IMPORTANT EPISODE: Today, I finally address the flu vaccine issue publicly…
I’ve been holding out for more data. I like to make sure I do enough research to ensure that what I say is as responsible as I can make it.
Many people wonder if the flu vaccine really works, in fact some medical researchers wonder too.
Does taking a jab in the arm (or a nasal spray) of a flu vaccine really prevent death from the flu? Here’s what the alternative (or in this case, maybe more accurate!) scientific studies say about the effectiveness of the flu shot.
Here are my thoughts…
(And PLEASE pass this along to a friend or family member who is a flu shot advocate… it may change their minds…)
Your question of the day: What are your thoughts on the flu vaccine (will you get one)?
Click here, scroll down to the bottom of the page and leave your comments now!
To read more about this, please read the article on in the Atlantic here:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200911/brownlee-h1n1
And Mike Adams’ summary of the same article here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_vaccines_flu_vaccine_.html
4:34 pm on October 15th, 2009
This is what I think about it:
http://canrailsscale.com
4:54 pm on October 15th, 2009
NNNOOO on the flu shot for me! ;D Thanks for this video and all others… great info!
4:57 pm on October 15th, 2009
You have some good points about the research you have cited, with regard to the flu vaccine and death rates. However, you have not addressed the ability of the vaccination to slow or halt the spread of the flu in general.
This isn’t just about preventing death (although that is a good goal) it’s also about , well, preventing an illness that takes people down for several days.
And its about halting the spread of flu viruses to reduce the opportunities for those viruses to mutate into forms which could potentially kill more people.
The case has been made before that pharmaceutical companies are profit driven with regard to vaccines. the fact is they make very little on vaccinations. You’re good at research so I’ll leave it to you to look this up . These companies would be better off letting everyone get the flu and then providing medication to treat it…. that would be far more profitable.
I for one, have done the homework on vaccines as well… And I see no evidence that vaccines are harmful in general, either flu or childhood vaccines, and I am happy to do my part to halt the spread of disease. Who wants to get sick? So I get the flu vaccines every year and so does my family.
Cheers for tackling what is a highly controversial topic, I just can’t figure out why it is one. Seems like a no-brainer to me. **scratches head**
4:57 pm on October 15th, 2009
check out Gary Null’s documentary Vaccine Nation
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6531447125053615129#
MWA
4:58 pm on October 15th, 2009
They are toxic ! I had one about 10 years ago. Got one of the worst flues of my life shortly thereafter. It’s just injecting toxins into the body. Better off eating lots of garlic, onions, greens, etc.
4:58 pm on October 15th, 2009
Hi Kevin, I agree with you that the most important thing is to BOOST our immune system, get plenty of exercise, get enough Sunshine:), have a great attitude – be grateful, and plenty of great water. Unfortunately, since most people are not eating vital, fresh, raw organic foods, nor breathing clean air, nor drinking clean water, etc. etc. they may need to consider a so called flu shot. We use Silver Colloidal the minute we feel anything minor and it works miracles…one dropper full in water.
“Before 1938 colloidal silver proved to be useful in treating over 650 different infectious conditions.” Tonita d’Raye – see http://www.1inhealth.com to order her book “The Wonder Cure, Time forgot”
4:58 pm on October 15th, 2009
Thank you for this valuable information Kevin~ I don’t plan on getting a FLU Vaccine
5:03 pm on October 15th, 2009
Absolutely NOT!
5:04 pm on October 15th, 2009
AND THE PEOPLE who think like you do hear you. Most know its a money scheme. But those uninformed not so healthy and maybe older people will take the flu shots because their doctors said so. Oooooooohhh, when will people catch on our immune system is diet related. Thank-you for making the effort to change the world one step at a time. Lee
5:08 pm on October 15th, 2009
No flu shots for anyone in this home!!!
5:12 pm on October 15th, 2009
Thanks for the info. I was going to get three this year but I think I’ll just cut back to one
5:13 pm on October 15th, 2009
First let me see my doctor and his kids taking the vaccine. In the meantime we are boosting ourselves with Vitamin D and lots of other goodies
5:14 pm on October 15th, 2009
Personally, we won’t be getting the vaccine for all these reasons and more.
Also, in response to #3. Getting the mild sicknesses exercises the immune system and ultimately strengthens the whole body. This provides the body with the best immunity from future illnesses. Preventing a weak person from ever getting sick won’t work, they will get sick and it will hit them harder for being weak. Make yourself stronger in all aspects.
5:16 pm on October 15th, 2009
Great show Kevin. Yes, everyone do your homework. Personally, I am not getting the flu shot. I have never had the flu in my life. I am immune and I will not allow a vaccine (live or killed virus) to be innoculated into my body to protect me against something I have never had. I am very vigilant with my health, hand-washing and avoiding sick people (just while they are ill). I watch my diet carefully. The media is stirring people into a panic. Thank you for having the resolve to bring up these touchy topics.
5:18 pm on October 15th, 2009
The 12 year old in the room here–my g-friend’s kid–said “you can’t die from the flu, unless there’s already something very wrong with you”. Hmmm, out of the mouths of babes, as they used to say.
I never do anything for a cold or a flu when i get one. I just ride it out, slow down if i have to, drink more fluids, more sleep, take better all around care.
This whole approach, of our allopathic (western medical) system, is so you can carry on “business as usual”, as is too often said. Suppressing symptoms only morphs them, makes them fester underneath your sensitivity radar, then complicates them eventually into disease complexes.
Then the side effects of vaccines & pharmaceuticals, generally, will whip up other symptoms, rationalizing more phar-meds into a vicious cycle, BTW, the liver is surely not to like (due to chemical toxicity–pharms are from motor oil, no?).
So if something’s wrong with your life it’s probably caused by the liver ;-(you)-:
5:24 pm on October 15th, 2009
More than 60% of doctors avoid flu shots. That speaks for itself.
5:24 pm on October 15th, 2009
No one in our family has ever had a flu vaccine nor has had the flu. My mother who worked in a hospital (late 70’s) was required to have the flu shot and that year she got the flu. Yet I, who lived with her and help nurse her and did not contract the flu. As well, my husband who was in the military (early 90’s), was required to have a flu shot, however never showed up to get it, and as a results, was the only one who did NOT get the flu in his unit.
So needless to say no one will be receiving a flu vaccine in our home.
5:30 pm on October 15th, 2009
NO WAY! I feel like they can cause more harm than good.
5:36 pm on October 15th, 2009
Thanks again, Kevin, for addressing this issue.
I agree with Mike Adams of Natural News & Gary Null, among others, when it comes the vaccine issue. I have never had a vaccine since infancy, and never will, as long as I can help it.
Peace and Health to all!
5:41 pm on October 15th, 2009
Never had a flu shot and never will.
Don’t you think that the fear generated by the media, big pharma, etc. is enough to kill a few thousand?? Sad how they handle it.
Thanks for all the great info – and all your great shows.
5:42 pm on October 15th, 2009
No way I would get one. I don’t trust the drug companies…here are my links to add.
Thanks for you video as well – I will add to my list of resources.
Dr. TenPenny’s Swine Flu Hype Page
Why You Shouldn’t Vaccinate Your Children Against the Flu
Swine Flu Shot Linked to Killer Nerve Disease
Half of Children Given Swine Flu Vaccine Have Side Effects
Flu Vaccine Exposed
Does the Vaccine Matter?
5:49 pm on October 15th, 2009
I did not get a flu shot, but I did get a Pneumonia shot. Does anyone know if the Pneumonia shot really works in those aged 65 and over?
5:51 pm on October 15th, 2009
well done in presenting the facts. The critics of your inferred stance towards vaccines, saying things like “its a no brainer” worry me massively. They are assuming this vaccine is effective at stopping the spread of the virus – this is foolish and classic arrogant “i have a science degree so i think i understand science” I have more than one science degree myself and still are of the opinion that on balance, nature knows best. There is no real evidence to suggest this vaccine can help, there is evidence to say it may not. Lets have them do the RCT. It speaks volumes this hasnt yet been done. Its unethical not to do this research.
