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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-34393</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

Thank you for being honest. It is brave to tell the truth about yourself as much as you do. By doing so you receive so much real love. Look at all the people who love and appreciate you just as you truly are. I feel very comfortable when I&#039;m at your web site. I know you are doing your best to give helpful advice and present many ideas not just yours or some other one sided opinion. It is obvious you have helped and inspired many people with their health. You have me!
I love you both. What you do takes a lot of effort and I feel so happy to know you receive all you need to keep on givin and livin! 
I called you once to sign up for a class but it filled up so fast. On your own you asked me questions about what I was wanting to do, and offered ideas and support for about 1/2 hour. All for free. I know the hours of free support you offer us are many, and I feel lucky to have found you. 
May we all support each other!

Love, Love, Love, 
Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Thank you for being honest. It is brave to tell the truth about yourself as much as you do. By doing so you receive so much real love. Look at all the people who love and appreciate you just as you truly are. I feel very comfortable when I&#8217;m at your web site. I know you are doing your best to give helpful advice and present many ideas not just yours or some other one sided opinion. It is obvious you have helped and inspired many people with their health. You have me!<br />
I love you both. What you do takes a lot of effort and I feel so happy to know you receive all you need to keep on givin and livin!<br />
I called you once to sign up for a class but it filled up so fast. On your own you asked me questions about what I was wanting to do, and offered ideas and support for about 1/2 hour. All for free. I know the hours of free support you offer us are many, and I feel lucky to have found you.<br />
May we all support each other!</p>
<p>Love, Love, Love,<br />
Susan</p>
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		<title>By: pavel</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-1391</link>
		<dc:creator>pavel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,
I think you might be taking Patrick&#039;s response a bit too personally.
In anyway, trying to &quot;unify&quot; everybody under some kind of &quot;banner&quot; may be just another ego tactic.
Best regards,
Pavel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,<br />
I think you might be taking Patrick&#8217;s response a bit too personally.<br />
In anyway, trying to &#8220;unify&#8221; everybody under some kind of &#8220;banner&#8221; may be just another ego tactic.<br />
Best regards,<br />
Pavel</p>
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		<title>By: Carole</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I find the whole raw foodie movement to be a bit fanatical. I&#039;m always left feeling like it&#039;s being shoved down my throat. 

I do however feel that raw foods are an important part of a balanced diet, and that supplements are needed by most people because of the problems that so many of you already cited. 

I appreciate being able to find information about various foods and supplements, and where to buy them if I want them. 

Like Robert Ringin posted about finding a solution for his prostate problems. I would think that anyone with a similar problem would like to know more. 

A couple of people have mentioned how supplements have helped them, and one in particular said that their skin looked better. I have had the same results. I tried knocking out the supplements, and realized that was not smart!

Somehow food became controversial. I guess I ask what would Jesus do? He ate beef and fish. The only thing God prohibited was pork because it was unclean - and even that was later modified. The Bible consistently teaches moderation in these areas. 

But it also teaches that if someone else beleives that it is unclean, then you should not try to persuade them away from their belief, you should respect it and not eat the food in question in their presence. 

So while I might think that the practice of burying your plate in the backyard because it had meat and milk on it is a bit over the edge - to each their own. 

The real crisis is that there are so many people that are not healthy, and we need to find a way to help them. Some will follow extremists, shock value sells - to a point. The majority aren&#039;t budging yet. 

I find Kevin&#039;s style refreshing. He delivers the information rationally, without all the screaming and outlandish stuff that so many others are doing. A lot of the others, I just have to roll my eyes and click away - they get so ridiculous. 

I consider it a great victory if we can just get people off packaged foods!

anyway - that&#039;s enough for today. 

