He used a combination of wild picked greens (malva, fillaree, lambs quarter, etc) that grow freely in southern California along with some pineapple juice, seeds and dates. He used it to cure serious diseases like TB, cancer, heart disease etc. He provided his Green Drink freely as a service to humanity.

Unlike David Wolfe, Boutenkos, your beloved dr Graham, the old raw foodists had day jobs to support themselves and taught and shared raw wisdom freely.

Raw is now indeed a business, not a calling. Its interesting to me that everything involving raw foods, raw nutrition, raw education, raw conventions, raw socializing always starts and ends on the transaction of money. I suppose only the well heeled should know about raw or have access to it.

I grew up around raw foodists from the old school. One old rawfooder who taught me was a student of Arnold Ehret. He was a brilliant man and would never stoop to squeeze a dime out of his raw knowledge.

As far as the high fat raw vs no fat raw, here is the scoop. A long term rawist will go thru phases of eating. Sometimes they will gravitate to raw fat foods, other times not.

Stay away from raw fat for years and watch your face and body grow lined, dry, haggardly before your time. Watch your muscles sag, your sex life go whither, and general early senility before your time.

Eat too much raw fat and clog your liver, overwork your gall bladder, congest your system.

Balance is the word.

Does anybody know what happened to Steve Arlin? He and Wolfe no longer seem to be working together. Natures First law has been changed and only Wolfe remains.

What reason are you telling yourself is why can’t you eat celery while running? How much do you think you need for adequate replacement?

You aren’t giving yourself the sodium your body uses effectively and efficiently by consuming sea salt in the energy bites anyway. You’re poisoning your body, therefor making it work harder. Does that make sense?

Sleep more… energy is from sleep. Fuel is from food… think of your car. The gas tank is different from the engine. So celery is somewhat inconvenient as a runner, it sounds but I’m sure you could figure something out if it resonated with you. Why not try it as an experiment? Btw, Dr. Doug makes an electrolyte replacement drink by blending bananas and celery… thin it to your preference with water. Tomatoes are a source of sodium as well. Blend some tomatos and celery for a chunky soup or smoother depending on your preference or if it needs to be thinner and in a bottle for your convenience as a drink during your runs.

Another question for you.. you mention when you cut your protein down, you’re a mess. Are you cutting your fat down too? How are you figuring all this out? Are you using Nutridiary? Are you just guessingor do you know the values? I’m just asking because this has been so easy once I learned the assigned carb/protien/fat ratios in food and began eating this way. I’m sure it would get easier for you too if you take the time to learn it.

Have you read his 80-10-10 book in entirety? Or perhaps his Maximum Athletic Performance Book would be better for you. You may not be able to hear all the messages from your body if some of the messages are kept quiet by those (addictive like salt) that may be screaming. Even with more muscle mass and energy expenditure, your only difference would be your calorie intake amount, not the proportions of carb/protein/fat that they are divided into. The ratio would still be a minimum of 80% from carbs, predominated by fruits and greens, an outside maximum of 10% from fat and 10% from protein…whether you consume 1000, 3000 or 5000 calories.

Have you considered trying it as an experiment? Then perhaps you’ll be able to listen to your body even better. You’re in a relationship with food just like you are with a romantic partner. How long would you give a relationship to see if it would work for you? 6 months? A year? Two? You’ll figure it out and your body’s response & performance will go through the roof!

I also take issue with the big business part of repeat sales and those with repeat products like supplements, which are the most highly refined of all “foods” and stimulants such as cacao. While ALL of us must earn a living, I totally respect selling INFORMATION, particularly like Dr. Doug Graham does. It’s worth it to me to pay him money, with gratitude, that he’s done the work that I couldn’t or wouldn’t do.

He took the time and effort to learn & research the science and has translated or articulated it in a way that has influenced my choices regarding my life and health, without which, I would have likely continued down the “If it’s raw, it’s ok” mindset. For me, the information is priceless and I do not begrudge him, a provider of information, his living.

I feel it is my job to be present & open enough to see if it makes sense or to do homework to assess the validity. Dr. Graham documents and provides the sources where he got his information. He also happens to look physically fantastic and performs overall like no other person I’ve seen…at any age, raw food or not!

