county, and have lived a successful life, one of many cases in point: She made a record keeping records
    MOTT, North Dakota – Louise Schmidt will walk out of the Commercial Bank of Mott today, and she should be forgiven if it’s hard to say much in farewell. She is 82. Today is her last day as bookkeeper and teller after 51 years. Schmidt didn’t add the numbers that way, but she is likely the most senior and longest-serving bank employee around these parts, or anywhere. She is gentle in manner, sweet of face, soft of voice and she takes no prisoners when it comes to numbers. She’s had a good life at the bank and a guardian angel to boot. The guardian angel didn’t lean over her books with an invisible eraser, but she did make sure that for 15 of those years, Schmidt got to those books. Schmidt is one of those women you hardly meet anymore who never did drive. She often walked the four blocks down to the bank past Gratzes’ house and the grocery store – six blocks when the bank moved up the street two years ago. But she walked more often after her husband, Lawrence, died in 1991.

  14. Dianne says:

    I do not think that most people choose the country because of fear of a national /manmade/natural crisis. Having said that, it is nice to know that there is more access to food and water. I have lived through floods, hurricanes, earthquake and tornadoes in our many moves and locations. The crisis that most people are talking about can last more than a month, but fear is not a factor for the choice.
    Cities and the country have their advantages /disadvantages and I enjoy both.
    I would not want to live more than 20-30 minutes away from cultural events. I do agree that food in rural areas that are 40-60 minutes away is more expensive, due to less competition. Other necessities can also be more expensive. Of course, housing may be cheaper, but as you stated, trasportation can make up for the difference. So, both can cost the same, unless you do not travel into the city often and grow your own food.
    I prefer some space for privacy when I need it and meditation in nature. Again, I do like to be within 30 minutes of the city.
    I do agree that it is easier to find like minded people in a city and more difficult out in the country, unless you luck up. There are communities in rural areas around Asheville that do have like minded people-vegans, yoga, etc.
    I think medium size cities like Asheville are a rare find. It is easy to find fresh markets, vegetarian food, art, raw food in large cities like LA and NY, but it is bliss when you can find it in a medium size city and still be able to have beautiful natural surroundings.

  15. sesameB says:

    Other cases in point:
    100-year-old Esther Persinger, never drove a car
    ALASKA — State park rangers kept an eye out for their neighbor, 100-year-old Esther Persinger. So did church folks, especially a couple who stocked her fridge every week. Police did regular welfare checks, too. Ms. Persinger lived across the Seward Highway from Chugach State Park headquarters in an old green cottage on state park land. Anyway, she didn’t want to leave her home and didn’t want a stranger coming in, either. She kicked out Meals on Wheels long ago, he said. Persinger was a tough old lady whose home didn’t have indoor plumbing or electric heat until the 1980s, he said. Before that, she relied on a wood stove and got water from a creek, which she had to cross to get to the outhouse. At a celebration for her 100th birthday, someone offered to help her with housework. “She stood up and said ‘I can clean my own place and I don’t need any help,’ ” Andrus said.
    She married late, when she was about 42, and she and husband Charles moved to Alaska more than 50 years ago, McQueen said. They had no children. Charles worked as a railroad cook and later for a guiding service at Tangle Lakes near Paxson, Andrus said. She went on jobs with him, living in a travel trailer. He died decades ago of cancer, McQueen said. In 1960 or so, they moved into the cottage on park land across from what is now Chugach State Park headquarters, the old railroad construction crew quarters once known as Potter Section House.

    And, A family of 4 — but no car
    By Sonia Krishnan Seattle Times Eastside bureau
    Seattle, WA. – The Petersons are a family of four from Issaquah. They like to hike, go to the movies, watch “American Idol.” A regular suburban bunch. Minus the SUV. Minus any car, for that matter. The Petersons don’t drive. They haven’t since 1987. No one in the family has a driver’s license. At 17 and 20 years old, the Peterson kids have never been behind the wheel. As the rest of the country frets over the highest gas prices in history, the Petersons carry on as usual, biking, walking and riding the bus wherever they need to go. “We’re not anti-car,” said Kent Peterson, 47. “We’ve just figured out that we don’t need one.”

    Lastly another timely article: Saigon’s man of many words
    A retired postal worker spends his days making sure friends, family and lovers get the message September 22, 2007 SUSAN PIGGASSOCIATE TRAVEL EDITOR
    Or you can stop by the post office to chat with Duong before he packs up his binder and rides his bike the two kilometres home one last time. He has never owned a CAR.
    HO CHI MINH CITY, VIETNAM–Duong Van Ngo is a man of the times who has survived life in this former war-torn country by adapting to change. He learned to speak French as a young boy when France ruled this coast of Indochina with an iron fist. And when American soldiers started strolling the streets, and parading through the bars of what’s still commonly called Saigon, Duong learned English. “I have had to change to work for every regime. I’ve been through many,” says the former postal worker with a quick smile.
    Since retiring 17 years ago, “the little corporal” – as he’s lovingly called because of his efficient manner – has made his way to this city’s landmark Main Post Office to help people sort through the most intimate details of their lives in three languages. You will find him there every second day now, sitting at a long wooden writing table, a bulging leather binder open in front of him and a pen at the ready.

  16. sesameB says:

    Charles a. Thomas, Jr. PhD of Pantox Laboratories, San Diego, was interviewed on the video “Living to 100”, a subject of longevity that as one age and continues to drive an automobile well into old age, the most likely that person WILL have an accident, which could be fatal. A stunning example of this fact was vegetarian:
    Helen Nearing. She and her husband and co-author Scott made history with their modern experiments in self-sufficiency. Together they wrote the bestselling book Living the Good Life,as well as Continuing the Good Life and The Maple Sugar Book. She has independently authored Our Home Made of Stone,Simple Food for the Good Life,Wise Words on the Good Life,and the Good Life Picture Album. Until her death, the result of a one-car accident on a rain slick road in rural Maine, Helen lived her last years alone in the stone house she and Scott built together on Maine’s rocky coast line. Helen was in her late 80s.
    Other cases in point of persons who lived long, healthy lives without owning or driving a car in this country (from my personal files):
    Wellesley gift to generate years of buzz
    Alumna leaves $27m, most for power plant
    By Erica Noonan, Globe Staff | May 20, 2005
    WELLESLEY — You won’t see a Leonie Faroll performing arts center at Wellesley College, or a sparkling new Leonie Faroll wing of the campus art museum, a Leonie Faroll endowed professorship, or a Leonie Faroll scholarship fund. No, Leonie Faroll, class of 1949, had other ideas when she left $27 million to her alma mater: to keep the power flowing through campus, the boilers pumping, and the nuts and bolts of certain college facilities properly greased and tightened. The amount of the final bequest was a shock because Faroll was an unrepentant penny-pincher, said Jeanne Theodore, a 1936 alumna of Wellesley. ”She was so penurious and miserly; she believed that people should spend very little money,” Theodore said. ”But she believed that education was the most important thing in the world. Wellesley and education were truly the loves of her life.” Raised at 1120 Park Avenue by well-to-do parents, Faroll was given shares of stock for her 10th birthday by her father, a Wall Street investor. From a young age, she invested her own money, later independently investing her parents’ estates. After leaving Wellesley, she ,a dedicated reader with a stunning memory for detail, Faroll loved classical music and held season tickets to the New York Philharmonic and the Metropolitan Opera. She rarely cooked, instead eating meals at neighborhood restaurants or at neighbors’ homes. She refused to pay for extravagances such as taxicabs, insisting on taking the subway to Wellesley alumni events, even during snowstorms. She rarely socialized and disliked being photographed or fussed over. College officials said they didn’t even have a recent photo of her.