Kevin - Thanks for delivering information in a common sense manner - 

Carole</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I find the whole raw foodie movement to be a bit fanatical. I&#8217;m always left feeling like it&#8217;s being shoved down my throat. </p>
<p>I do however feel that raw foods are an important part of a balanced diet, and that supplements are needed by most people because of the problems that so many of you already cited. </p>
<p>I appreciate being able to find information about various foods and supplements, and where to buy them if I want them. </p>
<p>Like Robert Ringin posted about finding a solution for his prostate problems. I would think that anyone with a similar problem would like to know more. </p>
<p>A couple of people have mentioned how supplements have helped them, and one in particular said that their skin looked better. I have had the same results. I tried knocking out the supplements, and realized that was not smart!</p>
<p>Somehow food became controversial. I guess I ask what would Jesus do? He ate beef and fish. The only thing God prohibited was pork because it was unclean &#8211; and even that was later modified. The Bible consistently teaches moderation in these areas. </p>
<p>But it also teaches that if someone else beleives that it is unclean, then you should not try to persuade them away from their belief, you should respect it and not eat the food in question in their presence. </p>
<p>So while I might think that the practice of burying your plate in the backyard because it had meat and milk on it is a bit over the edge &#8211; to each their own. </p>
<p>The real crisis is that there are so many people that are not healthy, and we need to find a way to help them. Some will follow extremists, shock value sells &#8211; to a point. The majority aren&#8217;t budging yet. </p>
<p>I find Kevin&#8217;s style refreshing. He delivers the information rationally, without all the screaming and outlandish stuff that so many others are doing. A lot of the others, I just have to roll my eyes and click away &#8211; they get so ridiculous. </p>
<p>I consider it a great victory if we can just get people off packaged foods!</p>
<p>anyway &#8211; that&#8217;s enough for today. </p>
<p>Kevin &#8211; Thanks for delivering information in a common sense manner &#8211; </p>
<p>Carole</p>
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		<title>By: Lana</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-1331</link>
		<dc:creator>Lana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  It took me a week but I read all these replies.  I was intrigued by what was started by one man&#039;s differing opinion.  But originally by Kevin&#039;s mature original response. I found a couple things interesting in all these posts.
1) That most people were offering their differing opinions.
2) That some were aggressive and somewhat abusive in their response
3) Yet MOST were respectful and tried their best to be kind

I believe most of us in offering our opinions at one time or another have falen a little from grace.  
What I have respected in the past couple of years of watching Kevin is his ability to see when he has yet some refining to do in his own growth and being so humble as to say it.
I also respected that Patrick also showed some humilty in his admitting that he could have said things with a different tone.
These I believe are the main things that can be learned in all this.  RESPECT, KINDNESS, PATIENCE.
I understand the point that Patrick is making yet, unfortunately there are those of us who live in climates where it is very difficult (not entirely impossible)to find or grow good produce year round.  Then, we have to make an educated decision as to where and how we will keep the proper nutrients in our diets.
This is something that has plagued me for the past couple of years to the point that my health has taken a backward turn. So anytime that I can get reliable opinions, such as Kevin&#039;s original blog that started this whole thing, I appreciate it and with a sound mind am able to decide wether or not to impliment any or all of the advice into my life.
Several times in the reading Kevin&#039;s replies I have thought, &quot;this is someone I would like as a friend&quot;  I don&#039;t think that way very freely.  
One of those times was his response to a question about how to eat while vacationing or eating out with friends. His balance, honesty and candor was heart-warming and empowering for me.  
This is the same balance I find in people like John Robbins. Which is why I can read information they give and feel free to act on it or not act on it without any guilt or defense. Yet I never question their honesty and credibilty.
For that I thank them.
With all respect and sincerity,
Lana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  It took me a week but I read all these replies.  I was intrigued by what was started by one man&#8217;s differing opinion.  But originally by Kevin&#8217;s mature original response. I found a couple things interesting in all these posts.<br />
1) That most people were offering their differing opinions.<br />
2) That some were aggressive and somewhat abusive in their response<br />
3) Yet MOST were respectful and tried their best to be kind</p>
<p>I believe most of us in offering our opinions at one time or another have falen a little from grace.<br />
What I have respected in the past couple of years of watching Kevin is his ability to see when he has yet some refining to do in his own growth and being so humble as to say it.<br />
I also respected that Patrick also showed some humilty in his admitting that he could have said things with a different tone.<br />
These I believe are the main things that can be learned in all this.  RESPECT, KINDNESS, PATIENCE.<br />
I understand the point that Patrick is making yet, unfortunately there are those of us who live in climates where it is very difficult (not entirely impossible)to find or grow good produce year round.  Then, we have to make an educated decision as to where and how we will keep the proper nutrients in our diets.<br />
This is something that has plagued me for the past couple of years to the point that my health has taken a backward turn. So anytime that I can get reliable opinions, such as Kevin&#8217;s original blog that started this whole thing, I appreciate it and with a sound mind am able to decide wether or not to impliment any or all of the advice into my life.<br />
Several times in the reading Kevin&#8217;s replies I have thought, &#8220;this is someone I would like as a friend&#8221;  I don&#8217;t think that way very freely.<br />
One of those times was his response to a question about how to eat while vacationing or eating out with friends. His balance, honesty and candor was heart-warming and empowering for me.<br />
This is the same balance I find in people like John Robbins. Which is why I can read information they give and feel free to act on it or not act on it without any guilt or defense. Yet I never question their honesty and credibilty.<br />
For that I thank them.<br />
With all respect and sincerity,<br />
Lana</p>
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		<title>By: Health1</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>Health1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What people refer to be a portrayal of a &#039;GURU&#039; is in fact called a &#039;BIO&#039; or &#039;CV&#039;. We each have one.