5:56 pm on October 15th, 2009
Thanks for your comments so far guys!
Thanks for your comments, Shannon…
Wanted to point out that as of October 7th, 2009 there have been 440 million global orders of vaccine from GlaxoSmithKline. This is to the tune of $3.5 billion dollars. This is almost 8% of their previous year’s reported income of $44.85.
Just wondering what an 8% increase in salary would do for any renegade health viewer’s personal bottom line?
In terms of research on the dangers of vaccines, please look into Squalene and Thimerosal, which are both ingredients in the H1N1 vaccine.
Mike Adams has some information on this in this article as well as many others…
http://www.naturalnews.com/027019_H1N1_pregnant_women_mercury.html
Honestly the real argument lies here… many people don’t give money to Walmart because of their price slashing practices. Many people don’t buy again from a company because of bad experiences.
So do you want to continually give your money to companies that have had a histories of deceptive practice?
Here’s just one recent incidence of deception…
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/09/02/pfizer-settles-off-label-uses-promotion-and-kickback-charges-for/
It’s up to you, I vote no.
Kev
5:57 pm on October 15th, 2009
It’s ALL about the $ IMO. The U.S. pumped $1B in May-ish to help develop the swine flu vaccine. There was an article earlier today that I read on abcnews regarding the amount of income pharma, insurances, and doctors expect to receive this year on flu/swine flu vaccines. Quite ridiculous.
Drug companies have sold $1.5B in swine flu shots. $1B in regular flu shots.
Taxpayers are footing the $1.5B check for 250M swine flu vaccines.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/big-business-swine-flu/story?id=8820642&cid=yahoo_pitchlist
5:59 pm on October 15th, 2009
I don’t think vaccinations are needed . I really think it’s scary that our governments want to use a vaccine that they haven’t tested on people (in a double blind study) and give the priority to pregnant women, children and the elderly – that’s hitting the population at both ends – before they have a chance in life and near the end of their life – that’s crazy as far as I am concerned!!! Thanks Kevin for addressing this issue!!
6:00 pm on October 15th, 2009
no way! Eat raw food and keep your immune system strong with mushrooms and other super potent vitamin c sources like camu and incan berries and you’ll be fine. havnt had a flu shot since i was a kid back in school. that was the also the last time i’ve gotten the flu…hmmm…go figure.
6:07 pm on October 15th, 2009
They are poison!
6:21 pm on October 15th, 2009
Absolutely no vaccines of any kind for myself or my family. Why would we do such damage to our DNA? To save a few days of work time? It takes 3 generations of non-vaccinating to get the DNA back to normal.
My ex-boss, the holistic MD, said I’d be surprised if I knew how many doctors didn’t vaccinate themselves or their family but legally they must promote and offer them to patients. She had a private practice so was able to avoid this scam which is all it is.
There is no proof that a flu vaccine or any other vaccine for that matter actually works to prevent illness. If you look at it historically you will that diseases were on the decline before vaccines were invented.
I can still remember the absolute horror I felt when I found out that vaccines contained mercury. I had already vaccinated my child for one year. Thankfully I found out when I did.
Dr. Andrew Moulden has some irrefutable evidence that vaccines cause mini-strokes. Mary Tocco has made the best documentary I’ve seen to date. You can watch it online and PLEASE do: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6351515212287981735#
It’s quite long but don’t be put off by the length. This information may save someone’s lives. Countless people have died needlessly or suffered horrible consequences due to ignorance. Even doctors themselves don’t know a lot of this. They learn from the drug reps. Dr. Blaylock did a good interview on this matter. He’s done the research and there is no proof that vaccines work or are safe. He says most doctors are not aware of it because they don’t read all the journals and studies or know how to put together the pieces.
Listen to Dr. Gabriel Cousens on vaccine efficacy and homeopathy (what we use): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGps1FpY6qI&feature=related
It’s downright irresponsible to vaccinate once you know the facts so be sure to learn the TRUTH and not some propaganda put on by people who are profiting from this.
6:21 pm on October 15th, 2009
A lot of the other posts are right on! Don’t get the vaccine! Keep yourself healthy with your food and activities.
If you choose the vaccine then don’t say you were not warned when you find your health deteriorating. There are hidden agendas that go beyond money behind this push.
6:22 pm on October 15th, 2009
No for us on all flu shots! Used to get them for special needs daughter if we were flying at Xmas. But after no problem handling the swine flu as it went through our house, we will never again.
6:27 pm on October 15th, 2009
I have never taken the flu vaccine, never have had the flu, and will not in the future take any vaccinations. I to be quite honest, I still dont eat all that well. I feel that people get the flu more from the vaccine than if they dont take it! Once a virus enters someones body, it changes because of the individuals immune system. Its trying to survive. So every person that gets the virus, its a bit different strain then the next person! Thats how it survives year to year! Also, know what is “IN” the vaccines. A lot of murcury and crap! It can cause other problems besides what the vaccination was intended for! Same as tetnus shots! Reasearch research research before you take any shot!
6:27 pm on October 15th, 2009
Hi, I’m from New Brunswick Canada. I’m 54 and I only took flu shot once about 10 years ago and I got sick right after. I’ve noticed that every time I take care of my health I don’t get the flu of just get it a little or I will just start to get the symptoms like if I was starting to get sick but the next day or a few days after it is gone while a lot of people gets it real awful. I have learned that I am my own best doctor as long as I don’t get into a bad accident or something like that and need someone to put me back together and sew me up otherwise I try to stay clear of doctors, hospital and junk food and visit health food stores often.
I also learn a lot form you guys; you do a great job and a great service. Thank you
6:28 pm on October 15th, 2009
One more thing. It’s actually beneficial to get a fever now and again as it will heat the body high enough to kill off unwanted bacteria and viruses. On the rare occasion I’ve gotten a flu, I’ve always felt way better afterwards and for a long time thereafter.
Homeopathic flu nosodes anyone? You can get a big bottle for $14 from http://www.drz.org. Look for the 2009/2010 edition which contains H1N1 strain as well as others.
Flubusters is another brand of homeopathic flu remedy. If you need to go to work and can’t manage to have flu symptoms, that one can be taken at first sign of flu or if you’ve been around someone with the flu.
Don’t take this as medical advice. Do your own research and if you have a competent health care provider discuss it with them.
6:29 pm on October 15th, 2009
Kevin, check out David Ickes theory of swine flu shots. http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/25191 . Very conspiracy theory, but interesting to read.
6:31 pm on October 15th, 2009
I live in Massachusetts and recently a laws was passed mandating vaccination. If necessary, I am prepared to be incarcerated rather than be vaccinated. I am highly opposed to mandatory vaccination. Since beginning quality supplements over 10 years ago, I have had NO illness at all. NO flu; NO colds; NO respiratory issues whatsoever. Eating properly, alkalizing the body, boosting the immune system through stress management techniques such as meditation and exercise — these are the tools I use to maintain and enhance my health. I’m glad that you presented the information so clearly as to the risk of getting flu and succumbing to it. What a statement about our society that it should require flu shots and all its attendant costs! Let’s educate ourselves and our communities. Armed with the facts, I am optimistic that common sense will prevail.
6:31 pm on October 15th, 2009
I read an article by a reputable doctor that vaccines cause brain inflamation for 1 year. Each time a person gets a flu vaccine their brain is inflamed, then the next year they get the vaccine again, causing the brain to stay inflamed continually. Not good! The statistics tell me that if a person gets the flu vaccine every year for 5 years in a row, they have increased their chances of getting Alzheimers Disease by 1000%. That’s right: one thousand percent! Don’t do it if you want to stay in your right mind.
6:36 pm on October 15th, 2009
Thank you for what you are doing — i wonder what it will take to get enough people to recognize how the population just continues to be manipulated — so greedy corporations, and paid off politicians can keep raking in their dirty money….. the citizens of this country are viewed as little more than lab rats by the wealthy interests that pull the strings of our government —- i have a question for you —- how do we get people to stop allowing themselves to be blatantly ripped off — in the name of “bail outs” and “too big to fail” and just handing over a billion dollars of tax payer money to drug companies for “expediting” flu vaccines —- the last couple years we went through the greatest transfer of wealth in history — the rich got richer — and the regular guy got $crewed. I feel sorry for anyone that thinks they are benefiting from a flu shot —–
6:41 pm on October 15th, 2009
No flu vaccine for me. Eat heathy meals, exercise and get proper rest.
