Comments on: Does Muscle Fatigue Mean I Need More Protein – The Renegade Health Show Episode #158 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein Thu, 24 May 2012 14:15:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: VICKY http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-12120 VICKY Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:52:42 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-12120 A great recommendation is from Harvard researcher, Dr David Sinclair, who came to the #1 Natural Nutrition Co, 52 yr Shaklee with his revolutionary Anti-Aging VIVIX: Dr. David Sinclair, Harvard Researcher http://content.shaklee.com/shaklee/flash/sinclair/sinclair-science.html http://www.shaklee.net/rizzi/product/21000 Vivix is unequalled in the marketplace and who wouldn't want to feel 25 yrs younger and protect their DNA? A great recommendation is from Harvard researcher, Dr David Sinclair, who came to the #1 Natural Nutrition Co, 52 yr Shaklee with his revolutionary Anti-Aging VIVIX:

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]]> By: RICK http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-11199 RICK Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:22:20 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-11199 Hi gang.. Kevin I enjoy most of your good efforts, but am having trouble to some extent with your associations.. Watching Rawkathon last nite it was interesting having David Wolfe first and Doug Graham next. To me David is way too much hype re the superfood thing, and now his Ormus stuff.. Doug Graham was wonderful, a mellow spirit interested in HEALTH and how to achieve it.. Grahams 811 works, has a scientific basis, and doesn't entail buying and consuming a bunch of manufactured products that MAYBE do some good, but in truth its very questionable re how much 'belief that it will do good' has to do with it. Dougs quiet way of stating his case is a whole lot more convincing to many people -myself included- than Davids hyped up presentation re alchemy & questionable in some cases 'superfoods'.. In truth he looks like he has been getting down on too much cacao.. It was also interesting what Doug said about many people getting on the raw food thing- but not sticking with it. (Have read this elsewhere ) Think that is worth a thought.. To many of us Tolles New Earth & 811 go together nicely. Do we really need ego-tripping super-heros & super-foods in our world today? ( I also objected to Davids put-down & dismissal of all the hard working organic farmers producing good food for us to enjoy -that seemed to be an ego trip that wouldn't quit..) As always 'Time will tell the tale'...and my bet would be on Doug & lots of F&Vs - and will not be at all surprised to see David & his hype go the way of other 'promoters'.. Tis just a bit sad that so many seeking health are being side-tracked with possible super-hero status while they could be doing themselves a big favor by pursuing plain & simple 811. Your rawkathon is a wonderful effort..much appreciated. Would suggest that a forum where folks could dialog and learn from others would be a good edition if possible. No one is saying that you should not sell whatever you can..you of course need to make a living..no problem there. But you need to be upfront about what you 'push'- and not afraid to take -and be open to - input from others.. We have been hyped too much over the last eight years.. and just like the politicians the Raw Food thing will not succeed if its just going to be another money making thing..Doug is right on - this needs to be about Health -holistic health..not hyped up super anything.. Would love to see everyone on this planet living the good life..with holistic HEALTH of body, mind & spirit.. isn't that the bottom line? Suppose it's getting near time to choose.. just plain HEALTH - or lots of SUPER-HYPE..with a dose of MLM thrown in.. Hi gang.. Kevin I enjoy most of your good efforts, but am having trouble to some extent with your associations..

Watching Rawkathon last nite it was interesting having David Wolfe first and Doug Graham next. To me David is way too much hype re the superfood thing, and now his Ormus stuff..

Doug Graham was wonderful, a mellow spirit interested in HEALTH and how to achieve it.. Grahams 811 works, has a scientific basis, and doesn’t entail buying and consuming a bunch of manufactured products that MAYBE do some good, but in truth its very questionable re how much ‘belief that it will do good’ has to do with it.

Dougs quiet way of stating his case is a whole lot more convincing to many people -myself included- than Davids hyped up presentation re alchemy & questionable in some cases ‘superfoods’..
In truth he looks like he has been getting down on too much cacao..

It was also interesting what Doug said about many people getting on the raw food thing- but not sticking with it. (Have read this elsewhere ) Think that is worth a thought..

To many of us Tolles New Earth & 811 go together nicely. Do we really need ego-tripping super-heros & super-foods in our world today? ( I also objected to Davids put-down & dismissal of all the hard working organic farmers producing good food for us to enjoy -that seemed to be an ego trip that wouldn’t quit..)

As always ‘Time will tell the tale’…and my bet would be on Doug & lots of F&Vs – and will not be at all surprised to see David & his hype go the way of other ‘promoters’.. Tis just a bit sad that so many seeking health are being side-tracked with possible super-hero status while they could be doing themselves a big favor by pursuing
plain & simple 811.

Your rawkathon is a wonderful effort..much appreciated. Would suggest that a forum where folks could dialog and learn from others would be a good edition if possible.

