Comments on: Is the Medical Model of Healing Ever Helpful – The Renegade Health Show Episode #365 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful Thu, 24 May 2012 22:57:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Christine http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-43096 Christine Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:33:05 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-43096 The Medical Model has worked for me when I needed to know the results of lab work and in getting a diagnosis...that's it...I remember one time I was in so much pain in my chest/rib area, and I wanted to make sure I didn't fracture a rib...They said it was just bruised..that is all I needed to know..they then tried to make me feel guilty for refusing pain meds and I told them no thanks, I would go home and take some cayenne pepper...told the doc that it works like Morphine and he said I was ridiculous/silly/wacky, etc for not taking the meds...I then informed him that I was a nurse and as a patient, I had rights to refuse meds without being criticized and belittled for my decision and that he had no right to call me names..He was so shocked when I told him I was a nurse and from then on he didn't try to talk me into taking the meds The Medical Model has worked for me when I needed to know the results of lab work and in getting a diagnosis…that’s it…I remember one time I was in so much pain in my chest/rib area, and I wanted to make sure I didn’t fracture a rib…They said it was just bruised..that is all I needed to know..they then tried to make me feel guilty for refusing pain meds and I told them no thanks, I would go home and take some cayenne pepper…told the doc that it works like Morphine and he said I was ridiculous/silly/wacky, etc for not taking the meds…I then informed him that I was a nurse and as a patient, I had rights to refuse meds without being criticized and belittled for my decision and that he had no right to call me names..He was so shocked when I told him I was a nurse and from then on he didn’t try to talk me into taking the meds

]]> By: Christine http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-43094 Christine Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:26:54 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-43094 I am a nurse, and I can personally tell you that the Medical Model is not the answer...The answer is in eating the natural food that God has given us as well as Exercise, Water, Proper Rest, Trust in God, Abstinence, Sunshine, Natural Remedies and Fresh Air everyday...I have seen meds kill people...They say that Medical Errors/Drug Medication is the 3rd leading cause of death..I tend to disagree...I believe it is the #1 as do other health professionals...Many have died from heart attacks as a side effect from the meds...I could go on and on... I am a nurse, and I can personally tell you that the Medical Model is not the answer…The answer is in eating the natural food that God has given us as well as Exercise, Water, Proper Rest, Trust in God, Abstinence, Sunshine, Natural Remedies and Fresh Air everyday…I have seen meds kill people…They say that Medical Errors/Drug Medication is the 3rd leading cause of death..I tend to disagree…I believe it is the #1 as do other health professionals…Many have died from heart attacks as a side effect from the meds…I could go on and on…

]]> By: Judy http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-42402 Judy Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:33:00 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-42402 I believe all forms have their place in our society. The most important thing is for each person to be informed about thier own body. I have a serious autoimmune disease for which I am taking a drug called Low Dose Naltrexone. By it's action it causes the body to produce more endorphins, which in turn boost the immune system. However, many of the doctors that are now recommending this drug are also advising people that they need to change their diet also to get maximum effects. Plus there are also many natural herbs and vitamins that can help also. I do believe my problem was started by a virus that my immune system wasn't able to fight off. By taking a multiple approach to my illness, including a mostly raw diet, I've been able to see a 90% reduction in symptoms. I believe all forms have their place in our society. The most important thing is for each person to be informed about thier own body. I have a serious autoimmune disease for which I am taking a drug called Low Dose Naltrexone. By it’s action it causes the body to produce more endorphins, which in turn boost the immune system. However, many of the doctors that are now recommending this drug are also advising people that they need to change their diet also to get maximum effects. Plus there are also many natural herbs and vitamins that can help also. I do believe my problem was started by a virus that my immune system wasn’t able to fight off. By taking a multiple approach to my illness, including a mostly raw diet, I’ve been able to see a 90% reduction in symptoms.

]]> By: Jeni S http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-40949 Jeni S Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:29:09 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-40949 Hi Guys The medical model is best for blood testing and for broken bones/ligaments etc,.. The rest of the time I have been over medicated and under doagnosed and still trying to beat the problems. Hi Guys

The medical model is best for blood testing and for broken bones/ligaments etc,.. The rest of the time I have been over medicated and under doagnosed and still trying to beat the problems.

]]> By: Mary http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-39752 Mary Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:45:56 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-39752 I couldn't have healed my own ruptured appendix or my dislocated hip without the "medical model." For other needs, I integrate both medical and self-healing, although I've never done it alone. I believe in and require divine intervention. I couldn’t have healed my own ruptured appendix or my dislocated hip without the “medical model.” For other needs, I integrate both medical and self-healing, although I’ve never done it alone. I believe in and require divine intervention.

]]> By: Anabel http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-39608 Anabel Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:06:22 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-39608 Oops, I meant the treatment of broken bones. :) Oops, I meant the treatment of broken bones. :)

]]> By: Anabel http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-39607 Anabel Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:04:33 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-39607 Broken bones and some appropriate surgery as well as emergency care by the established medical system are much appreciated. However I am very skeptical of many drug (medications) and have refused conventional treatment on occasion. On one occasion a doctor admitted he did not know what was causing my symptoms. I respect the fact that he did not put me on any unecessary drugs or treatments. The symptoms cleared on their own after I moved away from the area. Be well, anabel Broken bones and some appropriate surgery as well as emergency care by the established medical system are much appreciated.

However I am very skeptical of many drug (medications) and have refused conventional treatment on occasion.