Oil of oregano, vitamin D, North american ginseng, i take these supplements during the fall and winter months, natural and healing to my immune system.
6:42 pm on October 15th, 2009
Oh wow that Vaccine Nation video someone posted is really heartbreaking.
This is serious stuff, esp for parents.
6:48 pm on October 15th, 2009
I am totally against vaccines. My mother took the flu vaccine every year for at least 2 decades, probably more. I believe it contributed to her dementia/memory problems.
6:57 pm on October 15th, 2009
No vaccines. Much more potential risk than flu.
6:59 pm on October 15th, 2009
Why would I spend all my time eating well, only to give myself an injection later. I have more faith in my body’s ability to be healthy than in a pharmaceutical company.
Maybe a shot is insurance for those of us who don’t take as much care and are alittle worried about paying for their lifestyle.
7:00 pm on October 15th, 2009
I absolutely will not take any flu vaccine. NaturalNews has come out with a ton of stuff about this. I personally know people who have become very ill from taking flu vaccines. Kevin, asking for more research won’t help – it would be slanted just like for all the other pharmaceuticals. It seems like Big Pharma doesn’t need much proof of anything to get their drugs on the market.
Thanks for your show.
7:03 pm on October 15th, 2009
No way am I getting a flu vaccination.
Good data you gave us. Was surprised you didn’t discuss what is in a vaccination like mercury.
7:06 pm on October 15th, 2009
Viruses such as the flu are continually evolving. This is what makes the flu incurable and so hard to prevent. So, it is more or less a gamble that the flu shot you receive will protect you against the current season’s flu. They use the most recent strain to create the vaccination, but you aren’t getting the vaccine until about 6 months later. I agree with Shannon that the pharm companies would make more money giving out highly toxic drugs such as tamiflu and levoquin to treat the flu than they do in vaccinating the public. However, this does not mean that we should all get vaccinated. You still only have a 50/50 chance (if that good) of being immunized against the current seasons flu.
I myself have received the flu shot in the past and it has been successful (maybe), although I don’t intend on getting one this season. What is more concerning to me is the H1N1 vaccine which I think was created way too fast and has some potentially harmful ingredients in it. I have found an alternative by a company called “King Bio Homeopathics”. This is by far the best and most effective line of homeopathics that I have used. They have come out with “Influenza Multi-Strain Flu Medicine” which is intended to prevent or treat all of the registered flu viruses to date: including H1N1 and the Avian strain. I am planning on using this to vaccinate myself and my 3 year old daughter. Hope this helps!
7:06 pm on October 15th, 2009
No flu shot for me, thank you…. and I’ve done my homework! Thanks, Kevin for your information.
7:07 pm on October 15th, 2009
Thanks so much for covering this issue. Would love to see you do a follow up with some info on thimerosal and squalene for those who are not aware of the potential health risks of these adjuvants. No vaccine for me. I’d rather take my chances with good nutrition and building immunity in a healthy way.
7:09 pm on October 15th, 2009
If you think you are a vegan and you take vaccines you should visit the cdc website and read the ingredients…..kind of nauseating.
7:10 pm on October 15th, 2009
No way! They are poison. Too bad majority of people are still too trustful or naive or not responsible for themselves, and have not acquired the ability to question everything and come up with the answers by listening to their bodies and intuition…
7:11 pm on October 15th, 2009
Well if you look a little deeper you’ll find that all vaccines are harmful. Of all of the groups who avoid vaccinating their children such as the Mormons, Mennonites, etc. there is no record of SIDS, ADD, & ADHD. There is only one case of autism in this group, but that child was given a vaccine at a local clinic in Ohio. There is plenty of information available regarding the components that make up vaccines. Things like mercury, formaldehyde, unidentified genetic materials, etc. How about the SV40 virus included in the Polio vaccine, which Salk thought was an acceptable risk, yet it’s only known function is to cause cancer. Jonas Salk was a member of a eugenics group too. Consider the Aldus Huxley talk given at UCLA-Berkley where he said that they would get the common man to love their servitude & unable to reason for themselves and do so through the use of the needle.
It’s time to wake up & stop listening to so-called experts and think for yourself. You can find a lot of links to articles, videos, & audios, plus book references that Alan Watt used in his research on his website. Check out Alan’s website at: http://www.CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com/ and begin a journey that will save your life!
7:14 pm on October 15th, 2009
As has been stated, boost the immune system with living, vital food, pure water and maybe some beneficial supplements. Be happy, positive and enjoy the sunshine when possible.
My mother-in-law has been frantic to get her flu shot because of all of the media hype on this issue. As I am her care giver, she is so concerned that I will make her sick without receiving one. I, on the other hand, am concerned for her since she doesn’t do what is needed to boost her own immunity. She gets a flu shot every year and every year she’s ends up in the hospital for flu symptoms.
On a related subject of helping our immune systems, The Raw Food World show on YouTube had a segment this week on fermenting vegetables that looks really simple. Not to take away from the shows with Donna Gates and maybe the way she prepares hers is more beneficial, but Angela Stokes-Monarch demonstrates a really easy method to produce cultured veggies.
Thanks for addressing this topic.
7:16 pm on October 15th, 2009
NONONONONONONONO!
The truth is you won’t spread this “flu” by not being vaccinated. You WILL spread it by being vaccinated and going through virus shedding for the next several weeks. Another truth they (pharmacon) have spent $$$$$ to create a product that will insure their future profits for your lifetime. They don’t care if you live or die only you pay them before you do die!
True the vaccine or mist may not kill you outright, but it WILL kill you later by setting you up for future diseases, illnessess, and autoimmune complications which will kill you. This insures they have you as not only a repeat customer, but a customer for LIFE. They can “treat” you over the years you survive for all these things they caused by giving you the wonderful vaccine/mist and bankrupt you before you die! It’s a no brainer hu? Well use your brain and for once THINK FOR YOURSELF. If you don’t they will. STOP being sheeple and be YOUR OWN PERSON.
Remember the “Swine flu 1976″? The only ones to get GBS or die were the ones VACCINATED! Before that “Spanish Flu”, which should have been called Fort Detrick Flu since it really started there on base with the military and not in the civilians until they too were vaccinated! The ones to survive “Spanish Flu” were the ones who used alternative – homeopathic remedies. Those who relied on modern medicine died. Best advice WASH your hands with lots of plain soap and hot water. Don’t use antibacterial anything it’s not useful. Also AVOID hospitals, clinics, doctors’ offices, and places sick people go.
If you want the vaccine/mist I won’t stop you, but by damn DO NOT try to force those of us who do not want it into getting it! The only ones you need worry about spreading Swine Flu, H1N1, whatever it is to be called next, are the ones that are vaccinated.
7:17 pm on October 15th, 2009
OK – an off-the-subject update
….its SNOWING in Connecticut – - right NOW!!!!! UNBELIEVABLE – Oct 15!!!!
7:20 pm on October 15th, 2009
Nope to the flu vaccine for myself or my children, who are unvaxed. I’m okay with us getting sick (though none of us has had so much as a simple cold in over 4 years), because I know that getting sick allows our immune system to actually strengthen, increasing it’s ability to fight the next virus or bacteria that comes our way.
7:21 pm on October 15th, 2009
My husband and I never get flu shots and we have never gotten the flu. We are not vaccinating our toddler daughter either.
I believe that if we keep our bodies strong and healthy and practice good hygiene we will either be immune to such illnesses or we will be able to fight them in a short period of time with proper care and rest.
I already give my daughter echinachea, zinc and vitamin C daily to boost her immune system because classrooms are full of all kinds of germs.
I dont feel comfortable exposing my body or hers to some vaccine when I dont know exactly what is in it. How long did it take before they realized putting MERCURY in children’s vaccinations as a preservative was harmful?