No one is saying that you should not sell whatever you can..you of course need to make a living..no problem there. But you need to be upfront about what you ‘push’- and not afraid to take -and be open to – input from others..

We have been hyped too much over the last eight years.. and just like the politicians the Raw Food thing will not succeed if its just going to be another money making thing..Doug is right on – this needs to be about Health -holistic health..not hyped up super anything..

Would love to see everyone on this planet living the good life..with holistic HEALTH of body, mind & spirit.. isn’t that the bottom line?

Suppose it’s getting near time to choose.. just plain HEALTH – or lots of SUPER-HYPE..with a dose of MLM thrown in..

]]> By: RICK http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-11197 RICK Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:13:54 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-11197 Hi gang.. Kevin I enjoy most of your good efforts, but am having trouble to some extent with your associations.. Watching Rawkathon last nite it was interesting having David Wolfe first and Doug Graham next. To me David is way too much hype re the superfood thing, and now his Ormus stuff.. Davids book Sunfood Diet Success System promotes a diet that just doesn't work for most people and has no backing from those that know about getting healthy from what you eat. Doug Graham was wonderful, a mellow spirit interested in HEALTH and how to achieve it.. Grahams 811 works, has a scientific basis, and doesn't entail buying and consuming a bunch of manufactured products that MAYBE do some good, but in truth its very questionable re how much 'belief that it will do good' has to do with it. Dougs quiet way of stating his case is a whole lot more convincing to many people -myself included- than Davids hyped up presentation re alchemy & questionable in some cases 'superfoods'.. In truth he looks like he has been getting down on too much cacao.. It was also interesting what Doug said about many people getting on the raw food thing- but not sticking with it. (Have read this elsewhere ) Think that is worth a thought.. I know many folks that find that green smoothies really work -F&V (fruits & vegies) and many of us are finding that 811 & green drinks are a good way to go. To many of us Tolles New Earth & 811 go together nicely. Do we really need ego-tripping super-heros & super-foods in our world today? ( I also objected to Davids put-down & dismissal of all the hard working organic farmers producing good food for us to enjoy -that seemed to be an ego trip that wouldn't quit..) As always 'Time will tell the tale'...and my bet would be on Doug & lots of F&Vs - and will not be at all surprised to see David & his hype go the way of other 'promoters'.. Tis just a bit sad that so many seeking health are being side-tracked with possible super-hero status while they could be doing themselves a big favor by pursuing plain & simple 811. Have been following Mike Adams for some time also and have heard from others much the same as the above comment.. Mike is doing a great job in many areas but in truth he needs to clean up his act a bit also.. Your rawkathon is a wonderful effort..much appreciated. Would suggest that a forum where folks could dialog and learn from others would be a good edition if possible. No one is saying that you should not sell whatever you can..you of course need to make a living..no problem there. But you -and Mike- need to be upfront about what you 'push'- and not afraid to take -and be open to - input from others.. We have been hyped too much over the last eight years.. and just like the Republicans the Raw Food thing will not succeed if its just going to be another money making thing..Doug is right on - this needs to be about Health -holistic health..not hyped up super anything.. When you asked AnnMarie about her favorite 'superfood' she said greenpowder I think..She is both lovely and pragmatic..but can anyone tell me what any green powder has in it that cannot be obtained from Nature in a Raw state? Cron-0-Meter tells me I am getting in most cases more than twice what I need on a daily basis in all the vits/minerals etc on a 811 menu, so why do I need green powder? (and their levels are not based on organic- sometimes 4Xs more powerful that non-organic..) Would love to see everyone on this planet living the good life..with holistic HEALTH of body, mind & spirit.. isn't that the bottom line? Suppose it's getting near time to choose.. just plain HEALTH - or lots of SUPER-HYPE..with a dose of MLM thrown in.. Hi gang.. Kevin I enjoy most of your good efforts, but am having trouble to some extent with your associations..

Watching Rawkathon last nite it was interesting having David Wolfe first and Doug Graham next. To me David is way too much hype re the superfood thing, and now his Ormus stuff..

Davids book Sunfood Diet Success System promotes a diet that just doesn’t work for most people and has no backing from those that know about getting healthy from what you eat.

Doug Graham was wonderful, a mellow spirit interested in HEALTH and how to achieve it.. Grahams 811 works, has a scientific basis, and doesn’t entail buying and consuming a bunch of manufactured products that MAYBE do some good, but in truth its very questionable re how much ‘belief that it will do good’ has to do with it.

Dougs quiet way of stating his case is a whole lot more convincing to many people -myself included- than Davids hyped up presentation re alchemy & questionable in some cases ‘superfoods’..
In truth he looks like he has been getting down on too much cacao..