    Thursday, May 12, 2005 –
    Couple dead in collision of 1931 Model A and 2004 Nissan truck– The Associated Press

    GRAHAM, Wash. — An elderly couple died in a head-on collision between their 1931 Model A Ford coupe and a 2004 Nissan truck in this town south of Tacoma, Pierce County sheriff’s deputies said. The two were identified yesterday as Leslie Cooke, 71, the driver, and his wife, Thelma Cooke, 74, both of Graham. They were pronounced dead at the scene Saturday afternoon following the crash near Frontier Junior High School, sheriff’s Detective Ed Troyer said. The driver of the truck and his daughter, whom he was taking to the school, escaped injury. Investigators do not believe alcohol or other drugs were involved, and “right now we believe it was a tragic accident,” Troyer said.

  17. sesameB says:

    Also, remember other examples are:
    What Is Love? A Simple Guide to Romantic Happiness by Taro Gold, a vegetarian. He was in a bad car accident years ago, which broke his neck and his father sustained massive injuries and died years later. (2005)

    However, in reading this book: Chuck Feeney Made and Gave Away a Fortune Without Anyone Knowing by Conor O’Clery, I learned that Mr. Feeney does not own or drive a car. He travels around the world with his second wife (no children), and they use mass transit and/or taxis. They stay in small apartments, mingle with friends and locals, he dislike big houses and cars! When in New York, he and his wife takes the train all times of the day and night, unto the disliking of his adult son (by his first wife). Pg. 264 of the book. In vivid, unvarnished prose, “The Billionaire Who Wasn’t” recounts Feeney’s meteoric rise from blue-collar beginnings in Elizabeth, N.J., to a perch as one of America’s titans of commerce, head of Duty Free Shoppers, the largest liquor retailer in the world.
    Doctors are guilty too!
    May 28, 2007 Lost Chances for Survival, Before and After Stroke By GINA KOLATA
    Dr. Diana Fite, a 53-year-old emergency medicine specialist in Houston, was driving her car and knew her blood pressure readings had been dangerously high for five years. But she convinced herself that those measurements, about 200 over 120, did not reflect her actual blood pressure. Anyway, she was too young to take medication. She would worry about her blood pressure when she got older. Then, at 9:30 the morning of June 7, Dr. Fite was driving, steering with her right hand, holding her cellphone in her left, when, for a split second, the right side of her body felt weak. “I said: ‘This is silly, it’s my imagination. I’ve been working too hard.’ ” Suddenly, her car began to swerve. “I realized I had no strength whatsoever in my right hand that was holding the wheel,” Dr. Fite said. “And my right foot was dead. I could not get it off the gas pedal.” She dropped the cellphone, grabbed the steering wheel with her left hand, and steered the car into a parking lot. Then she used her left foot to pry her right foot off the accelerator. She pulled down the visor to look in the mirror. The right side of her face was paralyzed. With great difficulty, Dr. Fite twisted her body and grasped her cellphone. Dr. Diana Fite, a 53-year-old emergency medicine specialist in Houston, knew her blood pressure readings had been dangerously high for five years. But she convinced herself that those measurements, about 200 over 120, did not reflect her actual blood pressure. Anyway, she was too young to take medication. She would worry about her blood pressure when she got older.

  18. sesameB says:

    Kev and AnneMarie, here are other real life examples:

    Vegetarian Lisa ‘Left Eye’ Lopes Killed In Car Accident
    TLC singer in fatal car accident in Honduras
    By Shaheem Reid, with additional reporting by Jennifer Vineyard
    Lisa “Left Eye” Lopes, a vegetarian, the most flamboyant and outspoken member of the multiplatinum trio TLC, has died, according to a spokesperson for the group’s label, Arista Records. Lopes was 30. The rapper/singer perished in a car accident late Thursday night while she was vacationing in Honduras. Lisa was driving at a high rate of speed and lost control. (2002)

    In 2005, sadly Joseph Connelly, Co-creator of the VegNews Magazine in San Francisco, California printed a story about a young animal rights activist, just 21 yrs old, who died in a late night car accident, and her boyfriend was injured. They were returning from a shopping trip in a nearby town.
    Editor Dave Klein, PhD of Living Nutrition Magazine, which is the world’s premier health periodical, dedicated to teaching health seekers how to eat their natural diet of alive raw fruits reported in one of its first issues (date uncertain) in early 2000 that a young male passenger, all raw vegan died in a head on collision in California.

  19. Purna says:

    In regards to noise pollution, not only is it louder in the city, but all those trucks, busses, sirens, etc. to which we are exposed are all on the high end of the frequency range that causes hearing damage. A ‘healthy’ noise level is that which is found in the country – or, an individual speaking to us. Scary stuff! My mother grew up in an extremely loud and busy city all her life – she now speaks loudly all the time, which I think is a result of undiagnosed hearing damage.

  20. sesameB says:

    Remember, according to John Robbins, we are 28th (The USA) in health and longevity on the list of the world. That is not good! Another cases:
    Purvis of Overtown is the compelling documentary – several years in the making – of a man who overcame destiny and a stint in Raiford State Penitentiary to become not only a highly acclaimed contemporary artist, but also an icon of black culture and history. Purvis first gained attention as an artist more than 25 years ago, when he began making large mural-style paintings on plywood nailed to the exteriors of abandoned buildings in Overtown. The money and accolades mean tlittle to him. He doesn’t own a car, never owned property and has never been married. He’s never left the United States and has traveled outside of Overtown only a handful of times. Purvis of Overtown has already won awards for both Best of Documentary and Best of Competition at the 2006 San Luis Obispo International Film Festival.
    A Life Well-Lived — Although she never learned to drive, Mrs. Young served as a librarian at DeKalb County Public Library for more than 30 years.
    The Weekly Post Published October 15, 2009 When visitors first step into Annie Young’s DeKalb County home, they immediately see her great love for her family and her skill as an artist.

    The walls and shelves of her home are covered with photos of her family, as well as examples of her own art work. At the age of 98, Mrs. Young has spent almost a century taking care of her family and creating beautiful works of art that she designed herself. There has also been a great deal of work, as well as learning and joy, in that near century.Born in 1911 between Sulphur Springs and Valley Head, Mrs. Young has lived here whole life in DeKalb County.”I think it’s the best place in the world to live,” she said.Mrs. Young and her husband raised a family of six girls and two boys in a three room house. The family had a hard time making ends meet, but Mrs. Young made a garden each year and sewed for the public. She also made all of the family’s clothes. One special dress, made in 1953, was worn at the high school graduation of all six daughters.
    The Rev. Timothy D. Wright was hurt Friday and his wife and grandson were killed.
    July 7, 2008 Church Shaken by Crash That Took Pastor’s Kin
    The 11:30 a.m. service at Grace Tabernacle Christian Center in Brooklyn seemed like most others there. Sunday school had just let out, and the parade of white-brimmed hats began to fill the pews. One was that of the Rev. Timothy D. Wright, the church’s founding pastor and an award-winning gospel singer, who lay in a hospital bed more than 150 miles away after being critically injured in a car crash on Friday. His wife and co-pastor at the church, Betty, 58, was killed in the accident, the authorities said. The couple’s 14-year-old grandson, D. J. Wright, who was also in the car during the accident, died on Saturday night.