Advocates for the vaccines are always like y take a chance, but I feel that way about getting the vaccine– It seems far riskier to keep exposing ourselves and our children to this pharmaceutical junk that has been largely untested/studied than to take care of ourselves.
If we do get the flu, in any variation, it will be obvious– extreme fever, chills, exhaustion. It is very hard not to catch it quickly, and if you do, you can seek medical attention then and most will be just fine.
But what if taking these vaccinations every year for years, especially for children during the formative years, causes some sort of insidious health issue that no one knows yet because guess what, there are no long term studies???
So my bottom line is that perhaps in a decade if they have actually proven these vaccines genuinely safe and effective, then I will consider it. But until then, nope, not for our family.
7:22 pm on October 15th, 2009
I think colloidal silver is the better way to go. I will not be getting any vaccines. They contain mercury, aluminum, polysorbate (a preservative), aborted fetal cells, and live attenuated virus. I have also heard that they contain a formula for rendering one infertile/have a terminator gene in the mix. I am not a GMO experiment! I also have heard that there is a little nano transistor inside the vaccine that would get into your body. This is real, not sci fi. This info can be found on the David Ickes show as well as others.
I’ll take colloidal silver (CS) any day. It kills multi pathogens (unlike the vaccine which is supposed to be specific to just a handful of viruses). CS is easy to make for 36 cents a quart when you have your own generator. CS also has a several thousand year old history of usage given that the Egyptians used to put their water in silver flasks and then put it out in the Sun.
I would also like to recommend Dr. Mayor Eisenstein’s newsletters to learn about the latest happenings with Vaccines across the globe at http://www.lifehealthchoices.com/index.php
7:42 pm on October 15th, 2009
We do not take flu shots. We take spirulina (via Green Vebrance). If I die, I die.
7:50 pm on October 15th, 2009
That would definitely be a no for me. I haven’t had a flu shot in years and I have never caught the flu.
Welcome to New Mexico!!!!
8:00 pm on October 15th, 2009
Hey Kev,
Thanks for opening up Pandora’s box.
My reasons for NOT getting the vaccine:
Canada is to use the adjuvanted GlaxoSmithKline H1N1 vaccine Pandemrix, which contains both squalene and thimerosal. Thimerosal is highly implicated in autism and is a proven neurotoxin. It has 25000 X the level of mercury that would be considered toxic if it was a food or drink. Dr. Kent Holtorf, an expert on infectious disease said on FOX News (I am not supportive of Fox news) that the risks are too great and would not be giving it to his children.
Pandemrix has also been fast tracked based on research only using mock up bird flu vaccines dating from 2007 and 2008.
The Canadian government, like those of the US and the UK, has agreed to protect the producer of it’s H1N1 vaccine from lawsuits over potential side effects.
The majority of cases of swine flu in Canada have turned out to be mild, with the virus having been linked to 79 deaths. The seasonal flu usually kills around 2000 people per year in Canada.
Top 10 recommendations for prevention of the Flu (copied from MD Frank Lipman’s article Swine Flu: What To Do?)
1)Optimize your vit D level – Adequate levels of Vitamin D are essential for our immune systems to function optimally.
2)Get adequate sleep, this is an indispensable requirement for a strong immune system.
3)Get adequate exercise, this keeps you robust
4)Take actions to lower your stress levels
5)Wash your hands frequently but not excessively
6)Avoid sugar and processed foods as they decrease your immune function dramatically
7)Eat phytonutrient rich meals (lots of colorful salads and dark greens)
8)Eat lots of garlic, it works as a broad spectrum antibiotic.
9)Take a probiotic daily (look for one with 10-20 billion organisms. A strong immune system relies heavily on having a strong foundation in the gut.
10)Make sure to have a supply of colloidal silver on hand – colloidal silver is a potent antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral agent
11) Keep a supply of antiviral herbal supplements on hand. As opposed to antiviral drugs, antiviral herbs do not cause resistant strains because they are multifaceted and contain literally thousands of different medicinal compounds. Andrographis, Olive leaf extract, Grapefruit seed extract and Elderberry extract, all have antiviral properties.
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8:02 pm on October 15th, 2009
Hi Kev! Nope!! No flu shot for us here either!
At least until they can make them without harmful chemicals and are proven to work!
8:05 pm on October 15th, 2009
I’ve only gotten the flu shot one time (when I was in college) and I ended up getting sick anyways! I won’t waste my time or money with it anymore now and just take my chances from now on.
8:08 pm on October 15th, 2009
absolutely not!
8:12 pm on October 15th, 2009
Your research is interesting and informative. However, as another reader opined, the idea behind inoculation is to prevent the disease and the mortality numbers do not address the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of the vaccine. I took my first ever flu shots this year as well as the pneumonia vaccine at the urging of my insurance company nurse. Considering that UHC (my health insurance) picks up the entire cost of the vaccination and they are not known for their largess, I suspect that they have actuary tables that prove that immunized insured members cost less money in the long run…. I completely agree with proper nutrition and immune system boosting, etc. I’m also pretty skeptical of conventional medicine and question many of their advise, dogma, etc. Still, there is no need to throw out the baby with the bath water. I think these vaccines are useful and effective in preventing the onset of the disease and perhaps lessening the severity of it when you catch it. Also, they are most likely not toxic and poisonous. True the pharmas are into making money but I don’t go as far as believing that they are actively attempting to poison and kill all their clients.
Thanks for the information and please continue to raise awareness and question the conventional wisdom.
8:18 pm on October 15th, 2009
It’s heartening to see how many people are enlightened about the deception of our “health care” system. How can we trust these vaccines, when we read other items like this most recently found – “newly unveiled court documents reveal that ghostwriters, paid by Weyth, a pharmaceutical company that marketed hormone drugs Premarin and Prempro (with sales of $2 billion in 2001 alone) prepared the articles which were then rubber stamped by doctors, who were cited as lead authors. Wyeth faces over 8,000 lawsuits from women who claim that the company’s hormone drugs caused them to develop illnesses.”
That’s nice to hear.
The influenza homeopathic remedy I use is Gelsemium simpervirens.
Supplement Monolauren (a coconut extract)is excellent for stripping the outer shell of viruses.
And lastly NAC – all very effective and affordable solutions.
8:32 pm on October 15th, 2009
I wish I would have known what was in vaccinations before I allowed my son to be vaccinated and within days exhibit the same symptoms as mercury poisoning “autism” check this funny but true video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5GS7nZi924
heres some more facts about flu vacination from Dr Maecola
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/13/Dr-Oz-Helps-Shill-the-Flu-Vaccine.aspx
8:37 pm on October 15th, 2009
Thanks so much for the show, I couldn’t agree with you more. NO WAY here too!
8:47 pm on October 15th, 2009
No I am not going to do it. I have done my research. I am taking vitamin D and Goji berries for my immune system.
8:49 pm on October 15th, 2009
I’m 60 years young and I have never had a flu
shot and don’t plan on ever getting one. I don’t remember ever having the flu, although I might have when I was a child. I eat healthy and trust my immune system to protect me. If I do get sick, I’ll ride it out and let my body build up a natural immunity.
8:53 pm on October 15th, 2009
I am NOT getting any flu vaccine! People think I am nuts when I tell them I am not! My sister is a nurse and actually works in an immunization clinic, all day long, she give vaccines!!!! I have tried speaking to her but she believes all the lies! No sense. I would love to see those in ‘charge’ take the vaccine!
8:59 pm on October 15th, 2009
Hi Kevin,
You are so right about the PROFIT behind the whole flu vaccine! As I’m sure you have already read Mike’s article last week, here is the story. Read up people, then decide for yourself.
http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_vaccines_flu_vaccine_.html
Also, read Dr Robert O. Young’s books, The PH Miracle, Sick And Tired, The PH Miracle for Diabetes, and others.
http://www.phmiracleliving.com
Keep raw and alkaline. No disease can live in an alkaline environment…..PERIOD!
Thanks for all that you and Annmarie do for everyone! God Bless!
9:00 pm on October 15th, 2009
Had a flu shot once in my life and became very sick. Swore never again did not know what I know now. Will not accept it if it was free, and it is at work. But still refused.
