Comments on: Is the Raw Food Diet what God Intended? – The Renegade Health Show Episode #443 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended Fri, 25 May 2012 04:01:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: John http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64994 John Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:21:13 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64994 Terrific! He's quite convincing and a great example of long-term success. Although I just eat mostly raw foods, I agree with him that it makes sense as our ideal, natural human diet. -- John Terrific! He’s quite convincing and a great example of long-term success. Although I just eat mostly raw foods, I agree with him that it makes sense as our ideal, natural human diet.

– John

]]> By: Elena http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64866 Elena Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:45:52 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64866 One of my absolute favorite interviews ever! I face a lot of the things he discusses in the Christian community, every kind of excuse they can come up with going straight to the bible. I always go back to the same place: Genesis 1! Awesome! One of my absolute favorite interviews ever! I face a lot of the things he discusses in the Christian community, every kind of excuse they can come up with going straight to the bible. I always go back to the same place: Genesis 1! Awesome!

]]> By: Richard Dennis http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64817 Richard Dennis Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:26:09 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64817 Hey Kevin, God is spelled with a capital "G". Blessings, Richard Hey Kevin,

God is spelled with a capital “G”.

Blessings,

Richard

]]> By: Marie1225 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64488 Marie1225 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:27:19 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64488 To #20 Michael T. I beg to differ with you the Holy Bible is the literal Word of God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth. The Garden of Eden was also a very real place, not mythical at all. Also a great flood covering the Earth actually makes great sense. www.answersingenesis.org To #13 Victoria I wholeheartedly agree with you. He really struck me funny when he said that about the Lord. I can tell you from personal experience that I have been healed from depression and migraines by God's hand. To #20 Michael T.

I beg to differ with you the Holy Bible is the literal Word of God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth. The Garden of Eden was also a very real place, not mythical at all. Also a great flood covering the Earth actually makes great sense. http://www.answersingenesis.org

To #13 Victoria

I wholeheartedly agree with you. He really struck me funny when he said that about the Lord. I can tell you from personal experience that I have been healed from depression and migraines by God’s hand.

]]> By: Katherine http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64152 Katherine Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:06:10 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64152 What are all the raw foodies gonna do when the US becomes the poorest country in the world and cant afford to import from all over the world? When oil runs out and all the water is contaminated and there is no fuel for making plastics and water filters and juicers? I guess Florida and California will survive and the rest of us Northerners will have to wither up and die like the industrial sinners that we are. Karma is God's strongest law....and we have generations of it to live out, so enjoy the raw food while you can...but make sure you are willing to eat some Spam too, you may just need it someday. What are all the raw foodies gonna do when the US becomes the poorest country in the world and cant afford to import from all over the world? When oil runs out and all the water is contaminated and there is no fuel for making plastics and water filters and juicers? I guess Florida and California will survive and the rest of us Northerners will have to wither up and die like the industrial sinners that we are. Karma is God’s strongest law….and we have generations of it to live out, so enjoy the raw food while you can…but make sure you are willing to eat some Spam too, you may just need it someday.

]]> By: Katherine http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64151 Katherine Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:54:30 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64151 I love hearing everyone's thoughts...so many passionate people! However, I do get tired of the explanation that humans should be more like animals. "Animals eat raw...Animals eat fruit and vegetable..." We are not just like animals. We dont have a lot of fur and hair on our bodies. We have the ability to make fire, to hold knives, and to create supplements to help our digestion. Aren't those all "God given" gifts too? Yes our hands are great for picking fruit, they are also great for wielding a knife to skin a deer. Which use is righteous? You can decide for yourself by observing your own body. I just get tired of some of the arguments for humans that are based on the habits of mice and squirrels. Last I checked I was about as different from a mouse as a fish is from a bicycle! Eat what you want...there is more "sin" in fixating on bodily health than there is in eating junk food. What are you doing with your health? Are you serving the poor? Are you dancing with joy? Then that is righteousness. I love hearing everyone’s thoughts…so many passionate people! However, I do get tired of the explanation that humans should be more like animals. “Animals eat raw…Animals eat fruit and vegetable…”

We are not just like animals. We dont have a lot of fur and hair on our bodies. We have the ability to make fire, to hold knives, and to create supplements to help our digestion. Aren’t those all “God given” gifts too? Yes our hands are great for picking fruit, they are also great for wielding a knife to skin a deer. Which use is righteous? You can decide for yourself by observing your own body.

I just get tired of some of the arguments for humans that are based on the habits of mice and squirrels. Last I checked I was about as different from a mouse as a fish is from a bicycle! Eat what you want…there is more “sin” in fixating on bodily health than there is in eating junk food. What are you doing with your health? Are you serving the poor? Are you dancing with joy? Then that is righteousness.

]]> By: David Smelser http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64060 David Smelser Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:16:18 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64060 There may have been a time when the earth had much of it's water in the sky which would have made the temperature fairly uniform and presumably comfortable. Energy needs at the time of the garden of Eden, would have been low so eating a fruit or vegetable now and then would not have elevated insulin much, but upon the flood and an ice age, energy needs and availability of plant foods changed dramatically. Although man was obviously originally designed to be vegetarian for the most part, the only ones to survive the last ice age were the ones that evolved to become 90% meat eaters. A minister in the south might be able to get along pretty well on raw fruits and veggies but many of us have much greater energy needs which might require the more concentrated zero glycemic calories of fats. There may have been a time when the earth had much of it’s water in the sky which would have made the temperature fairly uniform and presumably comfortable. Energy needs at the time of the garden of Eden, would have been low so eating a fruit or vegetable now and then would not have elevated insulin much, but upon the flood and an ice age, energy needs and availability of plant foods changed dramatically. Although man was obviously originally designed to be vegetarian for the most part, the only ones to survive the last ice age were the ones that evolved to become 90% meat eaters. A minister in the south might be able to get along pretty well on raw fruits and veggies but many of us have much greater energy needs which might require the more concentrated zero glycemic calories of fats.