  21. sesameB says:

    Here is another one from my files, which has been an inspiration to me in my own life as a car free person in the USA: Saturday, June 27, 2009 – Everett millionaire, waiter leaves rich gift to students

    Tony Bozich worked as a waiter and died a millionaire.He lived simply, in a downtown Everett apartment. He had no car, no TV, not even a telephone. He never graduated from high school. What he did have was a knack for investing in the stock market. “He read the Wall Street Journal every day. And he amassed a great deal of money — millions,” said Jack Decker, who worked with Bozich as his investment adviser for more than 20 years. A man of strong opinions, Bozich was troubled to see Japanese carmakers and electronics firms eclipse American companies. He believed our country needs more scientists and engineers.

  22. sesameB says:

    I met this person years ago, while I was in Texas at a conference, Mr. R. Lloyd, an employee at the Dallas Public Library, has never owned a car throughout his entire life and even after having earned a bachelor’s and two master’s degrees. He knows the DART schedule by heart. He gets everywhere by bus or train or by foot. Mr. Lloyd has traveled in 39 states and about 20 countries at this point. A wealthy patron offered to buy him a car just like hers, but he quickly declined. He ran some calculations and realized that even a free car costs quite a bit – fuel, insurance, license tags, and so forth. Mr. Lloyd manages to live a happy life without a car. But still, think of all he has missed: Road rage, license renewals, traffic jams, dead batteries, flat tires, car-washing, car buying, parking, leather seats in July, the CB radio craze, Chevy Vegas… poor guy.

    In Seattle, Washington George Ghang has become a bus-rider expert, attending training sessions to learn the ins and outs of every Metro program so that he could help other non-driving Chinese-speaking members of his community. When his wife, Audrey, left on a recent trip to Bejing, Chang worked out a bus route. “It only cost $2.50. Think about that.” he said.

    Retired public school teacher Thomas R. Drey Jr. lived humbly, never owning a car and spending much of his time at the library, studying the stock market. But, Mr. Drey quietly amassed a fortune at $6.8 million, and at age 73, when he died, he left all of it to the business branch of the Boston Public Library.

    In 2002, Philip Slater, author and retired sociology professor was featured in The Dallas Morning Newspaper. Slater is 75. He lives on Social Security in a rented 350-square-foot efficiency apartment. He doesn’t own a car, and by most definitions, he is poor. But he is also healthy, slender, handsome, active and in full possession of an engaged, synoptic mind. Former sweethearts, ages 91 and 92 wedded today in Bismarck, North Dakota and will honeymoon in Winnipeg, Manitoba. When they were teens, and would walk up and down the streets in their hometown of Abercrombie holding hands. That was dating, for them, in about 1930. Both don’t drive now, so they will take the bus or train. So, how are they going to get around Winnipeg? Maybe they’ll be on foot again, walking up and down the streets, holding hands. I met this author before she died, Ms. Oseolo McCarty, who never learned to drive in her life. I attended a book-signing event in Waynesboro, Mississippi. Ms. McCarty, the woman who never made it past the sixth grade, wrote a book, Osceola McCarty’s Simple Wisdom for Rich Living. For much of her life, this 88-year-old woman lived in obscurity, tucking away money she earned sweating over other people’s dirty clothes. Again, Ms. McCarty never owned a car choosing instead to walk a mile when she needed groceries. This longtime laundress donated $150,000 to a scholarship fund to help minority students attend the University of Southern Mississippi in Hattiesburg.
    Long ago, I learned in reading the book, One Hundred and Over 100, about Mr. Donato DiMatteo. Longevity does not run in Mr. DiMatteo’s family. His niece says that he has grown old because he never drove a car, never had any kids, never worried, and knows how to tune you out. “Just work hard, take whatever is coming”, says Donato. “I never thought about age much.” His niece testifies that he has always been free from cares and worries, working hard by day, gardening and playing the accordion in his free time.

  23. sesameB says:

    Driving Miss Melrose
    A bus patron for more than 50 years, she uses the ride to work to catch up with her friends
    By Bridget Murphy Tuesday, Jan. 27, 2009

    Non-drivers Melrose Ealey (right), 80, talks with her friends Lottie Brown (left), 70, and Jessie Mae Turner, 89, on a recent bus ride on her way to work in Ortega. The women, who routinely ride the WS-1 route, met each other and became friends during their time together on the bus.” Ealey walks to her job in Ortega. To get there by 8:30 a.m., she boards her first bus near her Sherwood Forest home about 6:15 a.m. She’s been riding buses to work for more than 50 years. Ealey (right) waits with her friend Lottie Brown, 70, at the main Jacksonville Transportation Authority terminal downtown for her bus ride to work in Ortega. There was a time when society expected Melrose Ealey and her friends to board the city bus and walk to the back. But on a recent Jacksonville morning that had them bundled against the cold, the three ladies got on a Westside coach and took a few prime seats in the front. This time, the seats were reserved just for them. It would be fitting, were it a penance for the wrongs that swiped at their dignity as they rode to their jobs as domestic workers for the well-to-do during the years of segregation. But at 80, Ealey and her friends Jessie Mae Turner, 89, and Lottie Brown, 70, qualify as part of a group that society aims to accommodate because of age.

    But, Car crash kills Mass. couple after visit to ice cream parlor
    By Michaela Stanelun and Maria Chutchian, Globe Correspondents | August 1, 2009
    An elderly Massachusetts couple were killed in a two-vehicle collision Thursday in Cumberland, R.I., according to Cumberland police. Authorities identified the victims as Charles Langille, 87, and his wife, Laurette, 77, of Foxborough.
    Laurette Langille was identified about 5 p.m. yesterday by the Rhode Island state medical examiner as the female victim, police said in a press release.
    The cause of the crash remains under investigation, the release said, but Police Chief John R. Desmarais said the couple’s minivan was turning left out of an ice cream parlor on Diamond Hill Road when they were hit by an oncoming box truck. Charles was operating the couple’s vehicle, and Laurette was in the passenger seat.
    “There was a box truck heading southbound on the road, which struck the minivan and killed the elderly couple inside,’’ Desmarais said.
    The driver of the truck was treated for minor injuries at Rhode Island Hospital in Providence. The driver’s identity was not released.