It was also interesting what Doug said about many people getting on the raw food thing- but not sticking with it. (Have read this elsewhere ) Think that is worth a thought.. I know many folks that find that green smoothies really work -F&V (fruits & vegies) and many of us are finding that 811 & green drinks are a good way to go.

To many of us Tolles New Earth & 811 go together nicely. Do we really need ego-tripping super-heros & super-foods in our world today? ( I also objected to Davids put-down & dismissal of all the hard working organic farmers producing good food for us to enjoy -that seemed to be an ego trip that wouldn’t quit..)

As always ‘Time will tell the tale’…and my bet would be on Doug & lots of F&Vs – and will not be at all surprised to see David & his hype go the way of other ‘promoters’.. Tis just a bit sad that so many seeking health are being side-tracked with possible super-hero status while they could be doing themselves a big favor by pursuing
plain & simple 811.

Have been following Mike Adams for some time also and have heard from others much the same as the above comment.. Mike is doing a great job in many areas but in truth he needs to clean up his act a bit also..

Your rawkathon is a wonderful effort..much appreciated. Would suggest that a forum where folks could dialog and learn from others would be a good edition if possible.

No one is saying that you should not sell whatever you can..you of course need to make a living..no problem there. But you -and Mike-
need to be upfront about what you ‘push’- and not afraid to take -and be open to – input from others..

We have been hyped too much over the last eight years.. and just like the Republicans the Raw Food thing will not succeed if its just going to be another money making thing..Doug is right on – this needs to be about Health -holistic health..not hyped up super anything..

When you asked AnnMarie about her favorite ‘superfood’ she said greenpowder I think..She is both lovely and pragmatic..but can anyone tell me what any green powder has in it that cannot be obtained from Nature in a Raw state? Cron-0-Meter tells me I am getting in most cases more than twice what I need on a daily basis in all the vits/minerals etc on a 811 menu, so why do I need green powder? (and their levels are not based on organic- sometimes 4Xs
more powerful that non-organic..)

Would love to see everyone on this planet living the good life..with holistic HEALTH of body, mind & spirit.. isn’t that the bottom line?

Suppose it’s getting near time to choose.. just plain HEALTH – or lots of SUPER-HYPE..with a dose of MLM thrown in..

]]> By: del http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-10896 del Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:56:26 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-10896 I like how Google does promotions. It's subtle. Off to the side. I can click on it and find out more if I want. Whenever a product is put in my face I find it annoying. Even if it's a great product. It's one of the reason turn to the Internet and DVD's and turned off the TV. It gives me more control over what I want to put into my brain. Still I get spam and ads on the internet that I'd rather not have sift through. It's great to know what's out there but I like to have control ofover the noise, visually as well as auditory. Keeping it subtle is what I'd prefer. We are always suspicious of anyone whose income and livelihood is depended on what they are saying or promoting, even if the intention is good. It's a hard to walk the line and it's up to each one of us to figure out, "Would this guy or gale be doing this or saying this if they weren't being paid for it?" If the answer is yes, I figure I'm pretty close to being on the right track. But keep you eye on the track. Sometimes the track shifts further down. Circumstances change. If my gut is clear and has a good amount of healthy probiotics it'll guide me along the right path. Keep up the great work you doing. I like how Google does promotions. It’s subtle. Off to the side. I can click on it and find out more if I want. Whenever a product is put in my face I find it annoying. Even if it’s a great product. It’s one of the reason turn to the Internet and DVD’s and turned off the TV. It gives me more control over what I want to put into my brain. Still I get spam and ads on the internet that I’d rather not have sift through. It’s great to know what’s out there but I like to have control ofover the noise, visually as well as auditory. Keeping it subtle is what I’d prefer.

We are always suspicious of anyone whose income and livelihood is depended on what they are saying or promoting, even if the intention is good. It’s a hard to walk the line and it’s up to each one of us to figure out, “Would this guy or gale be doing this or saying this if they weren’t being paid for it?” If the answer is yes, I figure I’m pretty close to being on the right track. But keep you eye on the track. Sometimes the track shifts further down. Circumstances change. If my gut is clear and has a good amount of healthy probiotics it’ll guide me along the right path.

Keep up the great work you doing.

]]> By: Alex Newell http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-10732 Alex Newell Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:33:12 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-10732 I used to run my own nature Cure clinic and of course sell stuff to my clients. But many people in the natural health world are suspicious about business and will suspect your motives. To enjoy all your free resources without realising that they all have to be paid for seems odd really! All the same many people have particular problems with MLM, to them it is not simply a way of distributing a product but means "scam". Fact is Kevin you can't please everybody and you just have to move forward with what seems to be positive. All The Best Alex I used to run my own nature Cure clinic and of course sell stuff to my clients.

But many people in the natural health world are suspicious about business and will suspect your motives. To enjoy all your free resources without realising that they all have to be paid for seems odd really!