Blessings

Dr. Trudy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people refer to be a portrayal of a &#8216;GURU&#8217; is in fact called a &#8216;BIO&#8217; or &#8216;CV&#8217;. We each have one.</p>
<p>Blessings</p>
<p>Dr. Trudy</p>
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		<title>By: Affiliate Advice</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Affiliate Advice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

That&#039;s about all I have to say about this post.  It&#039;s fascinating that even though affiliate marketing is a legitimate business, so many people can be angry about being referred to another person&#039;s product.

We&#039;re all adults. Whether you&#039;re in the natural health field buying supplements or garlic, or in insurance buying Identity Theft Protection, or traveling around the world buuying calling cards, it&#039;s always up to you to decide if the person you&#039;re taking the advice or referral from is the person who you should be trusting.  

And, it&#039;s important to remember that people make mistakes.  People can make mistakes in what they refer you to.  

Kevin, I&#039;m sure you do an extremely thorough job before sending someone along to a product, but even you could make a mistake in what you refer someone to.  (I&#039;m not saying you ever have, I&#039;m just saying that it&#039;s possible, and people need to understand that.)

To those who are complaining about affiliate links... stop.  It&#039;s like saying that ABC, NBC, or CBS are wrong for running advertisements on their stations for products that are endorsed by celebrities (or not even endorsed by celebrities) because they&#039;re forcing you to buy their products... 

When you&#039;re looking at something online, use the same judgement you would as anywhere else.  And if you don&#039;t know whether something is good for you or not, do what you should always do anyway, and get a second opinion.

People always make decisions based on the information or feelings they have at the moment of purchase.  If your feelings are somehow being influenced by someone&#039;s compelling referral, it&#039;s your job to be aware enough of what&#039;s happening to know that you should do a little more research.

Kevin, thanks for doing all the amazing things you do.

I know you&#039;re not a &quot;guru&quot;, but you&#039;ve found a way to serve the many, and service to many leads to greatness.

Jonathan
www.affiliateadvice.us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about all I have to say about this post.  It&#8217;s fascinating that even though affiliate marketing is a legitimate business, so many people can be angry about being referred to another person&#8217;s product.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all adults. Whether you&#8217;re in the natural health field buying supplements or garlic, or in insurance buying Identity Theft Protection, or traveling around the world buuying calling cards, it&#8217;s always up to you to decide if the person you&#8217;re taking the advice or referral from is the person who you should be trusting.  </p>
<p>And, it&#8217;s important to remember that people make mistakes.  People can make mistakes in what they refer you to.  </p>
<p>Kevin, I&#8217;m sure you do an extremely thorough job before sending someone along to a product, but even you could make a mistake in what you refer someone to.  (I&#8217;m not saying you ever have, I&#8217;m just saying that it&#8217;s possible, and people need to understand that.)</p>
<p>To those who are complaining about affiliate links&#8230; stop.  It&#8217;s like saying that ABC, NBC, or CBS are wrong for running advertisements on their stations for products that are endorsed by celebrities (or not even endorsed by celebrities) because they&#8217;re forcing you to buy their products&#8230; </p>
<p>When you&#8217;re looking at something online, use the same judgement you would as anywhere else.  And if you don&#8217;t know whether something is good for you or not, do what you should always do anyway, and get a second opinion.</p>
<p>People always make decisions based on the information or feelings they have at the moment of purchase.  If your feelings are somehow being influenced by someone&#8217;s compelling referral, it&#8217;s your job to be aware enough of what&#8217;s happening to know that you should do a little more research.</p>
<p>Kevin, thanks for doing all the amazing things you do.</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re not a &#8220;guru&#8221;, but you&#8217;ve found a way to serve the many, and service to many leads to greatness.</p>
<p>Jonathan<br />
<a href="http://www.affiliateadvice.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.affiliateadvice.us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Char</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>Char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many opinions here, just as many facts. Bottom line is: What works for you? We all have varied needs and desires. I like the SAD (standard American diet)comment - THAT is the real reason Americans are in the health predicament we are in now and have the need to search for anything will make us feel better, good and bad supplements included. 