  24. sesameB says:

    another sad case from my files: Law & Disorder: Couple, ages 97 and 66, killed by car identified
    By The Times-Union
    The names of a Jacksonville couple killed when they were hit crossing 103rd Street on Saturday have been released by the Florida Highway Patrol.
    Nubark Nuhibian, 97, and his wife, Lillian J. Nuhibian, 66, were crossing the road at Harlow Boulevard about 6:30 p.m. when they walked into the path of a car driven by Elizabeth Jane Harmon, of Jacksonville, who was unable to stop in time, according to the Highway Patrol. Nubark Nuhibian was then struck by another vehicle. That driver left the scene and the police did not report if that person had been located Sunday.
    The two were on their way home from playing bingo at an area church, authorities told the Times-Union on Saturday.

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  26. sesameB says:

    Doctor surrenders medical license
    By Anne Blythe and Thomasi McDonald, Staff Writers
    RALEIGH – A Wake County doctor voluntarily surrendered his medical license and resigned from his job today as he faced a more serious charge of second-degree murder in the death of a 20-year-old ballerina. The North Carolina Medical Board, which licenses all doctors in the state, posted the surrender letter on its Web site from Dr. Raymond Cook. “I agree to return my license and registration certificates to the Board as promptly as possible,” Cook wrote in the letter. He also resigned from his faculty position at UNC School of Medicine and his employment with WakeMed Facial Plastic Surgery. This afternoon, Cook, who had been a plastic and reconstructive surgeon, turned himself in on new charges of second-degree murder after allegedly driving drunk Friday night and causing a wreck that left a Triangle ballerina dead. Cook, a Raleigh resident, previously faced charges of felony death by vehicle and driving while impaired.

    Zsa Zsa Gabor (92) is back home after six days at a hospital with flu-like illness.
    Zsa Zsa Gabor was a passenger in an automobile accident that occurred on November 27, 2002. She was initially reported as being in a coma when she was actually conscious at the time medical assistance arrived. She left the hospital in early January 2003, but required continued physical therapy. Gabor sued and was awarded $2 million.

    Crash ends 3 generations of Frisco family
    11:24 PM CDT on Sunday, June 28, 2009
    I’m angry at how the accident occurred,” she said Sunday. When their car was hit, Olson and the Hayes family were headed to Missouri for the funeral of Shelby Hayes’ great-grandfather, who died Tuesday at the age of 102.

    By VALERIE WIGGLESWORTH / The Dallas Morning News Shelby Hayes of Frisco died early Sunday morning, spelling the end to three generations of her family. Her son, her husband and her mother were killed Friday when a tractor-trailer plowed into a line of vehicles stopped because of an earlier crash on Interstate 44 in northeastern Oklahoma. The 35-year-old stay-at-home mom was trapped in the family’s vehicle on the Oklahoma turnpike for two hours and never regained consciousness at a Missouri hospital. “Two complete families got wiped out,” said Robin Bellemore, who lives across the street from Shelby Hayes and her husband, Scott, both of whom were only children. Shelby’s mother, Cindy Olson, was widowed and lived in the Denton County town of Crossroads.

  27. sesameB says:

    A sense of honor and grace Astronaut’s mother dies after her car is hit by freight train in Lombard By Catherine Edman | Daily Herald Staff Published: 12/19/2007
    Unless you knew Rose Tani was 90 years old, you’d never guess that about her.
    She was a study in perpetual motion: One minute baking pies for church, the next weeding her expansive backyard garden and giving away half the vegetables before going out for a family dinner. There was always some story about one of her kids — or grandkids — to share. And with an astronaut son, Dan, currently aboard the International Space Station, questions for Rose were always in abundance. She never shied from a single question. Not even those about being interned by her own government during World War II because she was of Japanese descent. The accident is almost unfathomable for a woman so attuned to details. Shortly before 3 p.m., Tani was stopped northbound on Elizabeth Street behind a full school bus coming from Glenbard East High School. They stopped for an eastbound train. When it passed, the gates went up, then immediately went back down, said police Lt. Jim Glennon. Tani, the only passenger in a Honda Civic, honked her horn, then drove around the bus. Her car was hit by a westbound freight train and pushed along the tracks before stopping near Sacred Heart Elementary School. Tani was taken to Advocate Good Samaritan Hospital in Downers Grove, where she was pronounced dead.
    MOCKINGBIRD A Portrait of Harper Lee. By Charles J. Shields. Illustrated. 337 pp. Henry Holt & Company. Harper Lee likes anonymity. While Nelle who is 84 yrs old, is in Monoreville, Alabama she spends most of her time at home reading. Inside the entryway of the Lees one-story brick ranch house are photographs of family members. But everywhere else are books: in a bookcase that takes up half the entrance hallway, in Alice’s bedroom, off the kitchen, and in Nelle’s blue bedroom at the end of the hallway. In her room, the walls are devoted to built-in white bookshelves, floor to ceiling. Nelle rides with her oldest sister, Alice, now 95 yr old, and still practices law, around town to do errands. In New York, Nelle is a Mets fan and an aficionado of museums. She’s also very knowledgeable about the city’s history, and stares out the windows of the buses, she takes everywhere—she peers them to taxis—examining the building and street scenes she has known for more than half a century. Nelle does not own or drive a car. Her favorite outfit for excursions, say, to a used bookstore, is a running suit, sneakers, and a big purse slung across her front. (p. 285-285)

  28. sesameB says:

    Jan 25, 2006 3:56 pm US/Eastern
    NY Says Goodbye To Andrea Bronfman
    by John Slattery NEW YORK (CBS) ? Andrea Morrison Bronfman, known for her spirit, drive and generosity was remembered Wednesday at a funeral attended by hundreds of mourners. Bronfman, the wife of Charles Bronfman of the Seagram liquor empire, was known to her friends knew her as Andy. She was 60 years old. Dr. Maria Theodoulou, an oncologist at Memorial Sloan Kettering in New York said of her friend, “An Incredible woman, philanthropist, a loss to all of us; a loss to the community, to society, to everyone.” Early Monday, while walking her dog on East 65th, Andrea Bronfman was struck by a livery cab. The car turned onto 65th Street from Fifth Avenue and hit Bronfman as she was crossing the street.
    Steve Hoover, 62; his wife, Sharon Hoover, 51; Steve’s son Paul, 34; and his wife, Maureen, 34, all of Fayetteville, were driving along the Mexican coast about an hour south of Cancun
    Four members of a family that left their marks on Fayetteville died as the result of a car accident Tuesday in what a Cancun, Mexico, newspaper called “ the worst accident so far in this year in the Highway of Death. ” Steve Hoover, 62; his wife, Sharon Hoover, 51; Steve’s son Paul, 34; and his wife, Maureen, 34, all of Fayetteville, were driving along the Mexican coast about an hour south of Cancun when the driver of a sport utility vehicle lost control, scratching a tourist van and then crashing into the back of the Hoover’s car, according to a translation of a news article from Novedades, a newspaper published in Cancun, in the state of Quintana Roo. “ It’s a huge loss to the community. They improved this community in every way, everything they did, ” said Sarah Terry, a family friend for six years. “ It’s a huge, tragic loss. Fayetteville won’t be the same. “ They were a great family with a great heart, and they’re absolutely going to be missed. ” The Hoovers left from Arkansas at about 10 a. m. Tuesday for a vacation in Akumal, Mexico, and had not yet arrived at their destination when the collision occurred, said Michele Rainey of Fayetteville. She last spoke to her daughter, Maureen, just before the family’s flight from the Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport. The wreck occurred near the city limits of Playa del Carmen, a city about 23 miles north of Akumal. No funeral or memorial arrangements are set yet, Rainey said, explaining, “ It’s going to be a couple days before they can even release them in Mexico. ” The younger couple were married May 26, 2001, in the meadow near Steve Hoover’s studio on Dead Horse Mountain Road. “ They would have made wonderful parents. They were at the top of their game, ” Rainey said of her daughter and son-in-law.