]]> By: PE http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64058 PE Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:58:14 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64058 So Earth is some 6000 yrs old? Not million let alone billion, thousand? And when the great mythic Flood (stolen by the bible writers from the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh) destroyed all the plants, human survivors were forced to eat animals, which were living on... ummmmm junk food? Imports? Promises? Maybe credit... I think the Rev was intended to eat crow. But he'd never notice, taking the word of Moses, or someone else with the same name, over good sense. But in the world of prehistory it's true Neanderthals may (or not) have been done in by a diet too high in meat. And hominids may have come about by eating it, the way chimps often do. Lucky for us, evolution had no intentions. So Earth is some 6000 yrs old? Not million let alone billion, thousand? And when the great mythic Flood (stolen by the bible writers from the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh) destroyed all the plants, human survivors were forced to eat animals, which were living on… ummmmm junk food? Imports? Promises? Maybe credit…
I think the Rev was intended to eat crow. But he’d never notice, taking the word of Moses, or someone else with the same name, over good sense.
But in the world of prehistory it’s true Neanderthals may (or not) have been done in by a diet too high in meat. And hominids may have come about by eating it, the way chimps often do. Lucky for us, evolution had no intentions.

]]> By: Demetra http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64051 Demetra Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:45:24 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64051 This is a good discussion- I appreciate what the reverend has to say and I think that the raw diet is right for some. Thankfully, the issues we have today are the same issues Paul addressed in his letter to the church in Corinth almost 2000 years ago. In 1 Corinthians 11:23-33 Paul talks about the Believer's Freedom, that is, the freedom of a follower of Jesus to "eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience." I believe that Paul says this (due to Acts 10:9-16 when Jesus appears to Peter in a vision and declares things that were once unclean are now clean to eat) because nothing should be an unnecessary stumbling block for people to believe in Jesus. We should decide for ourselves, in our own conscience what is right for us to do in this situation. God did not make a commandment to eat meat or to not eat meat- it is for us to choose. We also should not judge another believer's decision about what they eat based on our own convictions (1 Cor 10:29-30). Most of the reverends scriptures were from the Old Testament, but we know that Jesus came and delivered a New Covenant, making it possible for people from all backgrounds to believe. We are under the New Covenant, and we can learn much from the former, thank God. Ultimately, I hope we will all do as Paul says in verse 31, "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God." I know that I can work on being better at that, myself. This is a good discussion- I appreciate what the reverend has to say and I think that the raw diet is right for some. Thankfully, the issues we have today are the same issues Paul addressed in his letter to the church in Corinth almost 2000 years ago. In 1 Corinthians 11:23-33 Paul talks about the Believer’s Freedom, that is, the freedom of a follower of Jesus to “eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience.” I believe that Paul says this (due to Acts 10:9-16 when Jesus appears to Peter in a vision and declares things that were once unclean are now clean to eat) because nothing should be an unnecessary stumbling block for people to believe in Jesus. We should decide for ourselves, in our own conscience what is right for us to do in this situation. God did not make a commandment to eat meat or to not eat meat- it is for us to choose. We also should not judge another believer’s decision about what they eat based on our own convictions (1 Cor 10:29-30). Most of the reverends scriptures were from the Old Testament, but we know that Jesus came and delivered a New Covenant, making it possible for people from all backgrounds to believe. We are under the New Covenant, and we can learn much from the former, thank God. Ultimately, I hope we will all do as Paul says in verse 31, “So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.” I know that I can work on being better at that, myself.

]]> By: Nick http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/11/19/is-the-raw-food-diet-what-god-intended#comment-64026 Nick Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:59:16 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1988#comment-64026 Some blame it on our lack of fur, but there are other ways to warm ourselves & eating/drinking at 105 degrees is plenty warming enough even to restore our core body temp from hypothermic levels. God sun ripens our fruits, veges etc. That seems enough like cooking for all animals, fish, birds--all life forms, except humans. So who's out of step here? & yes, there's the problem for us northerners whose foods are picked green then unnaturally ripened en (1000 mile) route. But that's tangential to the argument that raw is nature's way, most evidently. The colour of our foods attracts us; the structural integrity reflects the nutrients are intact. It's about the biggest DUH tho that is hardest to come to terms with, against the force of habit, the comforting nostalgic resonance of a good ol' home cooked meal, yada blah, yada blah. But we will overcome, yay! Some blame it on our lack of fur, but there are other ways to warm ourselves & eating/drinking at 105 degrees is plenty warming enough even to restore our core body temp from hypothermic levels. God sun ripens our fruits, veges etc. That seems enough like cooking for all animals, fish, birds–all life forms, except humans. So who’s out of step here? & yes, there’s the problem for us northerners whose foods are picked green then unnaturally ripened en (1000 mile) route. But that’s tangential to the argument that raw is nature’s way, most evidently. The colour of our foods attracts us; the structural integrity reflects the nutrients are intact. It’s about the biggest DUH tho that is hardest to come to terms with, against the force of habit, the comforting nostalgic resonance of a good ol’ home cooked meal, yada blah, yada blah. But we will overcome, yay!

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