9:16 pm on October 15th, 2009
I made up my mind a while ago that I will never get a flu vaccine again. I think I’ve had 3 shots in my life (48 yrs), I’ve had the flu once, and it was in the summertime.
Flu shots are history.
9:37 pm on October 15th, 2009
What will happen if Canadian and American governements force people to be vaccinated? They cannot put everybody in prison if they refused. I just wondered.
10:14 pm on October 15th, 2009
HECK No!
I have been to a dr twice in 30 yrs…both times to give birth..20 & 13 yrs ago..that’s it!
No shots, for anyone here…myself nor my kids.
Have waivers for school so no shots of any kind here.
10:28 pm on October 15th, 2009
Flu vax? NO.
Everyone has said lots and lots of good things, but I will add just a couple more thoughts. One, I was trained allopathically, then was trained homeopathically. The way pathology is viewed by allopaths is totally different that the view by naturopaths….I’m probably not saying anything new here. But, what I want to make very, very clear, is that allopaths truly believe that suppressing the body’s responses is “maintaining health.” Au contraire! We actually need to assist the body in it’s absolute Divine and magical processes, which are perfect just the way they are! Yes, the way of our world, the environment, the foods we eat, and many other factors (including genetic disposition) contribute to the level of health one possesses. Homeopathic remedies do wonders to strengthen and balance one’s constitution. A strong constitution will remain that: strong. If illness does occur, the body, in its wisdom, will do just what it’s supposed to, and will fight the intruders.
I cannot think that vaccine upon vaccine upon vaccine (to the power of what?) is healthy. ESPECIALLY when they are given to children who don’t even possess a fully functioning immune system!!!! Is it any wonder that there are so many auto-immune diseases and children on mental/mood stablizers?!
Thank you, Kevin, for bringing this topic to the forefront. I suggest, if anyone really wants to understand the flu, get the book, “The Homeopathic Treatment of Influenza” by Sandra J. Perko, PhD, CCN. Not only does it discuss homeopathy, but she does an amazing job of charting the historical aspects of the epidemiology and treatment beliefs of the flu. And, yes, the mortality rate with homeopathic treatment was less than 1%, while the allopathic mortality rate was greater than 50%!!
So, there you have it, according to my perspective! If anyone is made to take the vaccine, remember, you can’t take it if you are allergic to eggs. (For all of you folks out there who don’t know how the vaccine is made, let me tell you: it takes one egg to make one vaccine. And, yes, they use aborted fetal tissue to incubate the vaccine within each egg. How humane is that??!! I would imagine that the Karma of participating in that sort of treatment would be enough to scare anyone!!!) Here’s my vote for homeopathics and all the other natural suggestions everyone has offered!!!
10:47 pm on October 15th, 2009
Absolutely not. Here’s another link:
Tim O’shea at The Doctor Within:
http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/swine/swine-flu.php
10:49 pm on October 15th, 2009
Not me either. My doctor asked me if I wanted the flu shot. I gave her a funny look and she shook her said and said, oh you don’t do those either. I never have and don’t plan on starting. Who really knows what’s in those things including preservatives?
11:19 pm on October 15th, 2009
NO I’m against them as well. At least one type of vaccine out there has aborted fetal tissue used in it. Some vaccines have blood used to grow the virus from other animals. I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t want pigs blood or horse blood in my body. Plus such things as mercury based preservatives etc. When they use the blood of animals like monkeys to grow viruses for vaccines the blood many times is contaminated with many other types of viruses such was the case with the oral polio vaccine (if I remember correctly) I have heard countless people tell me they got the flu vaccine and then got sick. It knocks the immune system for a loop and then leaves the person wide open for illness. Sherry Tennpenny has good info, vaclib.org used to be online but I’m not sure if they are still there or not. Len Horowitz and there are many others out there sounding the alarm against vaccines. I’m sorry I don’t have time right now to read all the posts but it sounds like most everyone knows what the score is out there. All this comes from a medical professional who they are trying to get to take the vaccine.
11:26 pm on October 15th, 2009
I’m old enough to remember the last swine flu panic in the 70’s. A good friend of my husband’s died – not from the flu but from Gullain Barre Syndrome that resulted from his flu shot. So I say no thanks.
11:36 pm on October 15th, 2009
I’m 58 and have never had the flu vaccine nor the so called terrible flu. I believe the vaccines are the cause of many flu outbreaks and they contain poisonous ingredients, not to mention animal and human embryo DNA, formaldehyde, mercury and the list goes on. Look it up.
I agree with the 12 year old girl who says no one dies from the flu unless there is something all ready wrong with them.
Keep your immune systems up and strong and you will be fine:)
11:55 pm on October 15th, 2009
My research into a more healthy lifestyle began because of vaccines. My son is deathly allergic to eggs and many vaccines are cultured in egg embryos. I started wondering if my son couldn’t have them, do we really need them?
Since then I regret ever following allopathic protocol for my older 2 children (my younger 2 were stopped of all vaccines before 12 months).
I have so many issues with vaccines on so many levels! First, they contain live viruses. But viruses are not “living” (this is learned in any microbiology class) and only exist in a host. We become that host. As I’ve taught my kids, if you inject it into you-it lives, if you squirt it on the floor it cannot remain alive for very long.
Next, besides thimerosol, there are a lot of other toxic ingredients including aluminum, and ethylene glycol-aka antifreeze. On a moral note, some also use aborted fetal tissue (yes its true-I have the pdf files from the drug companies listing the ingredients used) bovine serum (yes from cow’s blood) and the list goes on. If I am to be a good Catholic/Christian, I have to abhor the use of these ingredients.
In response to Shannon, the only halt to disease is a healthy lifestyle with plenty of fresh raw fruits and veggies and plenty of vitamin D. Seriously, there is no evidence any vaccine has ever halted any disease-tho’ they claim to have, if you read your history, most can be attributed to better sanitation, drinking water etc…Not drugs.
The school systems just this week sent home permission slips for the H1N1 vaccine. My children have been versed to leave the school and call for a ride if for any reason they may be forced to receive the vaccine. I will go to jail first!
Even our pediatrician thinks that vaccines are safe-for my allergic son even tho’ his specialist said “absolutely never, ever.” She is just another pusher for the drug companies believing the propaganda. I find it very sad and frustrating.
One last comment. My older in laws complain every year they always seem to be sick after getting the flu shot. I told my mother in law last year its because its a live virus and if you are not healthy in the first place you are going to get sick. She insisted it was not the live virus, and of course I argued with her. She finally called her doctor to find that it was the live virus. My immune compromised sister in law with lupus among other things, and my father & mother in law still believe in the vaccine and are ready to get it asap. They will be sick yet again this year.
Most people refuse to believe the truth even if it is in front of them because they have been programmed by mainstream media and their all knowing doctors to believe and do what they are told and not think for themselves.
That is just another tragedy of this hoax.
11:59 pm on October 15th, 2009
I believe as soon as you decide to get a flu shot, you are telling your body that you don’t trust it. What you believe and what you say have incredible power.
I believe that my body is powerful and I will not get the flu!!!
My neighbor had the flu shot a few days ago and she is sick in bed right now!!!
12:02 am on October 16th, 2009
oh one other thought-
In one of the medical buildings on the UofI campus there is a sign posted in the hallway that says
“if you can’t drink it, don’t dump it” referring to down the drain in the labs.
It is a federal crime to dump toxic ingredients down the drain, but yet we are allowed to inject them into our systems. I just never understood that!
12:41 am on October 16th, 2009
I totally agree with you, Darlina.
Last year I took homeophathic remedy for flu prevention and all my family got flu from that, so-no homeopatic or any other flu shots for my family.
15 years ago I had a vaccine against diphtheria, because Russian president called everybody in Moscow to do so, because there were few cases of this disease in the city and I was scared that made me to go and get the shot. Right after taking that shot I got sick with this exactly illness, almost died, but God saved my life through Holy Communion at the church.I do not believe in any vaccines anymore.
If vaccines will be mandatory then USA is not a free country anymore.