  29. sesameB says:

    2008– 92-year-old man killed in South Seattle when speeding SUV crashes into his car By Sonia Krishnan Seattle Times staff reporter
    A 92-year-old man was killed in South Seattle Monday afternoon when a speeding driver lost control of his vehicle, crashed into the man’s car and tried to flee, police said.
    The crash happened around 4:20 p.m. on Rainier Avenue South and South Holly Street.
    The victim was South Seattle resident Salvatore Vito Covello, said his grandson, Jeff Drake, of Olympia. Covello was driving east on South Holly Street near the 4600 block when a black SUV “traveling at a high rate of speed and possibly fishtailing” collided into his 1996 Buick, said Seattle police spokesman Jeff Kappel. The suspect hit the driver’s side of the Buick, “pushing it up on the sidewalk,” Kappel said. Covello was killed instantly. Shortly after the crash, the suspect, 23, ran north on Rainier Avenue South. Officers were able to find him and arrest him, Kappel said. Covello was coming back from an outing at the nearby senior center when he was hit, Drake said. “He wasn’t even a mile from his house,” he said. Covello spent his working years as a truck driver, delivering produce to Seattle-area grocery stores. He retired around age 59 and enjoyed a long retirement, Drake said. Although he was 92, and suffered some aches and pain, he was in good health and got around easily by himself, Drake said.
    Elderly woman dies after Portsmouth car accident October 21, 2007
    PORTSMOUTH, N.H. –An elderly Dover woman has died of injuries from a Portsmouth (New Hampshire) car crash. Police say 83-year-old Ella Giampa died yesterday, a day after the collision at Portsmouth intersection. According to police, The air bags in Giampa’s car did not deploy. Her 80-year-old passenger sustained non-life threatening injuries.Giampa drove past a stop sign and collided with another car at a 90-degree angle. The investigation into the crash continues.

  30. sesameB says:

    Senior was exploring the city when struck by car
    By Jessie-Lynne Kerr, The Times-Union
    The 91-year-old pedestrian struck and killed on her walker Wednesday afternoon in Jacksonville was known at Cathedral Townhouse where she lived as “quite the individual,” a woman up at 6 a.m. each day to go out and about to explore the city by bus. Dora Krone was a “powerhouse,” said David Whitney, community manager at the downtown high-rise for seniors, where Krone lived since 1994. Police initially reported Krone’s age as 101, but apartment and other records showed she was born in 1916. She was struck as she almost made it across North Main Street near the Trout River by a vehicle driven by an 84-year-old woman. Police said speed does not appear to be a factor and charges against the driver are unlikely. “If Dora needed something repaired in her apartment, she would tell me she’d be up by 6 each morning and to call her early before she headed out for the day,” Whitney said. “She walked all over the place or she took a city bus or our bus.” Fred McAfee, assistant director of operations at the apartments for the past 16 years, said Krone was very friendly and always on the go.

    Life of Hardship – Lifelong Non-drivers, Elderly couple does without heat,
    December 15, 2004 Eric Garza The Monitor
    Eulalia Gonzalez said she has never had a merry Christmas. No Christmas tree, no lights, no presents — not even a family dinner. “We never had any of that stuff,” Gonzalez said. “We would maybe sit together eating nopalitos.” Her situation has not improved since she was a little girl in Veracruz, Mexico, nearly a century ago. At 93 years old, Gonzalez said her life has been one of hardship. “We have nothing; there’s no one who will go to the store for us or no one to visit. No one even comes near. I’m like a stranger here — and all these people are my family,” Gonzalez said as she sat on a makeshift table outside her home Thursday afternoon. “The people who live around me are all relatives, but they never come by here,” Gonzalez said.She said her only visitors are the Adult Protective Services caseworkers who check up on her, and a woman named Blanca who occasionally visits to take Gonzalez to the grocery store. “Sometimes I think it would just be easier on everyone if I just died,” she said. onzalez said she constantly feels sick. Her head is always throbbing and her stomach feels like it’s been turned inside out, she said. Most recently an open sore on her foot has been added to her list of ailments.About 25 years ago, Gonzalez immigrated into the country illegally with José Conchola, a widower she had known for nearly 30 years.The two found their way into the northern end of Mission where Conchola built a small house for the two to live in along Victory Street.The house, a 10-by-10-foot room with just enough space for a bed and dresser, is where the two have lived ever since.”My whole life I’ve been made to suffer,” she said. “I don’t even have hot water to wash.” Even her bed, the one comfort she had in her home, has added to the hardships in her life.She said the mattress is starting to show its age as the bedsprings are starting to poke through.The green house is situated behind several other dwellings in the neighborhood.At first glance, most passersby would likely assume the structure is a storage shed or a tool room.Conchola used whatever materials were available to complete the house. The roof is a mixture of shingles, plywood and even scrap pieces of carpet used to cover holes. The nails holding the roof together poke through to the inside of the house. Luckily, both Gonzalez and Conchola are small enough to miss the nails jutting through the low ceiling. The house has no electricity. The power needed for the light bulb that hangs in the bedroom is supplied through an extension cord that runs from the neighbor’s house. Conchola, now 84, has since built two small additions, a bathroom and a kitchen. The bathroom is between the bedroom and the kitchen. The room has a ceiling that hangs less than six feet high and has just enough space for a toilet and mirror. There is no bathtub or shower. Instead, Gonzalez and Conchola use an aluminum tub to bathe.When it’s not in use, it rests against the bathroom wall.The bathroom is separated from the bedroom on one side by a bedsheet tacked over the makeshift doorway.It is separated from the kitchen on the other side by a screen door.Conchola said he would continue fixing up the house if he were able, but his age has made the work a burden he can no longer bear. His failing eyesight has even made shaving an impossible task.Conchola now wears a scruffy beard after he grew tired of cutting himself every time he tried to shave.Charitable acts for the couple, though appreciated, have not always worked out. Last month, a school group donated a turkey to Gonzalez and Conchola for Thanksgiving. But the two were forced to give the turkey away to a neighbor because they had neither the physical energy to prepare it nor a refrigerator to store it. Though there are a million things that could help bring a little cheer to Gonzalez and Conchola, there’s only one thing Gonzalez can think of that she would like to receive.It’s not new clothes or a refrigerator with some food inside it.It’s not a bathtub or some badly needed home repairs and improvements.Even though the two would benefit from all these things, there’s only one thing Gonzalez could think of.”A bed,” Gonzalez said. “The one I have is no good. When you lay down on it, you can feel the springs poking you.”