I was so pleased to actually hear 2 politicians in one of the debates answer the &quot;health care crisis&quot; question with the (approximate) answer that &quot;Americans need to change their lifestyles, begin eating healthier, and become more active so that we don&#039;t get to the point of poor health in the first place.&quot; What a breath of fresh air from all the insurance/pharmaceutical/hospital reform.

Sadly, what sort of major revolution would have to take place for this to happen? It was probably just political rhetoric when you begin to consider the ramifications of how large of an impact would occur if Americans truly changed their diets. If you want to talk about making money, ask the producers of the pharmaceuticals/supplements who also produce the antibiotics and hormones which are fed to the cattle/pigs/chickens/farm raised fish/etc to change their way of thinking and promote whole foods instead. Ask the corn farmers who grow corn for cows to eat (and make sick so they need the antibiotics)to stop growing corn for livestock and grow a crop for the health of humans. All of this is what makes Americans sick so that they need the supplements and drugs. I can&#039;t begin to imagine the economic impact of this sort of revolution, can you?

As for eating, we are all entitled to what makes us feel great. Raw or cooked, it&#039;s not all black and white. Read this recent discovery about broccoli:
&quot;...University of Illinois researcher Elizabeth Jeffery has learned how to maximize
the cancer-fighting power of broccoli. It involves heating broccoli just enough
to eliminate a sulfur-grabbing protein, but not enough to stop the plant from
releasing an important cancer- fighting compound called sulforaphane.The discovery of this sulfur-grabbing protein in the Jeffery lab makes it possible to maximize the amount of the anticarcinogen sulforaphane in broccoli.

&quot;As scientists, we learned that sulforaphane is maximized when broccoli has been
heated 10 minutes at 140 degrees Fahrenheit,&quot; said Jeffery. &quot;For the consumer,
who cannot readily hold the temperature as low as 140 degrees, that means the
best way to prepare broccoli is to steam it lightly about 3 or 4 minutes--until
the broccoli is tough- tender.

Jeffery&#039;s research will be published in an upcoming issue of Phytochemistry. She
is a professor in the Department of Food Science and Human Nutrition at the U of
I.&quot;