12:44 am on October 16th, 2009
No shots for me! My husband got a flu shot a few years ago, and that was the only year he DID get sick (I didn’t get one, and didn’t get sick…and I normally get sick when he does). It’s criminal that people are being forced to get immunized…Mass, schools in NJ, and some hospitals in Chicago are already requiring it. People will lose their jobs if they don’t offer their arms. It is not the government’s place. I think we are entering scary times.
12:53 am on October 16th, 2009
I have chronic medical problems and addison’s disease, (no adrenal’s). I am not sure what to do.
1:09 am on October 16th, 2009
I think we all should bring many copies of Mike Adams articles about Flu Vaccines and Health, and maybe some of Kevins (Mike has given permission) and disseminate them to various key places – like, where they are giving flu shots!
Any ideas or strategies from anyone? Anyone willing?
1:20 am on October 16th, 2009
as discussed earlier, every study is biased, science is biased, thats why we have to continue to ask questions, especially when it comes to governments and medical issues since i feel that most of the time theyve got their capitalistic ‘thinking’ hat on..
no. vaccines no thank you.
great show kevin!
2:13 am on October 16th, 2009
Only the IGNORANT get vaccines! And the children who have no choice because parents make them. I used to be one of those sheeple until I started reading Natural News and Mercola’s newsletters and stopped getting shots.
Get Educated!
Thank you Kevin and Annmarie. Luv u 2 J-5!
2:26 am on October 16th, 2009
Never had one, never will! My Grandfather contracted Guillian Barre Syndrome after a flu shot, he never did recover from it ,and after that he slowly lost his mental faculties. I tell everyone I know to research seriously before considering a vaccination, I beleive vaccinations would be a good way for the forces that be to have control over the masses, keep them sick, keep giving them pharmaceutical drugs. When people are sick all the fight has gone out of them, easier to control, that’s my opinion any way. Here is my contribution to studies done on vaccinations:
http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/swine/swine-flu.php
http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/book12/sanctity-of-human-blood-vaccination-is-not-immunization.htm
http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/swine/swine-flu-vaccine.php
2:32 am on October 16th, 2009
Hi
You are epseaking to the converted here.
I am wondering what is going to happen in US now with these mandatory flu shots in certain states.
Never mind the flu shot- what about the RFID chip that is being put in the needle as a secret present!!!.
Everyone I speak to says they are not having the shots. The only palce I saw people in a trance saying they were going to have them was that famous Dr Oz show. That maust have done wonders for his credability.
3:11 am on October 16th, 2009
Absolutely NO WAY.
3:16 am on October 16th, 2009
No shots for me, thank you very much.
?
Only, what can we do when they make it obligatory to get a shot against the swine flu, like I heard they’re working on very haard
3:28 am on October 16th, 2009
Absolutely not-no flu vaccines in my house – they are poison, and it is possible that live virus that people get through vaccination will make the flu spread even faster, as many people who get the vaccine do come down with the flu as a result. For flu prevention one might want to look into homeopathic nosodes and anti-flu formulas, like this one:
http://www.celletech.com/
Have been taking it for years and the worst I got was a day of sniffles once in the last five years.
6:46 am on October 16th, 2009
The shot has been invented in China. When was the last time your purchased a high quality, trustworthy product from China? They just murdered 10’s of thousands of their own kids with bad batches of baby formula and poisoned endless children with lead paint in toys, just to name two recent occurances caused by China. The US has a HUGE debt with China. Let’s see-US creates tremendous fear in American (btw-the fear of this flu throughout the world is a fraction of what has been created by the US government and US media)-everyone runs out to get the shot pushed by the government, huge purchases are made in China-wow, huge decrease in US debt to China. Amazing. What really gets me is as soon as the shot starts being given out people start getting really sick and the word is out that “there has never been such a strong flu”. Makes you wonder. Also, the flu shot creates mutated illnesses which reap havoc on society. Big brother is watching…
7:54 am on October 16th, 2009
Wow great show! I’m a nurse (use to be before getting married and having babies LOL) But I do not get any shot for myself and my family because I really think that they do NOT work!!!!
All the shots that we are giving to babies are for disease that were on a decline (due to running water, better way to get rid of waste etc..) before the vaccine were even introduce to the population!!!!
I did link this post and your video on my blog and hope that is ok with you!!!!
8:41 am on October 16th, 2009
I would rather die than the get the flu vaccine. Wait… that would cause my death!
9:55 am on October 16th, 2009
I’ve never had a flu vaccine & never will. I’m pretty healthy & rarely get sick at 52 years of age. I don’t take any medications either. I’ve got to learn to calm down though because I get so crazy when I’m trying to convince my sister not to take the flu vaccine. She thinks they’re fine & gets one every year. She says they’ve never caused her any problems. But I beg to differ because she has all kinds of health problems, that may not be directly related to the vaccine, but I think the added burden of toxins has caused her body to break down. I could go on, but I’ll stop here before I get carried away.
10:09 am on October 16th, 2009
I am just Wow’d with all the response to the flu shot.
I see many are taking the time to research and this is a good thing.
I too will not have the flu shot. It’s also been linked to Alzheimer’s disease. Just think about it It’s all those children from back in the just after WWII and we have this huge amount of our grandparent or parents that now have Alzheimer’s disease.
Hello let’s wake up everyone.
Great info Kevin as always.
10:14 am on October 16th, 2009
Hi Kev & Annemarie;
Thank you for all your great info that you bring on all different topics very interesting.
I often hear you talking about training / running I’d like to know more about how you train.
Since I became raw foodie I have increased my performance and I feel much better, I don’t ache like I use to before I changed my diet.
I’m now trying to train for 1/2 marathon, I read in one of the books that Lcarnitine helps, so I purchased it and it is helping a lot to increase my speed and my energy overhaul. (I do hope that Carnitine have no Sid effect)
Also I drink a glass of coconut water before I go running, it gives me great energy and it doesn’t make me hungry in the middle of my run. The max I have done lately is 7 to 8 miles.
What are your thoughts on this? How do you prepare yourself for long runs? If you can give me some input on the diet you follow?
I Appreciate your response
Peace, Love
Freda
11:06 am on October 16th, 2009
Back in 1976, during that swine flu, I was in boot camp at the time. So, I had no choice and was given the vaccine. Everyone in my platoon got sick from this thing. They had to give us the day off. I got a splitting headache. About a week or so later, they officially pulled the vaccine. That was the swine flu where more people died or were negatively effected by the vaccine than from the flu.
I follow the protocals of the Perelandra Center for Nature Research along with my own knowledge of homeopathy, herbs, aromatherapy, etc.
11:06 am on October 16th, 2009
No flu vaccine for me either. Years ago and under doctor’s recomendation, I used to take it but got the flu anyway. So I decided not to take it anymore and after years of detox I’m fine now. I do not trust the pharmaceutical industry and the doctors who recommend the injection of all these chemicals. Take vitamines C and D, eat the right food and you will go through the flu season without any problem.
Thanks Kevin for the great show as always.
11:09 am on October 16th, 2009
Here is a great downloadable brochure from SafeMinds that you can hand out: http://www.safeminds.org/about/documents/SM%20Flu%20Brochure%202009-2010.pdf
11:23 am on October 16th, 2009
Hi, Kevin,
I haven’t had a flu shot in 10 years, and since I changed my diet 2 years ago, I haven’t been sick, not even with the seasonal allergies I used to get twice a year. My son had the flu last year, and had not had a flu shot, but his pediatrician told me at the time that the strain of flu he had (influenza A), was a strain that was infecting children that she knew had had a flu shot, as well.
I was of a mind to continue with the no-flu-shot policy this year.
However, a week ago, a young lady here in our town died of the flu. She was 12 years old. She was a basketball player at the private school she attended. She got sick on a Thursday, and was dead on Saturday.
I have a 12-year-old daughter. So you can see why I’m scared.
At the time of this young lady’s death, the H1N1 shot had not been released.
And, in looking at the information you presented — socioeconomic demographic, habit of exercise, etc. — this child shouldn’t have died from the flu.
So now, I’m torn. I don’t want to put toxins in my children’s bodies.