  31. sesameB says:

    Lifelong Non-driver Peace activist plans Alaska talk tour WITNESS: Kathy Kelly is a veteran of world’s battle zones.By DEBRA McKINNEY Anchorage Daily News **Published: October 5, 2006 **
    From the sounds of it, about the only time Kathy Kelly can get some rest is when she’s in prison. When she’s not, there are minds to open, wars to stop, a world to save. She’s been to many battle zones many times. She’s seen things no one should have to see and heard things no one should have to hear. Seeing the Holocaust documentary “Night and Fog,” with footage the Nazis shot inside concentration camps, had a profound effect on her. She vowed never to be a silent bystander while “unspeakable evil” goes on around her. She was still in high school at the time. After college, Kelly joined the Jesuit Volunteer Corps, hoping to work in Nome. But her father became seriously ill, so she stayed close to home and ended up instead in a rough Chicago neighborhood. Kelly earned a master’s degree in religious education from Chicago Theological Seminary and taught religion at a prep school.In 1982, she decided never to contribute a single cent to America’s military budget. By keeping her income below a taxable level, she hasn’t paid federal income taxes since. She doesn’t have much of anything. She wears secondhand clothes and shares a one-bathroom, walk-up second-floor apartment with five other people, all doing activist work. She doesn’t own a car. She never even learned to drive. The decisions she has made have helped her feel right with the world. She’d rather go to jail. If that happens, she said, “I don’t mind living with that.” It will give her time to rest — and to study Arabic.

  32. Helen (UK) says:

    Kevin – I listened to your Great Health debate and really enjoyed and appreciated it. I am now also enjoying and appreciating all these recent posts about country or city living…….I totally appreciate your absolute honesty and transparency and level of balance in all of your writings – you are a real Inspiration!

  33. hyesun says:

    thanks kevin, great articles! i’ve always been torn between country and city, as i love both. i grew up in albuquerque, went to school in manhattan, and now live in cincinnati. i do love big cities like boston, new york, san fran, tokyo, seoul, etc, because they are so vibrant. but when i went to hawaii 2 summers ago to work on an organic farm in a very remote, primitive area of the big island, it was heaven, even though it was a bit inconvenient as far as grocery shopping (we had to hitch hike 10 miles to town, where the natural store was). it was basically a self sustaining farm and we stayed in cabins with no windows, just screens. fresh air, the beauty of nature, sunshine, less emfs, much less light and air pollution, homegrown fruits and veggies and eggs. ahhh, i loved it. and there was close community, with the other farm volunteers. always someone to talk to or eat with. and i got to know the locals, who were awesome. the solution, i think, is to have homes in multiple places. 🙂

    one question that i have in the wake of all the events going on in japan is, how do you store gallons of non chlorinated water without it developing bacteria/mold, etc? could you do an episode on preparedness?

    thanks again!

  34. We alternate between living in the city and suburbia. to have advantages of both, though not the same time. We do not have a car and neither of us drive for economic, environmental, and social reasons.

  35. freedom fighter says:

    I am not afraid of social disasters, I just make sure I’m prepared. You can’t be in fear your whole life or your life will be a disaster from that alone. Me personally I like the country more for the fact of the land and really great country people who even given stuff away for free and have an honor system where you just grab your stuff and put your money in a jar. I also don’t mind the drives except the winter lol. Hey if your happier in the city then that’s great you can always travel to the country for a week or two. Cheers!!! PS. O yea I tried your body wash which is amazing please can you guys do an shampoo, I know it will be just as awesome as the rest of your products.

  36. Barbara W. says:

    I am definitely concerned about natural and man-made disasters and am currently in a mid- sized city. Thanks for this 2-part series, it was very thought provoking 🙂 Am really happy to hear you are both enjoying your new life in Berkeley.

  37. wendy green says:

    great post kevin.

    quoting the “talking heads”..”there’s a million ways, to get things done”…

    …i have chosen the path less traveled, and it has made all the difference.

    live your dream, no one can do it for you.

    i live in nature, because i love it.

    love you too kev and ann! <3

    (what's up with sesameB)??

  38. Rosie Haas says:

    I just received my copy of the NEW 3rd EDITION of STRATEGIC RELOCATION Only for GROWN-UPS who don’t think it’s “negative” to be aware.

  39. Rosemary says:

    Kev, You’ve really brought up some good points about community in the country. I live in the country but not in weather to grow great gardens. I’m looking to relocate to country with longer growing season. Finding like minded community will be interesting. I love hearing how you two make decisions and the criteria for choosing a place. I think about where to live every day. Thank you. I realize I am making my decision based on both love of growing food and gardening and fear of food not being abundant or available and crowds in the city looking for food. I know it is not the best way to decide but I can’t get the images out of my mind of food shortages. Must be past life. I’ve always had plenty great organic food to eat. I don’t like to make decisions out of fear. Good points that everyone has brought up.

  40. Jan C. says:

    Hi Anna Marie and Kevin,

    Earthquakes from a CA native. Information is out there:
    Put no mirrors or glass over beds. Don’t place bookshelves near exits. Anchor heavy furniture or bookshelves to the wall. Don’t have refrigerators on rollers. They will move in an earthquake! Want to chased by a refrigerator? Have a working fire extinguisher in kitchen, easy to access. Just a good idea. Have a wrench that can turn off the gas line if needed in an easy to access place. Have child safety locks on dish cabinets which can save your glassware. Be careful of opening glassware or dishes cabinets doors after an earthquake, they can all tumble out. Ouch! Keep some water on hand in case water lines break, but not what has happened so far and also have easy to fix food. Supplies should be enough to 10 days if you can. People don’t get in disasters it takes time to get help in, having supplies create comfort.
    Ride out an earthquake?
    where no building or trees can fall or
    used to be in doorway, however latest thought, if you lay next to a strong piece of furniture or desk, if the ceiling falls, a space of protection. If under furniture, possible collapse on top of you.

  41. Nadine Vorster says:

    Hi Kevin and Anna Marie
    City Or Country
    Living in the country is the definite answer where u can grow all the veggies and fruit needed. But city life has attracted people because of convenience.
    I personally would rather live in the country but South Africa is not safe as people are murdered for no reason at all. (Political)
    Fruit, veg, and nuts are very expensive in the city and not easily available ( I mean top quality) as the best is exported.
    We in South Africa we have to take what we can get and make the most of it
    I love your recipes but I am not always able to get the products that is available in your part of the world.

  42. Amanda says:

    Thank you for all of the articles and videos you guys do. Today, I wanted to send you something. I found this today when reading a Natural News article by Dr Mark A Sirus, that I think you will both find both shocking and interesting. It’s possible you may already be aware of the nuclear testing in your area but had to bring this to your attention in case you are not. A useful read for anyone in the USA, or in fact any human being. If we all work together, we can make changes for the better for all of humanity.