I too am frustrated with being inundated with information overload. We know so little and can learn so much more. Kevin is right, we should be a team. We are more knowledgeable about detrimental diets and are just beginning to understand what constitutes a beneficial diet. It is a journey. If supplements help you take them. If you feel great without them, don&#039;t take them. The most important thing we can do is continue to share the knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many opinions here, just as many facts. Bottom line is: What works for you? We all have varied needs and desires. I like the SAD (standard American diet)comment &#8211; THAT is the real reason Americans are in the health predicament we are in now and have the need to search for anything will make us feel better, good and bad supplements included. </p>
<p>I was so pleased to actually hear 2 politicians in one of the debates answer the &#8220;health care crisis&#8221; question with the (approximate) answer that &#8220;Americans need to change their lifestyles, begin eating healthier, and become more active so that we don&#8217;t get to the point of poor health in the first place.&#8221; What a breath of fresh air from all the insurance/pharmaceutical/hospital reform.</p>
<p>Sadly, what sort of major revolution would have to take place for this to happen? It was probably just political rhetoric when you begin to consider the ramifications of how large of an impact would occur if Americans truly changed their diets. If you want to talk about making money, ask the producers of the pharmaceuticals/supplements who also produce the antibiotics and hormones which are fed to the cattle/pigs/chickens/farm raised fish/etc to change their way of thinking and promote whole foods instead. Ask the corn farmers who grow corn for cows to eat (and make sick so they need the antibiotics)to stop growing corn for livestock and grow a crop for the health of humans. All of this is what makes Americans sick so that they need the supplements and drugs. I can&#8217;t begin to imagine the economic impact of this sort of revolution, can you?</p>
<p>As for eating, we are all entitled to what makes us feel great. Raw or cooked, it&#8217;s not all black and white. Read this recent discovery about broccoli:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;University of Illinois researcher Elizabeth Jeffery has learned how to maximize<br />
the cancer-fighting power of broccoli. It involves heating broccoli just enough<br />
to eliminate a sulfur-grabbing protein, but not enough to stop the plant from<br />
releasing an important cancer- fighting compound called sulforaphane.The discovery of this sulfur-grabbing protein in the Jeffery lab makes it possible to maximize the amount of the anticarcinogen sulforaphane in broccoli.</p>
<p>&#8220;As scientists, we learned that sulforaphane is maximized when broccoli has been<br />
heated 10 minutes at 140 degrees Fahrenheit,&#8221; said Jeffery. &#8220;For the consumer,<br />
who cannot readily hold the temperature as low as 140 degrees, that means the<br />
best way to prepare broccoli is to steam it lightly about 3 or 4 minutes&#8211;until<br />
the broccoli is tough- tender.</p>
<p>Jeffery&#8217;s research will be published in an upcoming issue of Phytochemistry. She<br />
is a professor in the Department of Food Science and Human Nutrition at the U of<br />
I.&#8221;</p>
<p>I too am frustrated with being inundated with information overload. We know so little and can learn so much more. Kevin is right, we should be a team. We are more knowledgeable about detrimental diets and are just beginning to understand what constitutes a beneficial diet. It is a journey. If supplements help you take them. If you feel great without them, don&#8217;t take them. The most important thing we can do is continue to share the knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: peter from france</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-1291</link>
		<dc:creator>peter from france</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Kevin for sharing Patrick&#039;s latest superb post. Thank you for all the value information and links.
My believe is that the best to do, for anybody who feel, or believe, or think and is sure that he&#039;s missing some element of his needs, is to go closer to the source. It is a source of aboundance. Let us achieve the shape where we are able to use it well.