But I don’t want dead children, either.
As I’m 40, I’m not so much worried about my demographic; but it’s my kids that have me terrified. I don’t want to make a decision based on fear, but really, it comes down to this: Are you more afraid of the virus, or of the drug companies? And what do you stand to lose in either scenario?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
I’d appreciae
11:24 am on October 16th, 2009
OOooops … please ignore the sentence fragment at the end!
11:35 am on October 16th, 2009
Hey Kevin, Thanks for the show. Per your question … It would never occur to me to get a flu shot.
Just a comment … I’ve been reading the posted comments and get the sense that folks are responding to you about seasonal flu shots as well as H1N1 flu shots … makes it all jumbled to read. I presumed you were referring to seasonal flu in your video since you were referring to studies already conducted. Anyway no worries, but …
I noted that #29 Nancy Zare comments re Massachusetts the H1N1 flu shot mandatory … this is a false rumor. I also live in Mass. You can go to this website:
http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eohhs2terminal&L=6&L0=Home&L1=Provider&L2=Guidelines+and+Resources&L3=Guidelines+for+Services+%26+Planning&L4=Diseases+and+Conditions&L5=Influenza&sid=Eeohhs2&b=terminalcontent&f=dph_cdc_p_flu_about&csid=Eeohhs
(sorry it’s so long) and click on the right side under ‘News&Updates’ to read the memo from the Mass Dept of Public Health.
We need to keep ourselves educated and updated, and very careful about what information we disseminate to people.
Thanks again, Kevin! InJoy ~
11:39 am on October 16th, 2009
Hey Kevin … Unrelated question for you … Why doesn’t my facebook picture show up anymore when I comment via this method? Thanks!
12:10 pm on October 16th, 2009
I HAVE NEVER OR WILL NEVER GET A FLU SHOT! YOU DO NOT GET THE FLU FROM GERMS, YOU GET SICK BECAUSE YOUR BODY IS ACIDIC AND NO OTHER REASON. Make your body alkaline and you will never get sick. The people that die from the flu are already sick from an acidic body, bottom line , end of story
12:20 pm on October 16th, 2009
I have never gotten the flu shot and neither has any member of my family…Last night I happened to watch a television program that made me extremely happy I have never gotten any sort of flue shot. The video of the reaction the woman got to the flu shot was very sad to watch. However, this website does not have the video I watched on television, it is only a brief summary of what was on television. If you’d like, you could read the short article on the “Inside Edition” website. Just copy and paste the link.
http://www.insideedition.com/news.aspx?storyId=3514
1:17 pm on October 16th, 2009
hi Kevin, and anyone else who is interested in this conversation,
please read http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?cat=36
which contains well-cited information regarding vaccines. The whole blog is quite fascinating actually. I highly recommend it, although I’ve only pointed the link above to the “Vaccines” section.
For the sake of disclosure, I am *not* a scientist or affiliated with any pharma companies. I am just a person who is interested in optimum health like everyone else here. I happen to take a very different stance regarding vaccines, though, and science-based medicine in general, than most people who are into raw foods . Call me the oddball, but the natural health movement contains a lot of misinformation regarding this issue, in my opinion, and it concerns me greatly.
My hope is that people can use alternative medicines when and where they are useful, but will grant science-based medicine at least the same respect for the work it does to heal and cure.
We will really alienate most of the general public from the idea of healthy eating if the movement is constantly attached to not-scientifically-provable claims about other areas of human health (such as vaccination or treatment for certain types of cancer).
I’ve read everything that gary null, dr. mercola , naturalnews and similar folks have had to say. I promise. I just disagree with them. I believe they are more likely to be guilty of the things the natural food movement accuses science based medicine of, than science based medicine!
As far as GSK’s profits go, I don’t really see 8% increase for swine flu orders really saying/ meaning much, First of all, the orders haven’t been fulfilled. In the past there have often been more orders than can be filled, that’s when shortages occur.
Further, this number doesn’t really speak to the claim that all vaccines are simply made for profit, without concern for their efficacy.
I’m not saying there isn’t profit to be made in big pharma or just as bad, in health insurance, there is…and that concerns me too — that’s why I’m supporting the public option – I don’t think high profit margins have a place in medicine or any health-based system of care, and that’s how I’m combatting that particular issue.
However, my point is that compared to curative medicines, vaccine has minimal profit value for these industries.
I believe that the science based medicine blog answers everything else that has arisen in these types of discussions, in entirety.
Cheers, and happy reading. thanks for being willing to converse on this issue!
1:39 pm on October 16th, 2009
My friend almost died (twice) from getting meningitis five or six years ago and she is still suffering the effects of it. Had to quit her job, has a continual headache, is always foggy, etc. Has been to see several doctors (some out of town) and tried several different therapies to clear up her health. Nada. Thinking about the whole flu shot thing, she came to the realization that just before she got the meningitis she had had a flu shot and that for each of the preceding several years she had gotten sick from something shortly after getting the flu shot. So she’s not taking them anymore, and I don’t think she’s continuing allergy shots either. Of course, now that she cannot work she is not required to take flu shots anymore (worked at a hospital). How convenient…
As for me and my house…no flu shots here as far as I am concerned. I am due for a tetanus shot; hubby keeps bringing it up but I am as always ignoring that. Daughter had to have the regimen of shots in order to stay in school so I reluctantly made an appointment for her but I told the lady on the phone that I DID NOT want her to have the Hepatitis B shot because it was dangerous, and she rebuked me. Hmmm. Of course she believes it’s safe. The things people do to keep their jobs…
We just purchased two bottles of Vitamin D, some top grade coconut oil, and some goji berries. My daughter is the one who gets sick most so these are mostly for her, but I will take them too–along with my Juice Plus, which has kept me well for the past six years. If you want to find out more about Juice Plus, please visit my Juice Plus website:
https://canada.juiceplus.com/nsa/content/Home.soa?site=cl04718
Other than that eat right, gets lots of rest, exercise and take in the sunshine. Life was meant to be simple!
Connie
Home and School Solutions
(http://www.home-and-school-solutions.com)
1:40 pm on October 16th, 2009
Never had a flu shot. When I have the flu, it never killed me. It defintely made me appreciate my health!!
We have not been sick in so many years I can barely remember.
We all need to take control of our own health instead of listening to others. If you are going to take a shot, you should know exactly what is in it and make an informed decision from that.
However, I see our bodies are amazing and magical. If we can come to realize this, anything is possible.
Think about when you cut yourself…
How is it that within days or weeks, it is healed, and you can not even see where the cut is. That to me is magic.
We harness a lot of power that most of us do not even realize….
Love and ALoha
C&S
3:29 pm on October 16th, 2009
No vaccine for my family! It is poison and toxins…
4:54 pm on October 16th, 2009
I’m a bit surprised by the fact that the polio vaccine is only mentioned twice in the above comments – and generally in the negative vein. I’m not suggesting that the flu vaccine is a good thing, but I think to broad brush vaccines is a bit misguided. Clearly although there were issues (horrible for some for certain) bringing the polio vaccine to market, I think it would be hard now to disagree with its benefits.
5:36 pm on October 16th, 2009
I have to say I heard on one of the morning shows on the Christian radio station a discussion about followers.
Basically, without preaching, it was saying that those that are of Jesus, listen to the word of God, those that are not, don’t.
I believe that applies here as well. If you are into the health movement and want to take control of your own health, then you do the research and apply your knowledge to yourself and do what is best for you. If you are not, and a follower of modern medicine, you will believe whatever you are told to believe and do what you are told to do and not think for yourself and believe that someone else knows what is better for you, even if its toxic, for profit whatever, and defend it to the death. Literally.
5:57 pm on October 16th, 2009
I work at a hospital and they mandated the seasonal flu shot for the first time ever, and novel H1N1 also. They also did not allow for personal/philosophical exemptions, only religious or medical – and how a religious exemption is not the same as a philosophical exemption I’ll never know. I submitted for a religious exemption and will join the Jehovah’s Witnesses or Scientologist’s if that’s what it takes I guess.
6:26 pm on October 16th, 2009
HELL NO!!!