  43. susan says:

    I feel I can live in both city and country but prefer the country
    It’s good to always be prepared (water food warmth)
    Knowledge is self empowering as well
    does one know a few edible wild plants in ones area
    (even the city can have an empty lot with chickweed or lamb’s quarters)? Does one know how to make a simple solar still?
    how dependent is one on social systems to survive?
    many times one’s needs change, i prefered “Boonies” but when I relocated with my teenage daughter I had to be close to a school and shopping malls or I would have had a mutiny, now i’d like to move to a place like Costa Rico where my boyfriend has connections…in any event having a mobile way to make a living is key to making these choices with ease…Alot of people like living on the fringes of a city but getting the benefit of a sense of country
    here I am 5 minutes from a shopping center and a huge state park

  44. Louise Lin says:

    I’ve lived between Milwaukee and Chicago since 1965, when my husband at the time, and I decided we wanted to raise our children in a rural atmotsphere and get out of the city. We had the best of both worlds. Transportation to the bit cities was train or highway, an hour either way. Plays, museums, theaters, if you’re into that… and I am but I love the rural atmosphere.

    My kids all worked on farms, road horses, were involved in 4-H, the country things. I now live in a house that is one block from 2 differnt lakes, small ones. One half block from a woods I can walk in. It’s a small lake area where about 1/4 of the people live here only in the summer. I live in my vacation home year round. A park for grand kids.

    I just planted 7 fruit trees, that hopefully are supposed bear fruit this year. I’m going crazy with my new “thing” permaculture. My kids always say I have a new “thing” but everyone checks if I’m eating my fruit etc. I had a health scare with high blood pressur from eating SAD of course… Ah the addictive nature of my genes…

    71 and blessed to have the best of both worlds. I have family now in Austin, Santa Monica and Florida so witners I travel. A grand daughter I will visit in DC for the cherry blossom festival next week. She will be moving to the Phoenix area… lots of visiting…

    Thanks for sharing all you do Kevin and Ann Marie. Love hearing about you ups and downs in life… mostly ups. Bless you!!

  45. oreganol says:

    I think if people live in fear for economic collapse then they have some real issues that they need to sort out. You can’t live a happy and fulfilled life if you’re constantly living in fear. As individuals we have no control over whether there will be an economic collapse or not, so why worry about? By all means make some preparation in case it happens, but other than that just can on with your life. If an economic collpase does happen I don’t see how living in the country would help. I’d still prefer the city. If you are out of money and stuck in teh country unable to afford a car, you won’t even be able to get to the shops. In teh city nearly everything you need is withing walking distance.

    In the UK food is much more expense out in the country compared to the city.

    I also think you are wrong in saying that you are better off renting if you only plan to stay in the city for 10-15 years. This all depends on which 10-15 years they are and which city you are in. But in Londonproperty prices have tripled in teh last 15 years, so based on buying a £150K property, you would have made £300K by buying compared to nothing by renting. And your mortgage payments over that perios would have been less than renting would have cost you. If you are only staying a year or two, then it’s better to rent, but over a 10-15 year period you will almost always be better of buying. Just a few things for you to consider.

  46. Dianne says:

    It is important to live your life and not live in the city or country out of fear, you can create your environment with your thoughts.
    There is nothing wrong with being prepared for a disaster of any kind. Even something as minutiall as having spare batteries for you radio or a blanket in your car, if you live in a cold climate. Remeber Katrina?
    Wild greens growing in a spare lot in the city will not last long. Also, even if you are close to stores they may be closed dut to shortages of supplies or not electricity.
    I am in agreement, the city does have a lot to offer (if it is the right city).
    To each his/her own.

  47. sesameB says:

    Responding to: what’s up with sesameB)??
    1. What IS up with Sesame B? YOU ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR THOUGHTS CREATE YOUR ENVIRNOMENT-Your Choice—in reference to this comment , case in point –
    “The Essene Elder Viktoras Kulvinskas, M.S. often called the “Father of the Living Foods Movement”, Viktoras has been a pillar of the raw community for more than 40 years. Victor had two near-fatal car accidents in the state of Arkansas, one of which he totaled his wife’s van (2005), and she had to get another one. Months later, Victor ran a stop sign in Mt. Ida, Arkansas, and a man in a red truck plowed into him, unhurt Victor, but Ms. Youkta’s own Lumina, white in color van was totaled. Vitkoras has had a cataract eye operations on both eyes in Little Rock, Arkansas months prior to these accidents, as well as a double hernia operation! Victor no longer drives in the state of Arkansas. Youkta, his late wife at that time took the keys, and in her words she told me, “he is very humbled now”.

    2. what’s up with sesameB)??
    A lot. Thanks for asking. Read on below.
    I also learned a decade ago that according to Dr. Bella Dinh-Zarr, director of traffic safety policy for AAA, she said, “Motor vehicle crashes are truly the most overlooked public health threat in America today.” This statement was made in the article ‘Crash risk rises past retirement age.
    I have read Joel’s book long ago – (not this one) Strategic Relocation—Third Edition.

    Again, according to John Robbins, we are 28th (The USA) in health and longevity on the list of the world. That is not good!
    (2009) Raw foodist and athlete Kendall Black of Grand Prairie, Texas wrote in his email to me: I did refrain from having children, but the car is a necessity, unfortunately. I do not enjoy the automobile culture we have created. I would like to grow my own food, but don’t have time.

  48. sesameB says:

    For your information, I visited and stayed a length of time in Lac Castor/La Minerve, Quebec, Canada is in the Laurentian Mountains 120 miles Northwest of Montreal decades ago. I lived in a homey, rustic and cozy cabin which was located well away from the road. Indeed it was nice for sunbathing, and friends. The screened porch was an ideal spot for intimate meals, lazing, reading and, with its two cots, for sleeping. I found Canada much too cold for me, so I returned to the states.

    Back in the 1980s, I lived in a small cabin in an apple orchard in the city of Kettle Falls, WA, the nearby Kettle Falls which is located on the Columbia River, was once an ancient and important fishing site for Native Americans. The population of the city was 1,527 at the 2000 census. I was car free at that time, too, and use my bicycle to go to and from Colville, WA. This orchard produced so many apples one year that I just had to let most of them rot, because I could not juice and/or eat them all. I thoroughly enjoyed swimming in the river, and my daily walks among the apple orchards.
    After that I travelled in the early 1990s to Chena Hot Springs which is a hot spring, resort, and community in the Fairbanks North Star Borough, Alaska. The resort makes use of the first low-temperature binary geothermal power plant built in Alaska. Staying a summer in one of the resort’s cabin (without a car) was wonderful and a magnificent experience. I love country living. Bathing/soaking in the hot springs (healing waters) were AWESOME!! JUST AWESOME!!
    And, I still enjoy bathing/soaking and drinking the hot/cold thermal springs (healing waters) here in the state of Arkansas. I love the state of Arkansas, especially the countryside with the natural springs (wild water/healing waters flowing free). Remember, the Ouachita Mountains are a mountain range located in west central Arkansas, southeastern Oklahoma and north-east Texas. The range’s subterranean roots may extend as far as central Texas, or beyond it to the current location of the Marathon Uplift. Along with the Ozark Mountains, the Ouachita Mountains form the U.S. Interior Highlands, the only major mountainous region between the Rocky Mountains and the Appalachian Mountains. The highest peak. Mother Nature blessed the Ouachita Mountains with the most beautiful quartz crystal in the world. That’s why Mt. Ida is known as the Quartz Crystal Capital of the World. I enjoy attending the annual Quartz, Craftz, & Quiltz Festival, and World Championship Quartz Crystal Dig in October.
    I spent a year in San Lorenzo, Honduras in 1997 (car free). San Lorenzo has become one of the most developed cities in southern Honduras. Its economy is based around the seafood industry (shrimp), tourism and agriculture (watermelon, melon and other fruits). And, I sure enjoyed many, many fruits, veggies, and did a lot of sunbathing while living in Honduras during that time. No yoga practices! Bathing outside in the sunlight with well water in privacy, eating locally grown foods, walking for exercise, and sunbathing, sleeping in a hammock at night on the farm. I was NOT a tourist, and only went to the city to catch an airplane back to the states. These memories will be with me for a ‘fresh/raw’ lifetime.
    This article was a time read, and I am not the only woman in the USA who does NOT drive a car: ‘A Stand Against Wal-Mart and, for Now, a Victory ‘
    NYT (2008) wrote “Many of the women do not drive, and their children attend the dozens of yeshivas, or private religious schools here. Among the most observant families, home computers are strictly forbidden.”