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Kevin for sharing Patrick&#8217;s latest superb post. Thank you for all the value information and links.<br />
My believe is that the best to do, for anybody who feel, or believe, or think and is sure that he&#8217;s missing some element of his needs, is to go closer to the source. It is a source of aboundance. Let us achieve the shape where we are able to use it well.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Raw Chef Dan</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-1290</link>
		<dc:creator>Raw Chef Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off I think that an email like this often comes from a heated moment and was really not meant as intently as most of these post imply. However, regardless of passion and or intent it has prompted quit a response to a long awaiting issue. And I’m not talking about supplements. I am talking about the cut throat battle of ego and recognition in the raw food community. I have started and maintained now for eight years the first successful and longest running raw food restaurant in the history of planet earth yet I don’t have any books out, claim to be a guru of any sort or post $10,000 articles in LA Times or NY Times on how great I am like many of the raw eateries that came in my wake. You see my website www.rawchefdan.com and my restaurant, Quintessence are not about me or the restaurant. It is about sharing the good will, good karma, good news and good food available to us if we choose to eat better and be healthier. Most of the other raw restaurants are not 100% organic or even hold true to the guides of raw food nutrition. It is usually a chef or a group of people who want the recognition they think a restaurant will bring them. Just the same as I have posted in my blog many times the fact that many of the new “gurus and teachers” popping up have spent a week at Ann Wigmore and are now writing books and teaching “certification” courses. 
If you search out those who really know what they are talking about and have the years of study and knowledge to back them up you will find they do not call themselves gurus. These people also do not find good affiliate programs and then promote whatever that company sells. In most cases a health consultant or a raw chef like me will discover things that have worked very well for them and sought out an affiliate program or distributorship with those products. I have been to many of the alternative health trade shows like the New Life Expo and was attracted by so many people with there multilevel marketed products it make me feel like the intention behind the product has been compromised. I felt sticky and gooey when I left and went straight home to take a shower. Needless to say I don’t go to the expose anymore. Many websites I feel are the same. Very few raw food or living food sites are created to help a person with support and guidance in their time of discovery and transition. Most are product sites with the only free information crafted to sell their products. I am not saying there isn’t a need for such sights and if I need macca powder then hey great for maccaweb.com or Naturalzing.com. But what I love about Kevin (and my site of course) is it is set up to provide people with support; real practical news, information and in my case anyway instruction. In our own experience there is now way for us to be completely unbiased because what we find works for us or what we discover that is good we like to share. That is really where most true alternative health teachers and consultants come from; “Hey I had great luck with these pro-biotic and I want to turn you on to it.”  If you want to know who you should listen too and trust I suggest Kevin’s teleseminars as these are the cream of the crop. Gabriel Cousins has had a real live working clinic treating thousands of real live patients for decades getting real life results. Doug Gram, Nomi Shannon, David Wolf (a bit of a salesman but incredibly knowledgeable) do let that get away from you, Yashpaul, Viktorus Kulvinskas, Dr Fred Bisci… Go with the greats, the ones that have been around for 10yrs plus and you will not be swindled. And if they are selling a supplement it is because they have found that it works for the application in which they offer it to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off I think that an email like this often comes from a heated moment and was really not meant as intently as most of these post imply. However, regardless of passion and or intent it has prompted quit a response to a long awaiting issue. And I’m not talking about supplements. I am talking about the cut throat battle of ego and recognition in the raw food community. I have started and maintained now for eight years the first successful and longest running raw food restaurant in the history of planet earth yet I don’t have any books out, claim to be a guru of any sort or post $10,000 articles in LA Times or NY Times on how great I am like many of the raw eateries that came in my wake. You see my website <a href="http://www.rawchefdan.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawchefdan.com</a> and my restaurant, Quintessence are not about me or the restaurant. It is about sharing the good will, good karma, good news and good food available to us if we choose to eat better and be healthier. Most of the other raw restaurants are not 100% organic or even hold true to the guides of raw food nutrition. It is usually a chef or a group of people who want the recognition they think a restaurant will bring them. Just the same as I have posted in my blog many times the fact that many of the new “gurus and teachers” popping up have spent a week at Ann Wigmore and are now writing books and teaching “certification” courses.<br />
If you search out those who really know what they are talking about and have the years of study and knowledge to back them up you will find they do not call themselves gurus. These people also do not find good affiliate programs and then promote whatever that company sells. In most cases a health consultant or a raw chef like me will discover things that have worked very well for them and sought out an affiliate program or distributorship with those products. I have been to many of the alternative health trade shows like the New Life Expo and was attracted by so many people with there multilevel marketed products it make me feel like the intention behind the product has been compromised. I felt sticky and gooey when I left and went straight home to take a shower. Needless to say I don’t go to the expose anymore. Many websites I feel are the same. Very few raw food or living food sites are created to help a person with support and guidance in their time of discovery and transition. Most are product sites with the only free information crafted to sell their products. I am not saying there isn’t a need for such sights and if I need macca powder then hey great for maccaweb.com or Naturalzing.com. But what I love about Kevin (and my site of course) is it is set up to provide people with support; real practical news, information and in my case anyway instruction. In our own experience there is now way for us to be completely unbiased because what we find works for us or what we discover that is good we like to share. That is really where most true alternative health teachers and consultants come from; “Hey I had great luck with these pro-biotic and I want to turn you on to it.”  If you want to know who you should listen too and trust I suggest Kevin’s teleseminars as these are the cream of the crop. Gabriel Cousins has had a real live working clinic treating thousands of real live patients for decades getting real life results. Doug Gram, Nomi Shannon, David Wolf (a bit of a salesman but incredibly knowledgeable) do let that get away from you, Yashpaul, Viktorus Kulvinskas, Dr Fred Bisci… Go with the greats, the ones that have been around for 10yrs plus and you will not be swindled. And if they are selling a supplement it is because they have found that it works for the application in which they offer it to you.</p>
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		<title>By: peter from france</title>
		<link>http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/01/06/a-call-to-natural-health-advocates/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>peter from france</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Kevin for sharing Patrick&#039;s latest superb post. Thank you for providing value informations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Kevin for sharing Patrick&#8217;s latest superb post. Thank you for providing value informations.</p>
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