All the same many people have particular problems with MLM, to them it is not simply a way of distributing a product but means “scam”.

Fact is Kevin you can’t please everybody and you just have to move forward with what seems to be positive.

All The Best

Alex

]]> By: Phil http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-10697 Phil Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:36:23 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-10697 Why is David Wolfe promoting Elements for Life? Don't the products they sell compete with David's via his website? I was not turned off by the mentioning of Elements for Life, but rather the fact that David Wolfe is promoting it. Seems odd to me. Why is David Wolfe promoting Elements for Life? Don’t the products they sell compete with David’s via his website? I was not turned off by the mentioning of Elements for Life, but rather the fact that David Wolfe is promoting it. Seems odd to me.

]]> By: marlene http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-10665 marlene Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:48:15 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-10665 I don't think there is anything wrong with promoting Elements for Life especially since it is superfoods that make us all healthier people, and besides David Wolfe is always so interesting to listen to, which reminds me to make a comment that has been bothering me for some time now. A number of episodes back a person(I won't mention names)had made some attacks at David Wolfe in her comments. It was very disheartening to read. I think if she feels that way that's her perogative but I think the majority of us really admire David Wolfe and want to learn more from him. Someone who is new to Raw Foods and the Renegade Show might read what this person wrote and come up with a bad feeling for David Wolfe and maybe even superfoods. I don't think this a message you want to portray to your readers. Maybe the comments could be looked over a little more before posting. I love your show and all the things you provide. Thank you Kevin and Ann Marie! I don’t think there is anything wrong with promoting Elements for Life especially since it is superfoods that make us all healthier people, and besides David Wolfe is always so interesting to listen to, which reminds me to make a comment that has been bothering me for some time now. A number of episodes back a person(I won’t mention names)had made some attacks at David Wolfe in her comments. It was very disheartening to read. I think if she feels that way that’s her perogative but I think the majority of us really admire David Wolfe and want to learn more from him. Someone who is new to Raw Foods and the Renegade Show might read what this person wrote and come up with a bad feeling for David Wolfe and maybe even superfoods. I don’t think this a message you want to portray to your readers. Maybe the comments could be looked over a little more before posting.

I love your show and all the things you provide. Thank you Kevin and Ann Marie!

]]> By: Joseph Diamond http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-10637 Joseph Diamond Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:03:15 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-10637 Great interview, David has been promoting EFL for a while now, among many other companies/products. David Wolfe has always given publicity to products he believes are "the best ever" or have a lot of integrity and efficacy. I think being given some pointers on products by someone who has truly tried them all and knows his stuff is a gift. People freak out, fear consciousness, whatever. Peace :-D Great interview, David has been promoting EFL for a while now, among many other companies/products. David Wolfe has always given publicity to products he believes are “the best ever” or have a lot of integrity and efficacy. I think being given some pointers on products by someone who has truly tried them all and knows his stuff is a gift. People freak out, fear consciousness, whatever. Peace :-D

]]> By: debra http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-10601 debra Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:38:50 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-10601 Kevin, As long as you're clear and honest, do your promotions when you'd like. I think you do a good job of this most of the time. When you first launched Elements of Life, it felt a bit under handed, but now that I know it's a MLM company, I can tune in or out as I please. It's hard to make a living in the service industries without providing some kind of commodity too -so I understand your desire, need, and right to supplement your income. What a treat it was to hear Patricia Bragg! Her stories made me even more grateful for the service you provide. I remember the effort it took in the 70's to ferret out accurate and credible alternative health information. Now we have so much available at the touch of our fingertips. debra Kevin,
As long as you’re clear and honest, do your promotions when you’d like. I think you do a good job of this most of the time. When you first launched Elements of Life, it felt a bit under handed, but now that I know it’s a MLM company, I can tune in or out as I please. It’s hard to make a living in the service industries without providing some kind of commodity too -so I understand your desire, need, and right to supplement your income.

What a treat it was to hear Patricia Bragg! Her stories made me even more grateful for the service you provide. I remember the effort it took in the 70′s to ferret out accurate and credible alternative health information. Now we have so much available at the touch of our fingertips.
debra

]]> By: DonnaB http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/10/09/does-muscle-fatigue-mean-i-need-more-protein#comment-10582 DonnaB Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:35:01 +0000 http://renegadehealth.com/blog/?p=257#comment-10582 THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU... MLM OR NOT!! Your info every day with the Renegade Health show and the Interviews are just what I need to hear to keep going on this road to fantastic health. When there are so few people around me who are following the same path, I need this community and appreciate all that you do. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU… MLM OR NOT!!
Your info every day with the Renegade Health show and the Interviews are just what I need to hear to keep going on this road to fantastic health. When there are so few people around me who are following the same path, I need this community and appreciate all that you do.

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