    Love living in rural near the thermal springs in Arkansas especially, the Ouachita Mountains

  49. sesameB says:

    This is not a car free country, so we all have to be careful while walking and/or driving.
    Also, I went swimming in the Pacific Ocean in Honduras! I took my massage table and did massage outside by the sea in the sunlight. It was great! The beaches were beautiful.
    A few other inspiring real life stories from my files about being car free are:
    1999 Hanoi, Vietnam – Pham Quang Giang pedals 25 miles a day and hasn’t seen a doctor in 34 years – not bad for a 95 year old who spends much of his time naneuvering through Hanoi’s chaotic traffic. Phanm quang giang drinks tea at a road side stall while taking a break from his daily work as a ‘cyclo’ driver. Giang now lives with his fourth wife and two sons. His day starts at 5 a.m. with exercise and meditation, followed by a shower and breakfast. He has lunch at a sidewalk restaurant and returns home around 6 p.m..
    (2005) — Here in the city of Hot Springs, Arkansas a scary collision – emergency personnel helped Mildred Mazander, age 99, from her 1998 Saturn after she was involved in a two-car collision around 10:45 a.m. on Malvern Avenue and Lakeside road.
    (2006 ?) Sadly, Natural Hygiene practitioner Mrs. Bernice Davison, (wife, mother and grandmother) Director of the Health Oasis located in Tilly, Arkansas (has since died of a heart attack at age 89). She had a bad car accident in rural Arkansas prior to her death. She suffered broken ribs and broke an arm, and a nearby farmer heard the crash and rushed to her aide. She survived this crash, but died a year later as her husband told me on the telephone. The health Oasis is now closed. Her husband is still living and residing on the large property in rural Arkansas, eating raw foods along with fish and other supplements.
    In reading the book ONE HUNDRED OVER ONE HUNDRED, the author wrote: “John Lord says he has never had a car. I have never driven. I was never keen on it. I walked instead. If somebody asks me what should we do to live this long? I say, Be ye temperate in all things and remember that spoken word can never never be recalled and in all circumstances, keep your cool.” (pg. 37)
    Pedestrian, 84, dies after being hit by bicyclist
    Was crossing road near Boston home (2009) — An 84-year-old Boston man who was hit by a bicyclist Friday afternoon died later that night at the hospital, a Boston Medical Center spokeswoman said yesterday. Henry Haley was a vegetarian and used meditation to curb his reliance on insulin. He used to hug trees to feel their energy—that’s just the kind of person he was.
    However, Johan Marius Nicolaas “Johannes” Heesters is still alive, (born 5 December 1903) is a Dutch actor, singer and entertainer with a 90-year career, almost exclusively in the German-speaking world. In Germany and Austria, Heesters is mainly known for his acting career. As of 2011, aged 107, Heesters is the oldest performer worldwide who is still active, both on the stage and on television.
    And, on January 12, 2010 At a Mighty 104, Gone While Still Going Strong

    Joe Rollino once lifted 475 pounds. He used neither his arms nor his legs but, reportedly, his teeth. With just one finger he raised up 635 pounds; with his back he moved 3,200. He bit down on quarters to bend them with his thumb.

    People called him the Great Joe Rollino, the Mighty Joe Rollino and even the World’s Strongest Man, and what did it matter if at least one of those people was Mr. Rollino himself. On Monday morning, Mr. Rollino went for a walk in his Brooklyn neighborhood, a daily routine, and was hit by a car.

    One of my favorite designers to date is Ma Ke who is a Chinese fashion designer. She has two clothing labels: EXCEPTION de Mixmind, a ready-to-wear line started in 1996 and retailed in China; and WUYONG, a haute couture line founded in 2006. In 2007, Ma Ke starred in the award-winning documentary Useless by Chinese director Jia Zhangke. Ma Ke is the founder of Mixmind Art & Design Co, Ltd., based in Guangzhou, China. She currently works in her studio in Zhuhai on the southern coast of Guangdong province.
    I enjoy listening to “Johannes” Heesters sing via the Internet.

    what’s up with sesameB)??
    Hopefully, I have responded adequately.
    Its just good to be alive, surviving and well on planet earth — car free for me, of course.

    Use less, drive less and fly less now and well into the future.

  50. sesameB says:

    MORE ON THE LATE MRS. DAVISON, I just located my notes from my zip disk regarding my telephone conversation with her husband:

    The long term raw vegan wife and mother, Mrs. Davison, 88 year old, who lived in Tilley, Arkansas with her husband, on a farm where they raised 5 children was a resort director. Mrs. Davison has died at this time. According to her husband she developed heart disease, even though she was a raw vegan, and was forced to close the resort after 30 years in 2005. Prior to her death, she had a one car accident in rural Arkansas, where the suffered broken ribs and injured her collar bone badly. Mr. Davison said he tried to keep her from driving after retirement, because she had become weak in her body. She would not hear it, nor even from her oldest son. A year after the car accident, she died.

    AND, Brandy involved in fatal car crash Updated: 2007-01-25 10:15
    LOS ANGELES – Actress and R&B singer Brandy reportedly a vegetarian was involved in a fatal, four-car accident on a Los Angeles freeway last month that started when her sports utility vehicle hit another car from behind, police said on Wednesday.

    Car crash kills Mass. couple after visit to ice cream parlor
    By Michaela Stanelun and Maria Chutchian, Globe Correspondents | August 1, 2009
    An elderly Massachusetts couple were killed in a two-vehicle collision Thursday in Cumberland, R.I., according to Cumberland police. Authorities identified the victims as Charles Langille, 87, and his wife, Laurette, 77, of Foxborough.Laurette Langille was identified about 5 p.m. yesterday by the Rhode Island state medical examiner as the female victim, police said in a press release.The cause of the crash remains under investigation, the release said, but Police Chief John R. Desmarais said the couple’s minivan was turning left out of an ice cream parlor on Diamond Hill Road when they were hit by an oncoming box truck. Charles was operating the couple’s vehicle, and Laurette was in the passenger seat.“There was a box truck heading southbound on the road, which struck the minivan and killed the elderly couple inside,’’ Desmarais said.The driver of the truck was treated for minor injuries at Rhode Island Hospital in Providence.The driver’s identity was not released.

    Cars are Us America

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