I attended his most recent Health & Fitness Week in Washington state. The cost for a person attending that week MAY touch on the value of the information contained in his new 80-10-10 book when results from the choice to apply the info influences health so dramatically, in all ways positive: mentally, physically, spiritually and emotionally.

Btw.. Has anyone heard why he isn’t going to be at the Raw Spirit Festival in Arizona Oct 12-14? Dr. Graham’s public comment on this could be quite valuable, as his absence is a huge loss to those attending the event. They are likely looking and trusting to find people with a higher minds and agendas than just profit at any cost. (Reminds me of Big Pharma)

That seems to be one of those things Peter’s not happy with and that we can all relate to.. just business without much regard for a complete spectrum of beliefs or information being available or provided. My observation is that the category of the Natural Hygiene approach must threaten some in the raw food “establishment.” Why? Perhaps his lack of selling repeat products/supplements threatens those whose livelihoods depend on them.

Food for thought, perhaps.

Grateful to have been a part of the Raw Summit – thank you, Kevin!

So many of the sentiments that have been so eloquently lodged up to now both for the raw food benefits as well as “the-verdict-is-still-out” questioners as to the efficacy of such a lifestyle resonate with me as well…that’s why I don’t believe I could be 100% anything at any given time in my life – and I don’t believe the benefits have to be bestowed in those concomitant ratios, because so many factors as “intention” have to come into play as was brought out. Although, empirical proof is just that; results! So the key guideline for myself is how it affects me, my body, my mind, my soul!

My own experience has been coming off the typical SAD lifestyle by experimenting a few years with my nutrition, cleansing as well as detoxing off all medications after going to a holistic school, Institute for Integrated Nutrition, in NYC…with wanting to learn to be proactive and change and improve my own health and to share my knowledge with my loved ones!

I have lived my own shift in previous dogma and began my own paradigm shift at this phase of my life with reading, reading and did I say “reading” books on health in every shape and form! I am a person who loves adventure, loves to try anything once! I welcome change! I knew the pharmaceutical way was not for me any longer, the SAD pyramid was pathetically causing my health to deteriorate and I wanted to take control of my own health for the rest of the remainder of my life and not leave it in the hands of allopathic doctors.

First and foremost, I truly tried to listen to what MY body was telling me; what seemed to give me energy, lightness, less gas, better skin, better sleep, better blood pressure, better cholesterol, less pain in joints, better mood – what was better treatment for animals – what was better for the environment – what gives me joy, serenity and fulfillment!

At 51 it seems to be more and more live/raw food that has gotten me into the best shape physically, mentally and spiritually. Isn’t that what everyone is looking for; to be the best they can be to themselves and others? For everyone is truly unique – whether it’s their body or their minds – and they have to find what works for them on so many levels. Some have to follow something 100 % because there is no room for anything other than black or white, while for others it’s 50/50; whether it’s raw or cooked, vegetarian or meat-eaters. Who is to really say what is best, but them? Haven’t we learned that from the medical field…isn’t that why they call it the “medical practice”??? We all have to practice on ourselves to see what works – whether it’s as simple as allergies that affect our choices or scientific empirical proof or one’s state of mind.

That’s the beauty of the myriad of choices in the universe – you try ‘em out and see what fits your lifestyle. I believe it’s as simple as that. I’m grateful in my lifetime we have such freedom to choose a little from so many columns, from so many experts, from so many walks of life. It’s blissful, as Happy says!!!

While I cherished every lecturer during the Raw Summits, I loved Brendan’s zest for excellence in so many arenas of his life and how he shared it with us all ( went right to his site and bought his book – love his recipes). I actually checked out everyone’s site and bought some books from most everyone! Their own results empowered me to continue making my own results. I loved how I took voluminous notes and gleaned glorious tidbits from each and every one who shared their knowledge with me and who has made me a better person simply by listening to them and implementing my own experiences b/c of what they shared with me.

I learned I’m a work in progress….it’s a fabulous journey! ~ Jean

Char…. juice your celery and drink it while you run…you can also dilute it with filtered water if you like.