On one occasion a doctor admitted he did not know what was causing my symptoms. I respect the fact that he did not put me on any unecessary drugs or treatments. The symptoms cleared on their own after I moved away from the area.

Be well,
anabel

]]> By: Eric J Shadd http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-39597 Eric J Shadd Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:39:29 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-39597 this is a great vid Kevin! Fantastic. I would say the medical model is necessary but not sufficient. There are certainly aspects we need, especially the testing. For me personally, I have not had very good experiences with the medical establishment. As a matter of fact, they caused many of my past problems. That said, we still need them. In the end, I support options, education, freedom of choice, and freedom of speech. Eric this is a great vid Kevin! Fantastic. I would say the medical model is necessary but not sufficient. There are certainly aspects we need, especially the testing. For me personally, I have not had very good experiences with the medical establishment. As a matter of fact, they caused many of my past problems. That said, we still need them. In the end, I support options, education, freedom of choice, and freedom of speech.

Eric

]]> By: DIdi http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-39567 DIdi Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:25:18 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-39567 I am thankful for all models of health creation, optimisation and restoration. Be them orthodox medical, acupuncture, chinese medicine, naturopathic, nutritional, homeapathic, shamanistic, mystical, social models, intuitive and anything else that exists that l haven`t included. The onus is on each and every one of us to take responsibility for own health and well-being. Enquiry through information gathering from many sources is the way l go. Then looking at the benefits versus the risks. The medical model assisted my sister when aged 18 months when she developed Status Epilectus to later limit its effect to the level of brain injury that she remains with. My parents are Catholics and would much preferred her to be alive than otherwise. So for families that support members with disablity the medical model can can be a Godsent.l suppose it all depends what level of health and well being you start of with in this world. For myself when my sutured wound on my hand refused to heal, the addition of anti-biotics was the difference to hastening healing. A couple of years ago l was experiencing fatigue that persisted for about 6 months because l was going to push through what l believed to be mild depression by adjusting my mindset and using St Johns Wort because l am a great believer in self-healing.LOL. It wasn`t until l went to the Doctor & requested the tests that l discovered that l had a disease called Barmah Forest Virus, a mosquito-bourne disease that results in fatigue & some other symptoms which didn`t appear in me. Finally with an accurate diagnosis l was able to adjust my self care with supplements,acupuncture and most importantly self sanctioned rest so that now am in excellent health. I VALUE THE CHOICES I HAVE HERE AND NOW, I KNOW OTHERS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD ARE NOT SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE THESE CHOICES.let alone adequate food not to feel hunger. I am thankful for all models of health creation, optimisation and restoration. Be them orthodox medical, acupuncture, chinese medicine, naturopathic, nutritional, homeapathic, shamanistic, mystical, social models, intuitive and anything else that exists that l haven`t included.

The onus is on each and every one of us to take responsibility for own health and well-being. Enquiry through information gathering from many sources is the way l go. Then looking at the benefits versus the risks.

The medical model assisted my sister when aged 18 months when she developed Status Epilectus to later limit its effect to the level of brain injury that she remains with.
My parents are Catholics and would much preferred her to be alive than otherwise.
So for families that support members with disablity the medical model can can be a Godsent.l suppose it all depends what level of health and well being you start of with in this world.

For myself when my sutured wound on my hand refused to heal, the addition of anti-biotics
was the difference to hastening healing.

A couple of years ago l was experiencing fatigue that persisted for about 6 months because l was going to push through what l believed to be mild depression by adjusting my mindset and using St Johns Wort because l am a great believer in self-healing.LOL.
It wasn`t until l went to the Doctor & requested the tests that l discovered that l had a disease called Barmah Forest Virus, a mosquito-bourne disease that results in fatigue & some other symptoms which didn`t appear in me. Finally with an accurate diagnosis l was able to adjust my self care with supplements,acupuncture and most importantly self sanctioned rest so that now am in excellent health.

I VALUE THE CHOICES I HAVE HERE AND NOW, I KNOW OTHERS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD ARE NOT SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE THESE CHOICES.let alone adequate food not to feel hunger.

]]> By: Pat http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2009/08/03/is-the-medical-model-of-healing-ever-helpful#comment-39444 Pat Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:44:16 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=1213#comment-39444 CHEMOTHERAPY saved my life:=) . .Id be dead already at 3o years old, of testicular cancer, was coughing up blood dying quick..can spread to the brain basically overnight ...similiar to lance armstrong...(HE WAS EVEN LATER STAGE THAN ME) Im very grateful that chemo worked for me as from what I know it only works miracles FAST for about 8-10% of all cancers TYPES... I'm still a dedicated Live raw foodist cause I'm taking no chances and it helps qaulity of Life in so many Ways. Keep all your options open!!! no matter what ...It;s not worth dying over a certain belief system..SEE a Doctor get 2-3 opionions or more, and do ur reserach!! CHEMOTHERAPY saved my life:=)
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.Id be dead already at 3o years old, of testicular cancer, was coughing up blood dying quick..can spread to the brain basically overnight …similiar to lance armstrong…(HE WAS EVEN LATER STAGE THAN ME)
Im very grateful that chemo worked for me as from what I know it only works miracles FAST for about 8-10% of all cancers TYPES…
I’m still a dedicated Live raw foodist cause I’m taking no chances and it helps qaulity of Life in so many Ways.
Keep all your options open!!! no matter what …It;s not worth dying over a certain belief system..SEE a Doctor get 2-3 opionions or more, and do ur reserach!!

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