8:06 pm on October 16th, 2009
I took the flu shot for 10 years in a row on the advice of my doctor because of having a bicuspid rather than a tricuspid heart valve. Never felt good about it. Last year I began learning about acid vs alkaline and I worked hard at making myself alkaline. Also did not get the flu shot nor the flu and have no intention of getting it ever again.
I feel awful that I let my daughter receive all the recommended vaccinations over the years.
Does anyone know how to reverse the effects of vaccines? I guess strengthening the immune system and eating healthy, which I’m doing, is the best place to start. But more than that?????
Thanks.
8:48 pm on October 16th, 2009
Heck no! Great information posted by people. Do your [nonmainstream] research and I think you will come to the same conclusion.
8:57 am on October 17th, 2009
Firstly THANKYOU for trusting the space we share. Most raw foodists have avoided talking about this. SO thankyou I would not take the flu shot. Fortunately its not going to be mandatory (now) in uk. We have been networking lots of info, been in touch with the local MP etc. and it seems that despite what is known – the docs are still endeavouring to convince people to take this jab. My mum took a regular flue shot and died days after with a ’so called’ heart attack, My gut feel is that the flu shot reacted with her body and with the pharmaceuticals she was already taking! I feel this flu shot is legalised criminality. No matter how much research and information we secure. My gut feel is that its nothing to do with investing in peoples wellness. More to do with a civilised genocide. Thanks for talking about it. We need to talk more, purely to network and inform. At first I felt I was being called forth, purely cause of my own concern of it being mandatory, but now I am still feeling called forth to network and inform, cause many people DONT know the full info.
EXCELLENT work thankyou
11:50 am on October 17th, 2009
Five years ago, I took the Flu Nasal Mist.
Almost immediately, I had the most intense, painful, headache I’ve ever had.
As soon as I did get home, I had to take two Tylenol and get into bed. The headache lasted for a few hours.
I’ve never taken a Flu Shot or Mist before or since.
Since then I’ve been enlightened by many pro-health websites and people.
I don’t intend to get the Flu vaccine now.
But…. I do a ton of other pro-active measures.. nutrition, exercise, supplements, etc, as the preventive measure.
While I’m against the vaccines here, the danger is people who do absolutely nothing pro-active in it’s place.
What do they do ?
If one is the Mickey Dees, Dunkin Donuts, Budweiser type — besides telling them to try a somewhat healthier lifestyle that is — I don’t have the answer for that segment of the population.
A very large segment at that.
3:52 pm on October 17th, 2009
I’m against this vaccine as I am against all of them. Of course I get the guilt trip from my family doc each time he looks at my children’s charts.
6:07 pm on October 17th, 2009
I was told about 35 years ago to get the flu shot by my doctor who I trusted, I did and almost died!
I have never had the flu since then and I never had a flu shot.
I have been making a pest of myself telling all my friends or anyone that will half listen to me not to take it and the dangers.
Here in the east nurses from some hospitals are being forced to take the shot against their will. The court has issued and injunction against their being forced. I hope they win.
Now that is scary I would go to jail before I would allow them to stick me again.
11:14 pm on October 17th, 2009
The point to the vaccine is to prevent the flu, not really prevent death. Why did you focus on death and not prevention of flu?
1:16 pm on October 18th, 2009
No flu shot for me! My company is sending a nurse to our location to give free flu shots – I have to support it as the manager, but I also let people know that I won’t be getting one. I recently had a cold that went around my building. Although it lasted the typical cold length – it didn’t escalate to anything else as I used herbs, grapefruit seed extract, and healthy high raw food to nurture myself. Others were at the doctor and on antibiotics right away. Sometimes, it’s extremely hard to be the only “naturally” orientated person at my company – but I refuse to compromise my health or my ideals.
9:25 pm on October 18th, 2009
NO
5:45 pm on October 19th, 2009
BRAVO Kevin!!! I have a background in healthcare — nursing, naturopathic medicine, and traditional chinese medicine (TCM). Even in my years studying allopathic medicine (nursing), my “mainstream” microbiology professor lectured on how absolutely worthless getting the flu vaccine actually is from just a basic scientific understanding. And, from my years working with patients and in the naturopathic and TCM fields, it is well known that these vaccines (as well as others) are not only generally useless, but can be a very very serious toxic health hazard! THANK YOU for putting this info out there Kevin!!! BlisSings to you and Annemarie (& J5, too) for all you do!!!
9:15 pm on October 19th, 2009
SO many responses! This is a complex issue, and it seems a grave disservice to public safety when people take sides as if it was black-or-white.
I watched “Vaccine Nation”. I agree that kids get way too many vaccinations, too close together, at too young of an age. Thimerosol should be eliminated completely. Sick kids should not get a vaccine. Parents should have a choice.
But some of the film’s generalizations are way off target. Jonas Salk refused to patent his polio vaccine because he thought it wrong to do anything that would restrict its benefits. To characterize the history of vaccination as something sinister and always profit-driven is a lie.
Jenner’s son and the kid who he first tried the smallpox vaccine on may have both died from Tuberculosis at ages 20 and 21, but that doesn’t in any way mean the smallpox (viral) vaccine causes tuberculosis (bacterial). If you look at the historic record for that place and time, you’ll find a lot of other 20 and 21 year olds who did NOT get the vaccine but died of tuberculosis anyway – it was a big problem then! The documentary says “there is a known association” – but the only known association is that the discovery of the smallpox vaccine from cowpox led to the discovery of the tuberculosis vaccine from bovine tuberculosis.
If you’re right about something, why lie to make it look “more right”? It just makes that cause look naive or reactionary.
The anti-vaccine lobby loses credibility when people make unsubstantiated statements as if they were true, and then demand “proof” from the pro-vaccine people.
YES, we need to keep our immune systems strong thru proper nutrition, etc.
But isn’t it just possible that some vaccines are a good thing at certain times? If you were working around animals with rabies, would you really decline a rabies vaccination?
I also think we need aggressive research that identifies genetic and other markers to determine which kids have autoimmune disease predisposition, so they can be spared vaccines that might trigger it.
We need to raise health awareness in this country, CLEARLY. We need to get the true facts about vaccines, and mandate that parents-to-be read up on it so they CAN make truly informed decisions, rather than bowing to pressure from either side.
But we can’t demand good double-blind research on vaccines on the one hand, while disregarding the fact that double-blind research with homeopathics so far find it no better than a placebo. (Sorry, kids, I was hoping those NIH-funded studies would come out on the side of homeopathics, too, but they simply don’t, and no, it wasn’t “fixed” by the drug companies!)
That said, I’m a healthcare worker who had a flu shot this year and last, but I’m still on the fence about H1N1. Definitely will continue my green smoothie breakfasts, though!
Keep it real…
12:44 pm on October 21st, 2009
Ive never been vaccinated, and Ive never had the flu.
3:45 pm on October 21st, 2009
Every year I’ve gotten the flu shot, I have NOT gotten the flu, When I have not had the flu shot, I’ve been sick 1 out of 7 times.
A healthy immune system is a great thing, but disease is a terrible thing to dismiss because of the healing powers of carrots and sunshine.
How very American of us to assume that those who do get sick just weren’t healthy enough and it’s their own fault. It’s fine to question the effectiveness of vaccines… but please, don’t try to spread the idea that if you are “healthy” enough you can become impervious to disease. That is a very very dangerous thing.
12:39 pm on October 22nd, 2009
No way Jose!! Why toxify a perfectly good vehicle?? Our preventative choice is the wholesome goodness of the pure balanced gifts of mother earth and our attunement with our cosmic family.
1:48 pm on October 22nd, 2009
I’m a bit late on this.
Glad you see you address this.
I’m against vaccines period.
When I read the article on Natural News, this is what went through my mind:
I’d love to see a ’study’ done with people eating HIGH RAW, no refined sugar and taking care of themselves in all the other great ways like fitness, meditation, etc.
How many people would ‘be saved’ in that one?
Good show Kev.
Thanks.
8:13 pm on November 8th, 2009
got my flu shot today for me and the kids.
thanks for the info